Speaker 0
Scene. Aaron enters takeover team HQ. Speaker 1
What's up, takeover team? It's that time again. Allen Tan, summer vacay, double the weeks, double the takeover team. Oh, man. I'm so pumped. Speaker 2
Hey, Aaron. That was cool. Speaker 1
What why so glum, chums? You two got your brave faces on. Come on, guys. We got this. Wait. Wait. Is is Casey not here? Woah. She's here alright. Well, then let's get going, guys. We have a show to brainstorm. Speaker 0
Content is apparently covered. Casey has, and I quote, the greatest idea, guys. Like, this could be the most epic takeover team ever. This is gonna be our legacy, our magnum opus, our masterpiece, end quote. Speaker 1
That that sounds, interesting. Speaker 2
It's it's it's a big swing. It's, pretty ambitious. It's, awesome. Speaker 0
It's not awesome. It's completely insane. Speaker 2
Yeah. It's kinda freaking nuts. Speaker 1
Well, don't leave me hanging. What is Speaker 3
Oh my god. Oh my god. Did I hear Erin? Is Erin here? Yay. She's here. I just gotta tell you something. Can I speak for a minute? Can I speak for a minute? Did I hear did they tell you? Okay. Did they tell you? Isn't it the most amazing idea ever? And Speaker 1
they, mentioned that you had a plan that could really be something Speaker 0
Figured we'd let you lay that brilliance on her there, big shoots. Speaker 3
Guys, just wanna say a few words now. Just wanna say a few words here. Okay? We are currently reviewing season three of Shorzy. Right? So you know what I realized? Nobody has ever taken a look at how we got Shorzy, the character from Letterkenny, to Shorzy, the character from Shorzy. And I could see what you're thinking. Speaker 4
Casey, you're talking like they're two different characters. Speaker 0
That's because they are. They are. There it is. Speaker 1
Hey. So it kinda like a top ten or best of Shorzy and Letterkenny. Speaker 3
Erin, you sweet, sweet, beautiful lady. I love you. Speaker 1
Of course. She's squeezing my cheeks. Speaker 3
Did you think the top ten was gonna cut it? No freaking way. But this isn't gonna be a best of Shorzy and Letterkenny either. It's going to be in all of Shorzy and Letterkenny. Every single line, every scene, every single Speaker 0
moment. All all of them? Speaker 3
Every single one. You can see it, can't you? I mean, I know. I know. The scope and the wonder kinda leaves you at a loss for words, but, wow, Speaker 1
I see. But who really wants to keep these episodes clocking at, like, ninety minutes. We have got two weeks, baby. Speaker 3
Erin. Erin. Are you my sister from another mister? Speaker 1
Yes. Casey, I'm your sister. But will you go to Speaker 0
the wall for me, guys? Speaker 2
Oh, no. We've already been here. Speaker 0
Yeah. How do you think she got us? Speaker 1
Yeah, Casey. I'll go to the wall for you. Speaker 3
Good. Because we're fucking going. Hell yeah. Fuck yeah. Speaker 6
That fresh produce stand there, that's a beauty. Speaker 1
What do you listen to? Speaker 2
My favorite murder podcast. Jagger and Jordan's podcast. Speaker 6
The produce stand. Speaker 3
This is The Produce Stand, your favorite source for everything in the verse. I'm KCd, your takeover host, and the rest of the takeover team is mic'd out and ready to set the fucking tone. And just like Dolo, we are feeling blessed to once again be taking over the Produce Stand podcast with a special two part tribute to every mom's favorite slut, Shorzy. So give it up for the TPS takeover team, Aaron, Trace, and Awesome. Speaker 6
Who wants to set the tone, boys? He's gonna fucking set it. Yeah. Woah. This team will never lose again. Speaker 3
Welcome back, takeover team. I'm really not sure how we can follow-up an episode kickoff that's better than Tanya put up last week. You know what I'm saying? Speaker 3
That was nuts. When she asked for a Kleenex last week, I was dead. I was I was done. She's still there. Speaker 1
Super. How about you? Yeah. Speaker 3
I'm great. I'm ready for this. Are you ready? Are you ready? Speaker 2
George you the shit out of this. Speaker 3
In the room oh, we have people in the room because we're not live streaming, so we had to do a little jiggering. We've got Casey, Gord, Jeff, Michelle, and Zach. So psyched you guys are here. Thank you for joining us. Let's just get right to it. Tonight's order is Aaron, awesome, Trace, and then me. Oh my gosh. There's so many sound bites. Last week, Alan and the gang recapped Shorze season three episode five of Sue Hunt, and that episode was another unicorn. And according to the scientific Twitter poll, these are old scores, but whatever. I'm not Al. Around seventy three percent of us agreed that the episode was afresh, and maybe twenty six percent of us gave it a clearance. But, again, no composts were given. This season will never lose again. This week, we're gonna take you on what I can only call a labor of love. It's a look at the evolution of Shorzy, the character of Shorzy in Letterkenny, specifically. So, Erin? Yeah. Are you ready? Speaker 1
Yeah. I'm I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm good. Speaker 3
Oh, wait. What we're we have to do how are you now? See, you know what? How because he's changed it all to Shoresy theme stuff. Mhmm. There's no how are you now, and that's messing me. That's messing me up completely. It's Al's problem. So okay. Aaron, how are you now? Speaker 0
Good. Just fucking going. Damn. Speaker 1
I'm ready. Ready, coach. Speaker 3
This is horrible. Speaker 1
It's all good. It's all good. Speaker 2
We've never driven this car before. Speaker 1
Never. Success. I'm great. I'm I'm coming off of some massive high of, great New York City trip. Saw some great Broadway shows, took the kids to see a museum, walked, you know, from Hudson Yards to wherever the hell I went. I can't even think of where it was. Chelsea Market. It was good. It was just good time. It was just, insanely busy, and I took a day to recover, and I'm ready to go. I haven't seen Shorzy in months, but we'll see how this goes. Have Speaker 0
you seen season three? Speaker 1
I I dabbled. Yes. I've seen season three. We're good. You called us the right person today, Casey. Speaker 5
I have no doubt that you Speaker 3
are the perfect person for this because you've seen Letterkenny. This is that Speaker 3
Shorzy in Letterkenny Yes. As I said earlier. I'm in. Cool. Alright. Awesome. Speaker 3
you now? Good. And you? Good. And you? Nice, dad. You have some bad talking. Speaker 0
I just make my video. Speaker 5
Yeah, you did. This is fantastic. I Speaker 1
fucking love all of this. Speaker 3
I love the Letter Speaker 5
Kenny vibes. This is amazing. Yeah. How are you just go. Speaker 0
So, as you three know, I spent all day yesterday fucking grubbing around in the dirt, trying to get my front yard into shape after our gardeners have abandoned us for the last seven months. It's fucking ridiculous. So, I spent most of the day grubbing around the dirt again, and I am sore and kind of filthy. I'm not gonna lie. Speaker 1
Oh, those are good things. Speaker 0
No. I know. I like well, I like getting your hands in dirt is good for you. Everyone should do it every once in a while. Just kinda reconnect you to the outside world and all that shit. Other than that, my in laws have been keeping me busy because he's blind, and she can't think. Speaker 5
It's that sounds like, yeah, that that sounds like Speaker 3
the beginning of, of something. Speaker 2
Country song? Maybe. Speaker 3
Oh, we'll get to country songs at the end of this. Don't you worry about that. Speaker 1
There's a Shorzy country song. I can't wait. Before we Speaker 0
trace, I just wanna point out Wait. He's not wearing his tooth. Very sexy if you trace. Speaker 5
You do know it's an audio podcast. Awesome. Speaker 0
Yeah. I know. Which is why I'm seeing somebody out loud. Speaker 3
To this tomorrow. It's gonna know what the fuck you're talking about. Oh, lord. Okay, McLean. Speaker 2
In the I'm in the process of getting that remedied. Speaker 3
Oh, okay. Well, Trace, maybe. How are you now? Let's talk about it. Speaker 3
Well done. Nope. Only took you twelve seasons. Speaker 2
Yeah. But, my week's been blissfully noneventful. It's been god awful hot for the past two weeks, and it's it's sweaty and yucky and but, otherwise, everything is going well. There's not much to report down here. God, I wish I'd continued in my streak of terrible how are you now? But, Speaker 1
It's great. I'm loving this. Speaker 2
Thanks. I'm just glad to be here and ready to talk some shortsy. Speaker 3
I'm so glad that you guys are down for this. I I really appreciate you Speaker 3
Hey, Casey. How are you now? Speaker 3
Not so bad. New? Good news? Super good. Yeah. I'm great. Yeah. I honestly I'm fantastic because I'm on hormones. So this is I've been talking about this in my personal life, Speaker 3
gonna put it out on the Internet now. I'm hitting perimenopause, and it's hilarious. I'll tell you what. Guys, I love guys. Love guys. But if you randomly broke out into uncontrollable sweats during, like, all of your big boy presentations and your CEO meetings, you would be humbled in a way that I just can't really describe to to you. Because there's nothing quite as disturbing as standing still in an air conditioning room and then just, like, dripping like Bugs Bunny or like a a Looney Tunes cartoon. So I'm I'm on hormones, and that's great because my oldest is also hormonal. And so one of us needs to to be cool. Like, he can't be hormonal while I'm hormonal. Someone will will lose a limb in the house. Yeah. So that's that's been the change the change, no pun intended, for me this yeah. Yeah. That's been the change for me this past week. Psyched to be doing this with you guys. I've been working on this for a long time. Speaker 2
That is that is a true story. That is a true story. When she first mentioned it, I thought, well, that's brilliant, but that sounds like a lot of work with folks. She's put in the work. Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So so let's just get this rig rolling. Erin, are you ready? Speaker 0
I'm fucking ready. Speaker 3
Good. Because you're going awesome. Are you ready? Speaker 0
Stay where you too. I'll come where you're at. Speaker 3
Oh, good. Because you're fucking going. Tracy, you ready? Good. Because you're fucking going. Good. Speaker 6
Because you're fucking going. Yeah. That's good on the go, boys. Speaker 3
So what is it actually that we're doing here tonight? Well, first, Casey's gonna share her screen properly because for those of you who have decided to join us tonight, this is real where the real magic is. Thanks for joining. Came up few months ago, and oh, wait a minute. I can't do two things at once. I can't read my script and edit a video. So what I did, just real real briefly so you guys know, I had started with this idea, like, just taking notes in my work notebook, because it hit me. And so there's about five or six pages in my work notebook of just Sorsie c or Letterkenny season one and, like, graphs and notes. Maybe I'll post a picture of it on the Internet if people really care. But I was watching only for Shor's Eclipse, and I honestly don't know if I got them all. This is sort of like PhD academic level character analysis. And like so many character analyses before me, if you don't agree with me or if you think, you know, this isn't cool, you could just take four to six, and we could talk about it when you're feeling better, you're able to walk. That's fine. It's gonna be similar to an episode recap. Tonight, we're gonna cover seasons one through seven. Next week, we're gonna get into seasons eight, nine, and ten. Why not eleven? Why not twelve? Well, spoiler alert, Shorzey leaves Letterkenny at the end of season ten. And, honestly, if you have to ask that, are you a question at all? Are you a fan at all? So, we're gonna get started with Shorzy season one. So I'm gonna play a few clips, and then we'll I'll stop, and we'll we'll just talk about it. We're gonna take our feelings and our thoughts, and we're gonna take them, and we're gonna talk about them. Here we go. Speaker 6
Wire number twenty two for the Speaker 1
Are we starting our feelings? Speaker 6
Death filled tornadoes. Who fucking cares? Dig deep bear down, you fucking hero. Speaker 1
So I'm feeling happy to be with everybody. Speaker 3
Nice flow, you fucking Wait. Can you not see what's Nope. Can you guys not see the video? I see it. Speaker 2
Actually, it twos, Speaker 0
hear it? Yeah. I can hear it. Speaker 3
Oh, biscuits. Erin, you can't? Speaker 1
Erin, just do just do it anyway. Speaker 3
Feelings? But, no, you have to be able to hear it. Speaker 0
Yeah. No. You're you are one of the three people who has to be able to hear and see. Speaker 3
Okay. Let's edit this again. Oh, Al, I hope you're you and Ted are laughing on your little vacation. Must be fucking nice. Speaker 0
gonna edit this, though. Right? Speaker 3
Not that part. Oh, not editing? No, Erin? Speaker 1
What? No? Okay. I'll follow along, Speaker 3
for twenty figure Speaker 1
Just get tornadoes. Speaker 6
cares? Take deep bear down, you fucking hero. You're my fucking hero, Tutu. Nice flow, you fucking donkey. Take a lap. Hey. Give your balls a tuck, you fucker. What the fuck are you looking at, Toots, That'll be sure, Zay. Let's skip like this. That's the best ass wash your life right there, boy. Good work, Shorzy. Look at the hustle on Shorzy. The best ass wash your life. Speaker 3
So so I'm I'm actually gonna stop there because those those first three clips are from season one episode four wingman Wayne. Thoughts. How does it feel seeing these hearing these again except for Aaron who's Speaker 0
not hear any of them? Speaker 5
She saw the butt. Speaker 2
And the rest doesn't matter. Speaker 0
That's the important bit. Those are some three mighty fine caduceus. Speaker 1
That's that's that's how you introduce yourself to a show, man. Jeez. Speaker 3
So the first Yeah. Go on. Speaker 0
Well, no. I just, this is a question I get on the Reddit a lot is, is that really Jared, or is that just his voice? No. That's him. That is his pasty white little Dutch boy r set for all of the world and God to see. Speaker 0
He is not using a double. Speaker 3
Yeah. Thank you, Jared. Just a few a few little notes here. He's identified his teammate in the closed captioning when he the first give your balls a tug titfucker is spoken. So then he's only con confirmed as Shorzy in the shower scene. So in this episode, we get this introduction. And it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of, like, establishment of character until you get about seventeen minutes into the episode, and then this happens. Happens. Shit. Speaker 6
We brought the fucking rocket, boys. Holy fuck, boys. Who's billing sister's a fucking rocket? She is a fucking rocket. Speaker 4
a fucking rocket in my pants. Speaker 6
Hey, dibs on digies. My boyfriend, dude, Speaker 6
the dibs? No. I dipster in warm up. You were throwing sauce at the blue line. I was dipzing diggies. Who the fuck you dip them to? A dip is a dip is a dip, buddy. Who gives a shit? Speaker 6
dip falls in the force and there's no one around to hear, is it still a dip? Well, fuck yeah, buddy. Fuck nobody. We'll give your balls a tug, you tit fuckers. Speaker 6
fucking presence. Speaker 0
The absolute panic from those two fucking fucking Speaker 1
He said the thing, though. What? Fucking whatever he said. I can't even remember Speaker 3
it now. What? Dips and dips and dips. Speaker 1
No. No. No. No. No. No. Titfucker. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And let's let's let's, celebrate the announcement of that. But, like, here's the thing, though. So he didn't know Katie. So is he, like, fresh and new to this team? Like, we're brand new. Welcome, Shorzy. Like, period. Shorzy just showed up. Right? Speaker 2
He hasn't he hasn't had the chance to, you know, irritate the fuck out of everybody just yet. Speaker 1
So he just joined the team, and it's like, hey, buddy. Who's this guy? Speaker 5
Well, I mean, the one of Speaker 0
the plot points is that Katie hasn't been to a game in, like, a while. So, I mean, they also say that about Snipes that they do know. Right? Mhmm. So Speaker 3
That's right. Yep. The other thing too, like, he he's a bit young. Speaker 0
Well, for Shorzy. Yeah. I mean Speaker 3
That's what I'm saying. Speaker 0
She's Here's a bit, though. I wanna point out. Shorzy is technically younger than Riley and Jonesy. Speaker 3
Oh, we're this is gonna be, this is gonna be a thing, isn't it? Speaker 3
madness. Means what you're saying is that that means that in Shorzy verse, that Riley and Jonesy are old farts, and they're out? Speaker 0
I'm just saying it's established in Letterkenny that Shorzy ages out of juniors after they do. Speaker 3
Okay. Well, we'll see. Speaker 6
Give your balls a tug, you Tedfucker, Shorezy. Fuck. Fuck, buddy. Speaker 6
fucking do it, no one else is going to. Ryan's on the wall, bro. Give your balls a tug, you Ted fucker. Time, Shorzy. You know, I should be mad, but I'm just sort of Speaker 6
your balls a tug of titt fucker. Not gonna misplaying with Shorzy, though, bud. Always a silver lining, buddy. Speaker 0
It's fucking embarrassing. Speaker 6
And don't misplaying for that guy, buddy. Always a silver lining, buddy. Give your balls a tug, you tit, fucker. Fucking shore does he come from? I didn't even know he was here, bro. Speaker 3
So so this is season two. So those clips that we just saw from the beginning, the first give your balls a tug, titfucker, and then the first ashwa ash wash, ass wash all the way up until oh, I'm skipping ahead. All the way up until here, that's just season one and two. That's all we see of Shorzy for two seasons. So there's not a whole lot of, like, storyline happening, but the character development is pretty clear. Speaker 1
It's got this catchphrase Yeah. Already. Speaker 3
Does anybody count it? Speaker 0
Riley and Jonesy are peering around like startled fucking, meerkats at the sound of Speaker 3
short legged voice. Speaker 1
The omnipresent, like, Speaker 0
weirdness. Seriously, they're meerkats looking for a fucking hawk. Speaker 3
Yeah. Because Riley's like, god. He's even his neck up. He's like, what He's raining it. Speaker 0
He's looking for Shorzy in the fucking rafters. Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. So some some bonus things from season one and season two. In season one episode one, Devon, when they're behind the church giving Wayne shit about being on, Grindr Speaker 3
When they're going through, like, the names. Devin calls him rear admiral, and that made me think of RA from Shorzy. So I I made a note I made a note of that. I'm sure that that's not what Devon meant. And then in Daryl's super soft birthday, there is a trivia question, answer. That's the only clue I'm gonna give. And if you're listening and you play trivia with us, you're welcome. So what do you guys think about, like, what do you guys think? It's not a lot here. What do you guys think? Speaker 2
I'm thinking that, you know, it's kind of the unseen character kinda thing towards in the beginning of the thing that sort of motifs along the line you've seen in other TV shows where what you don't see is far more interesting than what you do. They're hell bent on making give your balls a tug a titpucker a catchphrase, and they've succeeded. Mhmm. You know, time has proven that. But, Totally. Yeah. I mean, right I mean, right now, they, they're they just sort of establish it as, an antagonist to Riley and Jonesy and, you know, just some, you know, fun dribble at this point in the game. You truly see the beginnings of, what's essentially a one note character, but it's Speaker 2
You know? Who knew what was in store? Speaker 3
Alright. Should we get into season three? Do it. Speaker 3
Alright. Alright. Speaker 6
We know he was here, bro. Speaker 7
Look at this tour de force. This piece de resistance. This master piece. Speaker 3
Shorzy is doing naked upside down push ups in the shower. Multi chest Speaker 7
Every single second. That's how you get the w, boy. Speaker 6
Oh, fuck, boys. I was already down here ripping ass wash. I figured I'd rip some rep. What the fuck are you looking at, kid fucker? Give your balls a cup. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. Fight me. See what happens. Yeah. What's gonna happen, Shorzy? Three things. I hit you. You hit the pavement. Evulance hits sexy. It's the worst chirp I've ever heard in my entire life, Shorzy. That's my slow learning midnight and uncle's favorite chirp. Yeah, it's your mom's favorite chirp too, buddy. Ask her, see what happens. Yeah, what's gonna happen, Shorzy? Three things. I hit you, you hit the pavement. I fuck your mom again. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom just liked my Instagram post from two years ago in Puerto Vallarta. Tell her I'll put my swim trunks on for her anytime she likes. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. Your mom keeps trying to slip a finger in my bum, but I keep telling her I only let Jonesy's mom do that, you fucking loser. My mom would never put my finger in your bum. Pump the fucking thing. Fuck your entire fucking life, you piece of shit. Speaker 7
Oh. What are you Speaker 6
pissing so close to the urinals for, you piece of shit? This is how a real man rocks a piss. Give your balls a toss, kid fuckers. I'm coming, Shorzy. Heard the same thing from your mom last night about seven times, and that's not even my record, you fucking loser. What Speaker 5
Okay. I'm gonna stop right here. So this is Speaker 3
season three episode three of Modine's two. This is the first sets of mum chirps. Thoughts, Aaron. Speaker 1
Yes. It's just so fucking brilliant. Like, where is he getting to sit from? He just woke up and was like, oh, I'm gonna just get my arse to look like fucking mom jokes and just give them, like, that was great. Fuck your whole fucking life. What the hell? Speaker 5
Fuck your entire fucking life, you piece of shit. Speaker 1
I just can't. I love it. I mean, it's you know? And, like, we didn't know if he was telling the fucking truth at this point. Like, with, like, just saying a whole bunch of shit and peeing seven feet from the freaking urinal. Like, dude, like, what I don't know, man. And that stream just goes on. Speaker 2
I gotta go. The so so Speaker 1
so to find some man. Speaker 3
Being the the the penis holding holder in the takeover team. I don't know what I'm trying Speaker 3
You have a dick. Speaker 3
Is it possible to achieve what Shorzy has achieved in this scene? Speaker 2
Under certain circumstances, yes. Like, you, really have to go. Speaker 3
You have to have Speaker 0
in the size of a bowling ball? Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. The buildup to it will be painful. I mean but a lot of the time, alcohol is involved. And but yes. And here's here's a little behind the scenes, you know, how the sausage is made. Bad, bad pun. Sorry. Oh. And, there's probably not a guy out there that hasn't tried that. At least, you know, just most often oftentimes, I'll say, oh, yeah, man. Just wonder how poor I can piss. Speaker 2
guess I'll try it. And you do. And it's Yeah. You know, that's weird camera angle. I couldn't give you an actual distance on that, but, yeah, Speaker 1
not is measured. Please send a personal note to Casey to let us know. Speaker 3
I'm going on. You know? I don't know if you know, he's doing the push ups himself, so I'm just, you know, I'm just wondering. Speaker 2
Well, I mean, that's a that's a oh, god. I can't believe I'm discussing this. That is a Yeah. Remarkably solid holding stream all the way to the toilet. Yeah. I mean, most times most times, it's breaking up past its apex of at the arc. Speaker 1
He he's a hydrated athlete. Speaker 2
He's their hydrated athlete. He is. But, I mean yeah. I mean, it's it only has, Jesus Christ, only has so much thrust, and Speaker 2
It's the physics of rocking a piss. But, Speaker 0
It's physics. Yeah. Speaker 2
I mean, yes. We're talking Speaker 2
It's a pretty cohesive stream up about to its apex, at which point it loses velocity and cohesion, and then it just becomes a sprinkler every damn year. Speaker 5
Michelle in the chat says optimum efficient angle of forty five degrees in the arc. It's the sacred angle Speaker 3
of trajectory. What about those terms of the first She Speaker 5
said basic physics, and she spelled it f I z x, and that's how it's Speaker 3
spelling physics for the Yeah. Speaker 0
Because she's cool. Speaker 3
Yeah. Yes. Well, I mean Can confirm. Speaker 2
The chirps were I love the the fact in the chirps because in one fell swoop and and, essentially, in one scene, Shorzy goes from being, annoying prick teammate to god level chirper. Speaker 2
And we've already established that, Jonesy and Riley are sitting there, you know, and the times when they've talked to the Celestians thing, you gotta work on your chirps. You gotta work on your chirps. And they're out there, and their chirps are fine. And then but then you realize when Shorsey comes along that, oh lord. There is you know, Shorsey's playing chess while everybody's playing checkers when it comes to chirps. You know? It's just Speaker 0
Right. Or is he's playing three d chess. Speaker 2
Oh, exactly. I mean, and it's just you're like Speaker 2
first of all, they're brilliant. Second of all, they're incessant. Yeah. Mhmm. I mean, you can't come back to any of them because he's just gonna top you again, and you're it's just a verbal beatdown. And all of a sudden, Chirp Shorzy has gone from a a one note character Mhmm. To this, woah. This guy is crazy. And and at this point in the game, we have no idea if he's any fucking good at hockey. You know? Speaker 3
Yeah. But this And Speaker 1
what we also learned, like, later on, I didn't think I knew this back then when I watched Letterkenny, is how important those chirps are in hockey. Like, I I knew that there was there was chirping in baseball. I I there literally is none in swimming, that I am aware of. But, like, I know certain sports, they do that, but I I think something that I personally learned later on with hockey is that there that's a portion of, you know, having a a teammate perhaps, Maybe. Is that a is that a thing, or is that just a shortsy thing? Speaker 2
I got a question for you, Erin. Speaker 2
Knowing if you knew then what you know now, would you have brought chirping to swimming? Speaker 1
Me personally, no. Some of the gentlemen on my team, perhaps. Speaker 0
You don't chirp on Irish dance. We just threatened to kill each other. Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean, we definitely had some nicknames, dirty nicknames, but it wasn't like a it was all within, like, friendliness. So Irish dancing, Austin, tell me more. Speaker 2
Yeah. No. Because The violent cutthroat of Irish dancing. Speaker 0
Then, you're solo competing, and you don't chirp those people. You just try to set them on fire with your brain. Speaker 3
I feel like that's what Shorsey is trying to do. He's trying to set everyone else's brains on on fire. Speaker 2
Thinking about a trip, you're not thinking about a game. It's it's it's it's basic gamesmanship. I mean and Speaker 2
You know, it's like you were saying, Erin. Every you know, we've seen enough, mic'd out clips from all the different sports that, yeah, it it it occurs everywhere, and it's all a psychological gamesmanship as far as, you know, get is if someone's thinking about what you're saying, they're not thinking about the game, and that's a win. Speaker 1
Mhmm. And, Austin, to your point of, like, to his teammates, like, think about Chorsey. Maybe that's what he personally needs. We didn't know that at the time, like but does he need to be chirped in order to get his, you know, fired? Speaker 0
Get his goat up. Speaker 1
Yeah. Like so is he doing that to them so they do it back to him and fucking get him going? You know? Speaker 0
So I personally I am convinced that Shorzy is so relentless with Riley and Jonesy because he doesn't fucking respect them. They're floaters. They'll put in the effort occasionally. And when they do put in, like, the bare minimum of effort, they they do turn out to be really good hockey players, but that just pisses him off more because they don't hate losing. And Steve can't respect that. Speaker 3
See, now this is where this is where I'm gonna contend that that isn't Shorzy yet, that this might be the the Shorzy of, what's is his name? Oh god. Help me. Jared Keeson. No. No. No. That's great to help. Big Bo. This is pre no show, host Big Mo, fucking loser Shorzy. Right? Like, Shorzy beat Mo once. So I'm not saying, like, this is then, but this this era is closer to then than it is to Shorzy Shorzy. Speaker 2
We're just putting more and more time between Shorzy Letterkenny and Shorzy Shorzy. Speaker 2
I'm thinking a couple of years. Now we're, like, a full decade now in between. Speaker 3
I'm trying to I'm not measuring time. I'm measuring, like, perspective and character arc here. Like, I'm not trying to create a timeline. I'm just saying that, like, this Shorzy hasn't won. To our knowledge, he hasn't won. So who knows why he's chirping? Like, maybe he's angry because he hates to fucking lose. And this is just him being angry. Speaker 0
See, he he always hated to lose even before Moe. Right? It made him feel better. Speaker 3
He didn't have anybody to lose to before Moe because he was fat and he didn't play anything because he was wobbly. Speaker 0
Still in school, and he still got picked on. Sure. Speaker 1
He had to learn how to play hockey somewhere. Speaker 0
Yeah. So yeah. No. I think at a very fundamental level, he does not respect Riley and Jonesy because they're just there for the lifestyle, and they don't ask a shit about the game. And you can kinda see that when they play beer league later. Speaker 3
Right. But we have a whole we have a whole season of this, though, before we get to beer league where they actually do wanna win. So Speaker 3
it's it's coming. Speaker 2
What do you think about there's a base level contempt that Shorzy has for Riley and Jonesy that you see somewhat mirrored in, like, fish. Speaker 2
Like like, there is Oh. He recognizes, yes, they are talented, but they are, you're fucking up, bud. I mean think Speaker 0
of quite a lot of it that that resentment has to do with the fact that he deep down knows that they are more skilled than he is. They're more talented Speaker 1
But he's also younger in here and doesn't have that knowledge that he does with fish later on. Right? So, like, his brain is still growing. Speaker 0
Wait. No. He's he's mad that they are better than he is, and they don't even have to try. Where he tries all the fucking time. He wants it more. How dare they just fucking float through the season? Speaker 1
So let's find their mom. Speaker 3
Or maybe he just wants to get laid. Alright. Let's, Speaker 1
do we throw any love to coach even though I know this is a Shorzy thing? Speaker 3
I mean, not yet. Okay. But but that's coming too because we're gonna see, just how how lucky we all are that we get this pairing of coach kind of leading into Letterkenny. I mean, leading into Shorzy. Woah. Speaker 6
Yeah. King co coilers, boys. Speaker 7
King Kong coilers, boys. Speaker 6
Fuck my entire fucking life. A few titfuckers light a match and hear the whole fucking barn's going up. Give your balls a tug. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. Fight me. See what happens. Yeah? It's gonna happen, Shorzy. Three things. I hit you, you hit the pavement, I jerk off on your driver's side door handle. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Tell your mom to top up the cell phone she bought me so I can FaceTime her late night. We thought tummy stick hedgehogs were extinct, boys. Shave your fucking junk hair, boys. Disgusting, boys. And Shorzy is the guiltiest of them all. First fine goes to Shorzy. Fuck your entire fucking life, bud. Now on. Twenty dollar fine every game in praccy till she shaved down to the wood. As bald as the teenage mutant ninja turtle, Shorzy. Tip fuckers. Greatest all around player in the history of the show, mister hockey. Grits is the best player in the history of the show. Give your balls a toss. Grets is the best. Didn't mean any disrespect to ninety nine. We said, Gordie Howe was the best all around player. Grettes Holzer shares sixty one records in the show, you piece of shit. Don't nickel and dime the great one. What? Mister Hockey? Suck my mister cocky, you fucking loser. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. There's more important things like this team coming together. Speaker 0
That's their dad. Right. Speaker 6
Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Tell your mom my dream, the bank account she set up for me. Top it up so I can get some fucking KFC. Fuck Speaker 6
Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom loves butt play like I love Haagen Dazs. Let's get some fucking ice cream. Boys. Speaker 3
Okay. So I'm gonna make the argument here, Awesome, that the boys are more concerned about winning in this moment than Shorezy is. That the boys are trying to get focused and get the team winning, and Shorezy's fucking with them Speaker 0
But he's totally sabotaging them because he hates them. Speaker 3
Right. Right. And and if you're taking notes, there are some things that we learned about Shorzy. He has a huge fucking bush. Speaker 0
Yep. He's a man. Speaker 1
Does he just hate them, or is he not good enough yet? I mean, we touched on it a little bit. Speaker 1
Like, that dude is pissed off that they're telling him what the fuck to do. And he's like, no. I'm just gonna try and chirp you to make you feel bad about yourself, like, whether like, while actual Shorzy in his brain is like, I gotta fuck I gotta show up, man. I'm not not doing my job here. I don't know. When, like, when does that when does that when does that hit? Speaker 3
That's right. Gord is saying good night good night, Gord, but I like what he dropped in the chat. Gord said, I don't think there is character continuity. I think Jared reinvented the character for the next series. Gord, I'm sorry you're going to bed, but when you listen to the rest of the podcast, you might you might see things just a little differently. I don't know. But good night, Gord. Yeah. So he's wearing shoes in the toilet too. Yeah. I want I just wanna point that out. He's got his shoes on. So this is clearly a different Shorzy. This is this is not Shorzy Shorzy. This is a different Shorzy because the bathroom shoes. Trace, what do you think about all this? Speaker 1
Or do we say not yet? I I just I feel like there's a yet there. Because if you think about a player and how they end up being who they are and being that elite athlete, like, you've gotta want that. You know? Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, Trace. Speaker 3
No. I like that. Speaker 2
I apologize. I had to take a bathroom break. And with no preparation, guys, six and a half feet. Speaker 1
Dude, impressed. Well done, Grace. I love that you had a ruler ready to go. Speaker 2
Well, I just knew how far the distance was. Speaker 3
I love it. Did the foot thing. Speaker 3
so any any anything else you guys wanna comment before we, we get into the next scene? Because the next scene is kinda traumatic for me. Speaker 2
You seem it it just it's slowly but surely doing character building. I didn't realize it, I think, as I was watching it the first go around. But within looking back with the context of Shorzy, you know, you start seeing the teeny tiny it's little bits of I mean, everybody gave it the character, like, oh, it's just a one note character. How are they gonna make a spin off out of it? But looking back, having seen Shorzy and then looking back at letter king, you start going, Speaker 2
not as entirely one note as I thought. So Speaker 0
you do see seeds planted throughout Letterkenny for the character that I'm sure he's going to be in the spin off. Speaker 3
Give your balls a tug, titfucker, and you're a fucking you fucking losers. Like, that's that's established from season one. Oh, yeah. You know? Alright. Here we go now. Speaker 7
Think of the destruction. Think of the carnage. Think of the good man left behind. Speaker 6
Toilet was backed up, so I added shit in there too, titfuckers. Let me get that plug, buddy. We gotta do something about that pylon, buddy. Speaker 7
How's that for motivation? Speaker 6
Hey, Riley. I made a oopsie. Can you ask your mom to pick up Jonesy's mom on the way over to my place? I double booked him by mistake, you you fucking loser. Speaker 7
That guy's a masterpiece. Speaker 6
Look at that fucking masterpiece, boys. Speaker 4
I'd master that piece, boys. Speaker 6
Look at those legs go up and make a complete fucking ass out of themselves. Speaker 4
I'd wear that out, boys. Speaker 6
Holy fuck would I love to get sticky with her. Speaker 4
Stick me right to her, boys. Speaker 6
Fucking Shorzy, buddy. I'm ready to pop. I'm already starting to snap crackle, buddy. Now stay focused, buddy. W's. Who brought the fucking rocket, boys? Speaker 4
Who's Billet sisters a fucking rocket, boys? Speaker 6
Fuck. She looks cold. I'll show her my warm front. Speaker 4
Hey. You look mad. I'll give you a bone to pick. Speaker 6
Tyson, make some room for us on the bench. Joy boy. Beat the shit out of that guy. Give your balls a tug, you tip. Speaker 3
Is anybody thinking about Tyson and Joint Boy kicking Shorzy's ass when they're watching Shorzy? Nope. I wasn't. Yeah. Go on. Speaker 2
He probably hasn't got the motivational gene quite yet that, you know, the guys will go to the wall for him. I mean, he's getting there, but as of right now, he's just pissing everybody off. Speaker 3
He's a pylon. He's a plug. Go on. Speaker 0
Yeah. No. I always thought it would be funny if however, Katie started going out with Shorzy, and it pissed everybody. Well, it weirded everybody out, but it pissed Wayne off because Wayne's always said I'd rather have silverfish in my kitchen than hockey players. And then, you know, Shorzy is himself, so he says something a bit off color to or about Katie. And then Jared Kiso has to pretend to fight himself. Speaker 3
Awesome's fanfic is a train wreck, I bet. Like, I bet you you have just, like, sprawling story lines of all Speaker 5
of these things you'd like to see. Speaker 0
Baby, I have over two hundred and sixty thousand words written down. A fraction of which have been published. Speaker 1
Give it to me. Okay. I'm getting happy Gilmore vibes. Like, he literally is Yeah. All for the chirping, the, you know, like, the anger issues, like, you know, just getting that all out in the court, like or not court. Shoot. Rank. Oh my god. Speaker 1
Oh my god. You're good. Spatula. But getting it all on on, like, the rank and, like, just just that that's where we're at right now with Shorzy right now. Like, he's not like, he's a hockey player. Sure. But, like, he's thinking, like, it's all about that aggression piece and, you know, how do I get how do I how do I assert my dominance? But dude Tyson g and Joy Boy, like, beaten him? I don't even remember that. I don't even remember it. Speaker 3
Wow. Totally happened. Speaker 3
So it makes me think what you just said made me think about the conversation that Shorzy has with Laura Moore about, like, when he's outside the Colson. He's in there waiting for the cabin. He's telling her about how he used to just like, why he likes to be a hockey player because it's the only place he can be himself because he acts like a dick all like, when he was younger, right, and he was at the bar and beat that person up. What you're saying, like, Erin, what you said about this scene and about Shorzy here reminds me of the past him that he was talking about to Laura Moore outside the Colson. Speaker 2
More and more years between the two seasons or the two Well movie shows. Speaker 3
Just settle just settle down. Speaker 1
If there's a portal, there can't be time. Speaker 0
So, the The only Speaker 3
way we can have it for you. Go on. Speaker 0
The ass wash shower handstands, that is something that Jared saw a teammate do on one of his old teams and thought it was the fucking funniest thing he'd ever seen. Speaker 1
I mean, the show is for the teammates. Like, it is pretty damn funny. Speaker 0
And, two, I I genuinely think that that Riley and Jonesy and Shorzy, like, in these, you know, junior and senior hockey storylines, these are basically just Jared's memoirs of being a hockey fuck boy. Speaker 3
Also, what's up with the hair? The wigs are killing me. Like, he's got It gets worse. Better. Keep his hair short Speaker 0
for Wayne. Right? Speaker 3
I know. I mean, no. I but Speaker 5
I'm saying sometimes it's like Speaker 0
The hockey flow is critical, man. It's crucial. It's clutch. Speaker 3
I would love a season four flashback to Shorzy face on with that hair. Like, oh, Shorzy's thinking about when he was younger, and then we see this Shorzy with whatever that was going on, but, like, face on. Like, I know that they're not gonna spend time doing it, but my fanfic would be flashbacks where we don't we don't miss seeing Shorzy's face. We get, like, replays of early Letterkenny stuff, and he it's just him. Because they don't he doesn't cross paths with Wayne until ten. Speaker 3
So there there's plenty of content to dip back into, but that might be a questionable call. Speaker 0
If we wanna see this, you and me should start a group text with Ashley right now. Alright. Speaker 3
Let's do it. Mhmm. Can we just say, look at those legs go up and make a complete ass of themselves? Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. That's a class a line. Speaker 0
That's fucking gnar, dude. Speaker 2
I mean, it's borderline that. It it's I mean, it's borderline offensive, but, also, you know, it's one of those things you get the impression that, any any any well, this is how do I say this? The speaking out of turn. Speaker 0
Just say it. Like Speaker 2
Any any woman that heard it would would go, okay. Yeah. Speaker 3
Maybe They might be like, Speaker 2
oh, that's offensive. They're going Speaker 3
Maybe the only types of girls who would, like, get wet for a tongue kissing toaster compliment. Right? I feel like this is the early this is, like, the first these are the roots of the compliments that he throws at Laura. Speaker 1
So Right? Like, awesome. What are we talking about? Ages? Like, are are I I don't and not that we need to put a number to it, but, like Speaker 0
Okay. So league. Junior league. Right? Speaker 3
Mhmm. Here we go. Speaker 0
Twenty is the cap. You get in over a year if your birthday's odd or if you're really good and the coach wants an excuse to keep you. Mhmm. So that's twenty one. Riley and Jonesy were cut in their overage year. They were already twenty one, and that was back in the beginning of series two. Speaker 1
And if Shorzy's younger, he's, like, twenty ish. Speaker 0
Yeah. He's twenty. Speaker 3
Okay. But he's there right now in senior hockey Speaker 0
with them. But that's the next season. Speaker 0
because hockey seasons are fall to spring. Speaker 3
Allegedly, Shorzy's twenty one, and the boys are twenty two. Speaker 1
Something like that. Yeah. So they're a bit young. You know? They're all young. They're fucking Speaker 0
fetuses, man. So there's no forty year old perspective. Speaker 3
Well, there's no there's no Shorzy in season four Nope. Just for the record. And thank you, Awesome, for saying nope with such conviction because over the I don't know how many times I rewatched Letterkenny. Whenever I saw my notes that season four didn't have Shorzi in it, I went into a paranoid panic attack and would rewatch season four just to check it. So I've rewatched season four, which is my least favorite season, way more times than I care to admit just to make sure Shoresy's not in there. So that's the sacrifice I made Speaker 1
for you all. What was happening in season four? Just I don't know. Speaker 0
Okay. Season four is a summer season. So we've got Riley and Jonesy at the gym. They're making sense. And wrong. They meet Dax and Graham there for the Speaker 0
Right. So there's no ice time going on. There's no hockey going on. Got it. And then the Hicks, let's see. Rosie and Wayne start off broken up, and then they get back together, but Rosie's largely off screen for the entire series. We've got one of the best episodes ever, which is way to a man's heart. Casey, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You don't like series four? Speaker 3
Season four. Series six four. Least favorite. It's my least favorite season. Speaker 1
We can all have differences and feel like Speaker 0
I know. I'm just saying way to a man's heart is fucking choice. Then there's also, there's, the Letterkenny leave episode, which is great, and then there's great day for Thunder Bay. Speaker 1
Okay. So it just doesn't make sense for Shorzy to be around. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So no four. Got it. Speaker 3
No. So we're gonna head straight into season five where we pick up episode four, but just the very end of episode four, which is letter Kenny Spelling Bee. Speaker 8
Figured out why the girls hate each other. They're in love with the same man, fucking embracing. Figure it out. Speaker 6
What could it be? Give your balls a tug, you titfucker. We gotta go to the source. Speaker 3
Whatever. It's your only hope, buddy. Speaker 6
I'm not helping you, titfuckers or those twats. Give your ball Speaker 3
Okay. Con let's contextualize. So at the end of that first clip, the coach is talking about Mary Anne and Betty Anne. They're they're both fucking Shorzy. That's what we learn at the end of that little clip. Well, we're now wanna be fucking him. Right? I thought they were. Speaker 0
No. No. They don't until later, they don't start hanging out. And even then, it's not really made clear that he's banging them. He's just hanging out with them. They're wheeling. Because he's still being on the mom's train this entire time. Speaker 3
Well, Riley and Joan's mom, but she was a bear. Speaker 2
Betty Ann and Mary Ann are a little young for her. They're a Speaker 3
bit young. Everybody's a bit young. Speaker 0
But this is why. Speaker 1
There this is not his phase yet, maybe. Even though I know what's Speaker 0
mean, again, he's younger than anybody else. So even Katie would be older than him. Katie's also older than Riley and Jonesy. Speaker 3
Here we go. Alright. Let's Love it. Let's not I yes. Yes. That is that is true. Right? That she's older than Riley and Josie? Okay. But she's not a mom. Anyway alright. I don't wanna get in the weeds over here. Speaker 1
A dude will screw up a team. Sorry. Speaker 3
I said it. You're right. Yeah. Yes. You did. Alright. So in Riley and Jonesy figure out that Mary Anne and Betty Anne, after they are going after each other's myths across the the the the room, Riley and Jonesy figure out that they need to go to the source of what the problem is, and that is Shorzy. So this is where that Speaker 6
picks up. There's a lot in the line here, Shorzy. Hey. Wanna talk about lines? You fucking loser. I woke up to your mom ripping dick dingers off my foreskin. Tell her to keep her hands off my scutes. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. I made your mom cum so hard they made a Canadian Heritage Minute out of it and Don McKellar played my dick. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. I made your mom so wet, Trudeau deployed a twenty four hour infantry unit to stack sandbags around my bed. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, both. Your lives are so fucking pathetic. I ran a charity fifteen k to raise awareness for it, you fucking losers. Be final, buddy. You need more, buddy. The suit's on deck, Berta. You could go wrong. Speaker 3
Let's just take a moment to enjoy this moment. That could go wrong. I love these cuts they do. Speaker 0
These smash cuts. It's like Mhmm. We're talking about something, and we're not actually going to name what we're talking about. Smash cut. This is what they're talking about. Speaker 3
So before this use this Speaker 0
all the time in Letterkenny. Speaker 1
an ethics problem here? Speaker 1
Like, can you be wheeling some dude and then all of a sudden they're the official? Speaker 3
don't know. It's bullshit hockey. Right? Like I guess. Speaker 0
There are only so many refs to go around. I've looked into this. Refs get paid fucking shit. Okay? And, anyway, he's not Speaker 0
one minute. He's a fucking linesman. Speaker 5
Well and I have a question about this Speaker 3
later on. Like, in one of the bonus scenes, he skates up to drop the puck, and he gets dinged with a stick in the balls. Do linesmen drop pucks? Yes. Okay. I don't know I don't know shit about shit in hockey. I just didn't I didn't know if that was a thing. I'm taking your word for it. So this is our first look at Speaker 2
when the Americanos are running the podcast. Speaker 1
Right. Yeah. Right. Speaker 3
Well, Victor will know. Speaker 3
This is first look at referee Shorzy. Speaker 6
Shorzy? Give your balls a tug. Shorzy. Ted's We heard what Speaker 1
you said about us, you sack of shit. Never let a wound do Speaker 3
a man's job, Watch this. Speaker 1
We're just taking a break from cooking and cleaning to win back to back to back ships, asshole. I'll make you Speaker 3
a sandwich afterwards, though. I'll shove your ass for Speaker 6
you too. You two are the silliest twats I ever met in my whole fucking life. I didn't say any of that shit, you dumb broads. But I did say your breath could stop a Mack truck, Betty Ann. I'll tell that to anyone who will listen. Speaker 1
Fuck you, Shorzy. Speaker 6
Fuck you, Betty Ann. Your breath is an existential price. This made me question my whole fucking life. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Mary Ann. You got legs on you like redwoods. You could box jump a bungalow. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. Your mom groped me two Halloweens ago. Shut the fuck up or I'll take it to Twitter. Fuck you, Shorzy. You're a horrible fucking ref. Fuck you, Jonesy. Take a look at me. I'm not even a ref. I'm a fucking linesman, but you can referee on my Nazi piece of shit. Fuck you, Sarsie. I'd still smash you both if I was bored, but Riley and Jonesy's moms get too jealous. Make yourselves useful. Grab me a bag of dill picklers. Good luck, you fucking losers. Two ladies. Women. Nice. Hurry up and score score a fucking goal already. I'm getting to bedtime sillies. Fuck us, Shorzy. Give us our time out. Fuck you, Riley. Tell your mom to give me a time out. And last time I tried that, she threatened to take a header on me into an empty pool at the Quality Suites. Fuck you, Shorzy. Leave us alone. Fuck you, Jonesy. Tell your mom to leave me alone. She's been laying in my fucking water bed since Labor Day. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you all. Your lives are so sad. I get a charity tax break just for hanging out with you. Nice sweep, no sweep. Give your balls a tug. Speaker 3
Who the fuck skates like that? Speaker 0
Okay. That is exactly what I thought the first time I saw that. Speaker 1
Okay. Erin. Okay. Okay. Is this, like, the origin of, like, where he's deciding no to the women his age and heading toward the the elderly women? Like, I mean, I feel like we're seeing a moment right here where Speaker 2
Oh, really? Aaron? Jesus. Speaker 0
They're You you you sorry? I didn't mean to be disrespectful. The women This is a delineation. Right? He does express a preference for the moms rather than Speaker 1
Yes. I I didn't mean to quantify that. I did not mean to quantify that disrespectfully. So right. Good. Speaker 0
No one's mad at you, baby girl. Speaker 5
Good job, Trace. Speaker 1
Well, now I'm gonna not sleep tonight. Yeah. That's right. So but, like, I mean, one would have to assume how old a mother of a a twenty year old person is. I don't wanna assume. So however old sixteen, though. However, yeah, however old they are. So this could potentially be that origin piece of him in being more interested in the women that will take care of him in the way that he would be most, interested in. And then also the skating. Sorry, Katie. I'm just fucking spiraling here. Anybody else? I got nothing else. Speaker 2
I think that, I can't remember who said it. I think that a long time ago, I think awesome had mentioned it and was saying, of course, Shorzy's into moms big time. He never had one. You know? I mean, he's he's been chasing that his whole life. This is true. Speaker 3
Yeah. A few a few things from that scene, watch this, and then just, like, the setup for him being the ref, it I I love this because I didn't think about this scene when I was watching Shorzy season one when he first starts chirping Liam and Corey because it's it's such a different Shorzy. But watching this back now, I'm like, well, that's I mean, that's what he's he's doing that on the ice as a ref the same way he's doing it to Corey and Liam. Like, that's the one thing in my opinion that doesn't change. Speaker 0
Yeah. No. It definitely does. When I saw him, the the first time we see him on the ice with Corey and Liam, I immediately thought about this. Speaker 3
Well, that's because you know every episode with your eyes closed. But yeah. Speaker 0
But, I mean, like yeah. No. That's just it's a major thread of continuity for the character throughout both series or both shows rather. Yep. I Speaker 2
always thought that Shorzy's attitude was ramped up big time when he was either a linesman or a rift because he was pissed he's on the ice and not playing. You know? And Mhmm. Any anything's gonna set him off at that point. Speaker 1
We also see him, though, chirping people or players that are very talented. Like, he's clearly upset that they are really, really good. So I don't know. I just feel like that that early Shorzy piece, like, that's what we're seeing a lot more of. Like, oh, they're gonna go back to back to back. You know? I'm gonna chirp you. I'm gonna make you feel like you're crappy, but you're a really good player because I wanna be. As sure as he being jealous his own little way. Speaker 0
Yeah. He's very jealous, for sure. Speaker 3
Do we think at all that there's a nugget of knowledge that and maybe it's not from an altruistic standpoint, but maybe he was chirped the same way and it forced him to be better. And he thinks that by chirp like, maybe there's some backhanded way where, like, all of the Shorsey chirping in Letterkenny, and I might be pulling I might be doing the very thing that I'm trying to disprove. I might be pulling from Shorzy Shorzy into Letterkenny Shorzy. But, like, what if he's just trying to, like, get them riled up? Like, how in the bathroom, like, he's tripping them to get himself riled up. But what if he's doing that to get them riled up? Like, what if he really wants them to win? What if he really likes these girls? Speaker 2
Right. And, I mean, I think yeah. It's a it's sort of a cross pollination. I I could I could totally see that case that, you know, that, you know, these guys chewed me a new one and, you know, made me feel like dog shit on the regular, and it motivated me to play better. But there's also that, you know, you you always y'all in the back of your head, you're kinda wondering if it's a, you know, you know, hurt people hurt people. You know? And it's, you know, it's kind of give before you know, give it to them before they give it to you kinda thing. And as we've established yeah. Shorzy Speaker 3
It's not bullying. It's tough love. Go on. Speaker 2
Right. And but and as we've deduced, though, is irrespective of his, hockey talents, Shorzy, the one thing he does better than anybody else is the psychological chirps and getting into the opponent's head. And, you know, at some point, you know, every athlete figures out what it is they do best and exploits it as as best they can. You know? If if, you know, you're a fast skater, you know, I'm just gonna outrun everybody, you know, if you're a dead ass shot. Shorsey's like, what do you what do you think, awesome? Like, slightly better than mediocre in in most, you know, hockey metrics. I mean, he he's one of the guys who made up for a lack of natural talent with just working hard, but he also knows his most effective yet. Speaker 3
Yeah. So Oh, man. Right? Well, I Speaker 2
mean yeah. But it's it's, in a lot of ways, it's just the, cliche is the wrong word, but every every level of sport has it of someone who, makes up for, you know, a a there's people out here the old saying, there's people out here that are better than me, but there's not gonna be anyone who wants it more than I do. Mhmm. And there's not gonna be anyone that works harder than I do. And you get the impression, yeah, I don't guess we've seen it, but you also get the impression that kinda falls into Shorzy's vein. And you can and and and like we were saying before, it it right just fucking pisses him off that people squander their talents and don't use them to the fullness of their advantage. And he's gonna do the best thing he knows how to do, which was is just mentally attack them over again. Mhmm. But yeah. I wonder Speaker 3
if he's thinking that deep at this point. Speaker 2
Well, I mean, consciously, no. Right. He's he's thinking about wheeling moms. You know? Speaker 3
But Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. Speaker 1
If we're if we're just looking at it from the clips we've seen, I don't feel like I've seen a talented chores yet. Speaker 3
Nope. I I haven't Speaker 1
seen the ringer. I mean, I I will say, though, that the only thing that makes me think that, though, Tracy, is, like, that he's a ringer is that coach is all about him. And I don't know if it's his coach is just who he is and, like, likes that vulgar piece of it or if he sees the talent and can see, like, where his trajectory is or if he actually is a good player. But I I just that too. From what I've seen. Speaker 2
But oftentimes This Speaker 3
is an excellent point. Speaker 2
I've seen too many coaches who, and it's not a bad thing, but put way too much emphasis on desire. You know? He's the guy. You know? He he wants it. Look at that jam. Look at that. You know? And it's like, you know? And nobody outright says, yeah, but he sucks on the ice or something. The coaches love desire. Oh my god. Do they love desire. And to the point where they think, like we were saying before, it can overcome a lot of things. Like, you know, that's not my best hockey player, but god dang it. He wants it the most. He's the kind of Speaker 3
But Aaron's right. We haven't seen Shorzy on the ice. This is the first time we see Shorzy on the ice, and he's skating like a fucking bellend. He's doing like It's a cute scene. Speaker 1
It's super cute and funny. Speaker 3
Fuck. Ridiculous. I want that again, another Jared, if you're listening, I would love to see some silly silly skating in season four. Say that three times fast. Like, just once at beer league, can you just maybe just ice Liam and Corey and just just skate away, like, a little bit? Just give us a little bit of silly skating. I I think that would be hilarious. Speaker 3
So that's, that's season five. Speaker 1
And Awesome spin. Speaker 3
Now we're getting ready to head into season six. And then oh, right. Doop. So we're gonna head into season six. We're gonna look at season six, and then seven is gonna be the the Woosah because seven is where it starts to, open up like Riley and Jonesy's mom. Speaker 1
I'm really loving this. Like, despite my claim disclaimer in the beginning, like, I just I I really appreciate just looking at this one character and, like, how they started and where they're going. So I thank you. I know we're not done with the episode, but Speaker 3
I'm just gonna be just fine. I love you. I knew you're gonna be fine. I didn't believe you at the beginning. You said you weren't qualified. You're totally qualified for this. Speaker 3
Alright. Here we go now. Speaker 6
Oh, the muscle broke. Fuck. You could cut the sexual tension over there with a knife. Give your balls a tug, tit fuck. Fuck you, Shorzy. Put a shirt on. Fuck your island. Go scoop it off your mom's bedroom floor for me. She gives my nipples butterfly kiss. The basement. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom shot come straight across the room and killed my Siamese fighting fish. Threw off the pH levels in my aquarium, you piece of shit. Fuck you, Shorzy. Did you hear yourself? Fuck you, Riley. Should heard your mom last night. She sounded like a window closing on a Tonkinese cat's tail. Sounded like Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you. Jonesy should've heard your mom last night. She sounded like my great aunt when I pull a surprise visit. She was like, oh. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. Your mom's sneaky gushed so hard. She bucked me off the water bed last night. Don't tell her I was thinking about Jonesy's mom the entire time. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom ugly cried because she left the lens cap on the camcorder last night. It's fucking amateur hour over there. Fuck you, Shorzy. Speaker 0
He just wants to show off. Speaker 1
Does does he does he typically prefer Jonesy's mom? Have we really looked into that? Speaker 2
Oh. Oh, that would that would be that would need a shot by shot breakdown. I mean Speaker 0
Yeah. That that would, that'd be a hell of a pie chart. I might too. Speaker 3
I'm, that's your job, Erin. Speaker 1
I got it. I'm on it. Speaker 3
I'll send I'll send you this master cut, and then you can do what you need to with it. Speaker 3
I'll make some progress. A guess. Speaker 2
And not to toot my own horn, but, I had this episode, on the review of it. And Nice. On that particular one, I was the very first person to ever give Shores an MVP. Speaker 0
Hey, Trace. Yes. It wasn't even for his back freckles. Speaker 2
No. It was the it was the Tonkinese cat and his aunt. Speaker 3
That's cultural appropriation. I love that. He has a Siamese fighting fish. Speaker 1
Okay. So we're seeing him exercising and working his ass off. Like, I mean Speaker 1
So he's putting in the work. Speaker 3
Yep. And the physic we've always seen the physicality of Shorzy. Mhmm. Yeah. Right? Like, we know he's Speaker 0
Yeah. That's that's been on display from day one. Right? Speaker 3
Yeah. Totally. Something else I wanna point out when what I didn't realize until I started doing this re rewatch again, when he sits down across from Laura the first time and says, I can't believe I can't remember this quote. But he's like, you ever be sitting across from somebody and just makes you wanna say, yeah. When he first did that in Shorzy season one, I was like, what the fuck is he on about? Like, why Speaker 5
is he what is that? And, like, ah. Speaker 3
I was like, where is this coming from? Speaker 3
like to point out this is where it's coming from. So this is this is another, like, tie. Referee Shorzy ties, this is another arching tie to that Shorzy that I didn't I didn't make a connection to with with the old Shorzy. Right? So Speaker 3
That's something that I loved when I figured out when Speaker 5
I was watching this. Like, because the a's and Speaker 3
the o's are funny here because they're like, who gives a fuck? It's just Shorzy. But when he did it to Laura Speaker 5
at the dog house, I was like, this is this guy for real? She's this is how he's gonna talk to her? Speaker 3
Totally makes sense now. Speaker 1
But, yeah, there's a pit in the Speaker 3
any other thoughts about this scene? Speaker 0
I'm I'm still hung up on back freckles. Speaker 1
Okay. And and the discipline Let's get how how he can do that exercise. Speaker 0
He's holding it and delivering lines at the same time. Speaker 0
How is this man for fucking real? Seriously. Speaker 3
I know. Right? He's like Superman or something. Speaker 1
Where we at on the hair revolution? Is this Speaker 3
We're in seasons. This is Oh, right. This is a good question. Let's no. Yeah. But Speaker 6
a little shorter. Speaker 3
A good question. It's it is, but it's still he still got some of those wings. It's hard to tell, but he Speaker 0
still got the bucket Speaker 0
She left the buttons, Calvin. Speaker 6
Quarter last night. It's fucking amateur hour over there. Fuck you, Shorzy. Speaker 3
So it's it's dude. I could rewatch that scene so many times. Speaker 3
Alright. Here we go. Here's here's a little gem for you. Speaker 6
Whoever did that, that's fucking Timbits hockey. That's Saturday morning tight skills camp. Hey. Nice butt. Let's get some fucking bubble tea. Speaker 0
Again, it's just going off. Speaker 3
Before we get into Ron and Dax, can we just talk about this? This is maybe fifteen seconds. Speaker 0
No. Not even a significant right? This is significant. Speaker 1
Okay. Well right. Speaker 1
we've got the origin of his food or his culinary interest. Speaker 2
Right. And it can show us that we were first seen together.
Speaker 1
Oh, cool. Is on the bike. Right. Trace. Wow. Yep. Holy cow. Dinner. The perspective that puts all of that.
Speaker 2
Well, I mean, she Yeah. Even in the first season of Shorzy, he was a known commodity to her. I mean, it wasn't like, you know, she was like, who's this guy Shorzy? Now she knew who he was.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Brought him up too, didn't she?
Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. She was the one who brought him up because, she had been involved with ADN Energy when they were sponsoring the championship.
Speaker 3
That's next week.
Speaker 1
Dude, my mind blown, Tracy. Alert. That's great. Kiss your brain, buddy.
Speaker 3
So this this short little scene to me, is one of the, like, keystone scenes not keystone cops, but you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 3
This is like an anchor scene for Shorzy in Letterkenny and Shorzy in Shorzy.
Speaker 0
Because you say it's not PCS, but I would not be surprised to hear Yakety Sax playing in the background. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3
This is this is true.
Speaker 3
So I just wanted to take a minute and acknowledge that because it's a short scene, but it's an important one.
Speaker 0
I I wanna take a minute and acknowledge his fucking delts right there. Look at that shit.
Speaker 1
Anyway, thank you, sir.
Speaker 3
Also, the girl's butt is jiggling.
Speaker 0
Oh, yeah. The girl on the jiggle machine, she's working it.
Speaker 1
I don't remember seeing that dance.
Speaker 2
Well, that other machine's working it.
Speaker 1
Was that there, Casey, when we were I don't remember seeing that.
Speaker 0
The jiggle machine?
Speaker 3
Oh, the jiggle machine?
Speaker 1
I definitely rode on one of
Speaker 1
I was on one of those bikes.
Speaker 3
You you had your crotch on the same seat as these chicks did.
Speaker 3
You're crotch buddies.
Speaker 6
Yeah. That's fucking Timmy's Milwaukee. That's Saturday morning tech skills. That butt
Speaker 6
Let's get some fucking bubble tea.
Speaker 7
Go. That's grande.
Speaker 6
Bubble tea. Graceful. Glorious. Gracias. Ariana Grande looks like she's eight. I'm giving the preschool your plate number, man. Shorzy? And Greta's daughter's a married woman, you classless piece of shit. She wouldn't fuck you if you had Mario's dangles and mess his dick. Fuck you, Shorzy.
Speaker 1
Fuck you, Daxi. You wouldn't know what to do with the great one. He fires bigger rockets than Elon Musk.
Speaker 6
Oh, fuck you, Mary Anne.
Speaker 3
And fuck you, Ronzy. You're a marathon of dope. Terry Fox ran thirty four hundred miles in a hundred and forty three days on one leg. If he were alive, he'd be getting handies from Hilton's and Hadid's.
Speaker 6
Fuck you, Betty Ann.
Speaker 1
If Terry Fox was alive, Giselle would be sliding into his DMs from Patriot's games.
Speaker 6
you, Mary Ann. If Terry Fox ran a hundred and forty three days, he smashed a hundred and forty three broads, and that's probably fucking light. Fuck you, Shorzy.
Speaker 3
If Terry Fox was alive, he'd have an interview show like Seinfeld.
Speaker 6
You mean comedians in cars getting coffee?
Speaker 3
Yeah. But it'd be called Canadians in cars getting blown.
Speaker 1
If Terry Fox was alive, he'd be smashing J Law and J Lo on Scar Joe's boat.
Speaker 6
He'd be bolting with Kylie Minogue. Let's get some fucking gyozas. Fuck you, Shorzy.
Speaker 1
Okay. Anyone have thoughts? Because I've got some thoughts. Cow.
Speaker 1
Okay. So he has no respect. Like, I I get why the actor is not looking at them. There is no respect for those other people. His back is fucking to them. Yep. And you don't, okay, again, I mean, if we're talking about, like, same character, different character in and Letterkenny, you don't see that in of him, like, being, like, fuck just disrespectful to people and, like, having his back to them. Scaps. Scaps.
Speaker 1
Okay. There's that's my thoughts. I can't. I just there's no respect there. He has no respect for them.
Speaker 3
No. No. You're you're right.
Speaker 0
And that's what I've been saying this whole time is he fundamentally does not respect Riley and Jonesy.
Speaker 5
Yeah. I'm I'm And
Speaker 3
the only reason I was giving you hell is because you were saying it before we see it. And that's the thing. Like, it's hard to watch this
Speaker 3
know what we know.
Speaker 0
From around series three, which was when I said it. Like
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5
Yeah. I'm under I mean, I thought
Speaker 0
it was pretty obvious he doesn't respect them because, like okay. Look. It is a time honored tradition to try to score off someone by saying, well, I fucked your mom. Right?
Speaker 0
But he is following through. He's literally actually fucking their mothers.
Speaker 2
Their mothers were fucking him.
Speaker 3
And when you're you're chirping at least doing it while you're looking them in the face. So he's doubling down on the disrespect here because he's actually fucking moms, and he's not even looking you in the face.
Speaker 0
Right? Surprise, son. Go right, Theodore. I know that comes in a couple
Speaker 3
of minutes, but fuck. Yeah. So, that was from season six, episode three, the city. And that is the last time we see Shorzy as we currently, know him. So what's the summary? What is the Shorzy based on what we've seen, what do we know about Shorzy? He's really tall.
Speaker 0
Women, and he doesn't respect Raglan Fonzy at all.
Speaker 3
He has I mean He's zero back.
Speaker 2
Go on. Creative standpoint. I mean, they fundamentally just, cultivated a character you love to hate. It's not very deep. It's not very thing. It's just there's the asshole doing asshole things to our our our our boys, Riley and Jonesy, and it's good for laughs and all that stuff. But, you know, we haven't really got into the and it's I realize it's coming up, but, you know, there's there's hints of it, but you you don't see the competitiveness of Shorzy quite yet. And I mean and I I think it's interesting that they develop the character this far until, you know, they unleash Shorzy the player and coming up.
Speaker 3
I mean, now it's it's happening now. Go on. Awesome.
Speaker 0
So, I joined the subreddit in two thousand eighteen. Right? That's two years after letter Kenny premiered. And even right from the moment I joined, Shorzy was one of, if not the favorite character of the vast majority of the sub. And mind you, when I joined, there were about seventy five thousand people. Okay? Speaker 0
And they already even as little screen like, if you think about as little screen time as we get of him up through Speaker 0
Series four because I joined right after or I joined right before series five dropped. So we got, you know, Shorzy as little as we get of him in one, two, and three because he's not in four. He was still the favorite. And part of that's down to timing, but part of that is just down to his absolutely scathing treatment of Railey and Josie and treating them like the butt monkeys that they kind of are. Like, that was really what drew the audience's attention. That was what drew the admiration of the kind of people who hang out on Reddit, which I did not count myself as one of those. Speaker 2
When when it was all said and done, his his motives and his actions and his words, yes, can be offensive and leave a lot to be desired. But looking back on it, at no point is Shorzy wrong about Speaker 1
also know that Shorzy Speaker 0
Shorzy is a truth teller and occasionally a truth bellower. You know? Exactly. Speaker 1
And and there's a cleverness to it too. The the words he's choosing to use are unique and things that we haven't heard before. You know? I mean, I I I mean, this is not this season right now that we're on, but, like, the the jerking on the side of of your mom's, like, card or whatever, like or your door handle. I was like, I lost my shit to that. Like, who says that? Speaker 0
Like Well, somebody Jared overheard that somewhere, and it just wormed into my brain, and he had to put that shit on paper. Speaker 1
That's what makes this character so incredible is that the word the way that it is written, you don't need a a a big scene to make it powerful or impactful, like, or to to think about it the next day or or years or months later. Like, it's it's the way that it's written, the way that it's delivered is so freaking brilliant. Speaker 0
Yeah. It's just the the the the words, the actual fucking literal just words on paper Yeah. And the timing and delivery is what makes it so stand out. Speaker 2
Right. And and from a, you know, you know, a shade free writer's perspective, it's it's the, you know, just the vocabulary, the syntax, and the rhythm of the prose. Yes. It's it's dirty, and it's insulting, and it's borderline even crossing the borderline offensive, but just the the rhythm and flow and choice of the words is never ever gets the credit it deserves of how brilliantly it's written. Speaker 3
And just so you know because Speaker 0
it could never get the Speaker 6
credit it deserves. We Speaker 0
talking about credit. Speaker 3
Sorry. We are still talking about Shorzy and Letterkenny. Mhmm. What Trace just said could easily be applied to Shorzy and Shorzy because that is Speaker 0
to all says something that you letter Kenny or Shorzy. Speaker 2
I was speaking more specifically to the, the insults and the chirps. Yeah. Yeah. But, no, it's right. Speaker 2
It's just a I mean, and and the weirdest part about it all is even going into Shorzy, so much of it is odd. Like, if you were to actually run into someone who actually talked like that in real life, you'd be like, that dude's fucking weird. But in the context of the show and and don't get me wrong. The lines that people say to him are written to set up what he says. Mhmm. That's, you know, a little writer trick. But Mhmm. It's even then, it's like, nobody talks like that in real life. Speaker 2
Mhmm. And that's the brilliance of it. Speaker 1
There's a uniqueness. Speaker 3
That's right. Are you guys ready for season seven? Let's get on Speaker 2
the list. Let's let's do it. Oh, I love it. Speaker 3
These are our last this is the last season for for this show, and you'll you'll see why. I'm gonna do you guys want me to stop in between, or do you want me to let them all run? Speaker 3
Talk about them later. Speaker 0
Well, let her rip. If we wanna stop, we can ask to hit the pause. Player plays bigger than all of them combined. So Speaker 6
Will you two just man up and make out? I started an office pool for it, and day I picked is tomorrow. Get tugging to it, fuckers. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom pulled the goalie on me and now she's preggo. Surprise, son. Go rate the fucking yard. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. I slipped one past your mom too. Her preggo parts smell like hot dog water. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom's in her first trimester and already bitching about baby break and had to tell her she's been covered in Riley's month since the Genesis. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. I'd talk to your mom and do a three way with her midwife, and she gassed us both out of the room. I'm fucking humiliated. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Jonesy. Your mom wants to name the baby after the place it was conceived. Can't wait to meet Martha's Vineyard Shore. Fuck you, Shorzy. Fuck you, Riley. Your mom wants the same thing. How do I shorten down handicap bathroom at Cheesecake Factory in Boca Raton? Speaker 7
Fuck. Alright. Starting up front. Riley, you ready? Speaker 7
Good. Because you're going. Jonesy, you ready? Good. Because you're going. Jersey, you ready? Good. Because you're going. Speaker 0
Alright. Lurcuterie Irish are back. Speaker 6
Engaging monitor. Speaker 1
Can you stop there? Like Speaker 6
Nice fucking birdcay, champion. Speaker 1
We got we got Good Cousier going. The dude fucking took his shoes off. Yep. Speaker 2
Yes. Yes. Oh, and, Erin, to your point Speaker 0
of while he's dropping a juice. Speaker 2
And to your point of, which mom, you know, I've I've been to Boca Raton, but I've never been to Martha's Vineyard. But I hear it's probably nicer than Boca Raton. So that might that might be a chalk on whoever's mom that was. Speaker 0
Okay. But here's the thing, though. I'm pretty sure the moms took him. Speaker 3
They moms were wheeling him. Speaker 1
They were wheeling him. Yeah. Speaker 2
True. But that has to count into reporting he probably likes more. If you mark mark Speaker 1
for dinner, just sit here. Speaker 0
Just, like, double up. Have, like, a whole ass threesome rather than doing everything separate. Speaker 1
A lot of origins in that last clip. Speaker 3
Yeah. And, also, the fact that Tanis is the one running the team should not be lost on anyone because her sister please. Oh god, help me also. Vanik, Speaker 0
whatever, plays Dennis. In the league. On the board of an episode. Speaker 3
Yes. So when they go and talk to the league, they are talking to Danis, who in real life is played by the sister of the woman who plays Tannis. Just wanna point that out there. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. But he yeah. Shoes come off. No. That's I I love that you stopped there because, yes, the shoes come off and good because you're fucking going. I don't know what else to say. It speaks for itself. Speaker 6
Nice fucking birdcage. At the end of the day, what are you really protecting? Fuck you, Perfect. Perfect. Speaker 9
What do we got, bro? Speaker 6
Get this fucking over with, bro. Speaker 0
Oh, hold on. Pause it for Speaker 6
a second. Hey, Dave. The competitive men's hockey. Speaker 0
So, one of my friends plays hockey, and they told me that the only people who wear dark visors like that on the ice are the biggest assholes playing. Facts. Speaker 9
Yep. What we got, bro? Speaker 3
There's that sign in the background, sixty nine me. Yep. Speaker 1
I did not see that. Speaker 6
Hey, Dave. They're competitive men's hockey. Hey. What's women's hockey like? Same thing as competitive or what? Speaker 1
Wait. There was something that came in this clip before that I don't know why I'm blanking on it. Speaker 0
Do you wanna run it again? Speaker 1
Did anyone else see something? Oh, there we go. That's it. Speaker 0
The stretch? The stretch. Speaker 0
Yeah. He's, like, trying to loosen up his quads there. Speaker 1
And, like, again, there's another thing. Like, this this is prominently shown in of them stretching like that. And I don't know if anyone else's Instagram started showing them hockey stuff, but, like, Speaker 0
Oh, yes. Like, it's It came like hockey stuff. Speaker 3
But I'm also but Speaker 2
I'm also sure that Jared's well aware that it looks like he's fucking the ice. Speaker 3
Mhmm. I was gonna say, that's why For sure. Speaker 1
This is intense. Speaker 3
Don't date slush. You just take them down. Yeah. It's a nice view. I yeah. Respectfully. Try Speaker 9
to work with what we got, bro. Speaker 1
Okay. But why doesn't he wear this that shade? Speaker 6
He's fucking over with, bro. Speaker 2
Because he doesn't have Speaker 6
it just to get it in men's pocket. Right? It's women's talking, like, same things as competitive. Speaker 0
That. See, this something hold on. This, chirp about the Speaker 2
women's hockey being Speaker 0
less competitive Oh, yes. That's a lot of the misogyny he has in common with coach. Speaker 0
So, like, I okay. We're back into fanfare territory here. I thought for a long time, I thought that we were eventually gonna get a reveal that Shorezy is coach's biological son with Barb. Speaker 3
Oh, lord. Okey doke. Jesus. Speaker 0
And that Riley and Jonesy were his bastard blood flows from when he was slutting around senior triple a. Speaker 3
Wait. But you yourself have said that Shorzy is younger than Riley and Jonesy. Speaker 0
Yes. Yes. So, like, he would have had Riley and Jonesy previous, and then, you know, he's got his wife, Barb, who finally gives him a son. Speaker 1
And they get rid of him. Oh Speaker 0
Yeah. The Well, we did like I said, before Shorzy came out, we found out that he was a orphan. Right? This is what I thought we would get. I I thought it would be bloody Shakespearean. Speaker 2
This is this is up there with, like, knocking up the Mennonite girls theory. Yeah. No. It's no. Speaker 6
it's a hundred percent Speaker 0
That's possible. Speaker 1
They give him up for adoption then? Speaker 0
No. Like I said, this was before it got shot. Okay. Speaker 3
Okay. Moving on. Speaker 2
Oh. Sorry, Dave. First, to Speaker 6
the campaign, boys. Fucking get involved. They didn't look like that from the Hunger Games. I'm gonna call you cuteness, Everdeen. You like edamame? Speaker 2
Short shit, cuteness. Speaker 6
You just handle like a fucking girl, bird hit. Speaker 6
No. You're not. Are you really? Speaker 2
Holy fuck. And what's your favorite kind Speaker 6
of pizza cuteness? Mine's pizza ass. Short chips. Good chip cuteness. This? Woah. We should change our Facebook status. It's complicated. I would smash Susan Speaker 6
card fucking yesterday. Thirty four. What's one plus one, you big dumb fuck? Fuck you, you fucking ugly bud. Snow fuck, you dumb fucking asshole. I'll stake you in the face. Speaker 6
Are you even fucking trying? You can try it. You can try. Hey. You're hammered, Danny. Holy fuck. You light your stuff and breath on fire. Come on, bro. Give me the item. Item. Give him one. Alright. Dude, give him one. Give it to him. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? What are Speaker 3
you gonna do? What are Speaker 6
you gonna fucking do? Hey. That's the worst player on our team. You got one fucking job. You're fucking awesome. Holy fuck. You fucking suck. You're so fucking bad. Good night, sweetie. You fucking tell me. Holy fuck, bud. Fucking embarrassing. Hey, Scholte, when's your day with the cup? You take me to a fucking pow wow or what? You're nervous. I'm a Malorie tribe. Sell me fucking harder, boys. Speaker 3
You're a first place club beating a team that's come together a week. You're a healthy scratch in the last place club in the no show. Speaker 0
Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Are there. Speaker 3
I just Grab your ice press. Speaker 6
A little note in the mail remind you how fucking useless you are. If you need Speaker 9
it, I'm getting this time, you fucking poser. Speaker 6
Can I grab your email? Oh, I just got it from your mom. Oh, you're Tom? How's that? Are you going him? I'm going. Are you going him or are you going me? It's too in town. You ever thought about it? Like maybe you're skipping a fucking meal or two or someone stole my breakfast sandal. Speaker 0
It looks like it was you. Speaker 6
You even fucking crossover, you big fat butt. Speaker 0
We gotta call that the Kiso special from now on. Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Definitely. Speaker 3
So this is this is like, he's gonna get you this entire fucking scene. Right. Speaker 0
Doesn't matter how long. He's gonna get you. Speaker 3
He's gonna get yeah. Yeah. This is this is, in my opinion, the foundation of Shorzi hockey. Like, this is it. Speaker 3
on the ice. Well but we this is the first time we see him on the ice. Yeah. And he's he's skating, he's scoring, he's chirping, and it's like classic shit that we're we're hearing. So I script I wrote out the things because I wanted to remember them, but I also wanted us to be able to, like, look at them. Just see that's the worst player on our team. You got one fucking job. You're fucking awful. Holy fuck. Speaker 3
I can just hear him like that's just Shorzy. Speaker 3
This, in my opinion, this is when it happens. This is when Shorzy starts. Speaker 2
I I like the fact that that what? I mean, eventually, they're down six at the end of the game, and, you know, Shorsey's hasn't waned in the slightest. I mean, he he's he's still giving it. I mean, they're getting they're getting curb stomped, and he's he's still out there, shoring it up. And it's like you know? Some guys would, like, you know, win. That'll shut him up. Not this guy. Not this guy at all. Speaker 0
this is an exhibition game, essentially. Right. You know? So it doesn't count really. Like, yeah, sure the Irish are back, but just for this, literally. Speaker 1
He knows his role. Speaker 0
Love our role, boys. Love our role. Speaker 3
A stick budget is established here. Oh, yeah. Stick budget Speaker 3
Useless. Yep. The first time he says useless, Speaker 0
Fucking useless. Speaker 3
The line is you're a first place club beating a team that's been together a week, which is very you're a healthy scratch on a last place club in the no show, hang them up. Speaker 0
fucking harder. You're the pride of your community. Right? All in is you use it. Speaker 3
Yep. That's fiction. Don't get confused and Speaker 2
sucking your own dick. Speaker 3
Yeah. Can you even cross over, you big fat fuck? Like, it's just this is the good stuff. Oh, yeah. So so this is the end of part one. Yeah. Speaker 5
This is the end of Shorzy part one. Speaker 2
I will say in retrospect, though, Kase, is Yeah. Looking back I mean, yes, having seen Shorzy, you see this episode and the way it goes, and at least from a, a bare bones thing you go, well, hell, yeah. You could make a spin off about this guy. No one could see it at the time. Right. Speaker 2
they were like, or or they're gonna do a about Shorzy? But now you're like, yeah, man. You can make a you can make an you can make a show about that. Speaker 3
Yeah. Erin, thoughts? Speaker 1
Well, on that last scene or the picture that I'm viewing right now? Speaker 2
No. Anything. Hey, everybody. No. I have to watch stuff right Speaker 3
now. Now. Yeah. All of the butts. Not just yours alone. Riley and Jonesy too because I'm an equal opportunity Speaker 0
person. Is way any better in series four. So or series five. Speaker 1
Right. Who bore it better? So just the I don't know if it's a hot take for the last scene. Like, he still has not showcased his his, like, hockey skills. Like, he has or maybe maybe I'm I'm misunderstanding. Like, his hockey skills are that the the putting people down and and making sure that they're in their place and Yeah. As it is. Like, that's his hockey. That's his that's his essential being. Speaker 0
You you see them all effectively maneuvering the puck and stuff, but you don't see him actually pulling off any, like, super amazing plays. Right? They're all Mhmm. It's just really basic Speaker 0
fundamental hockey. Well, wait. Speaker 1
It's directed towards the other team. It's not directed towards him. Speaker 3
I I cut out a lot of hockey friends. Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. No. I know. Speaker 1
I Is the is the chirping directed to his team, or is he starting to to start hitting it towards the other team? Speaker 3
No. He's He's all Eagles chirp. Speaker 2
Yeah. Right. So, like, Speaker 1
we're seeing a difference in his style. Speaker 2
Yeah. Essentially, you know, Shorzy on the ice is you know, he has, I mean, for want of a better term, a code of ethics. You know? You know? You you you save your ass chew ins and your chirps and, you know, your horrible things you say to your teammates for the locker room. Speaker 2
Out on the ice, well, that you know, that's that all your vitriol goes to the opponent at that point. Speaker 0
Well, I mean so he does get mad at his own goalie, and he'll smash his stick over the the goal. Here's Speaker 2
the thing that's the times he gets emotional beyond his own control. Speaker 0
Yes. Yeah. Here's the thing. We even in the scenes that you cut out, Case, when we see Shorzy handling the puck, and we see him making some very excellent passes, Mhmm. Team player. See him put one away. Speaker 1
But he's the team player. Speaker 3
You don't have Right. Speaker 1
Right. Like, so, Austin, that's true, but he does he have to put it away, or is it you know, is he starting to Speaker 0
Is actually a debate. Right? Like, do you want the grinders? Do you want the guys who manufacture plays? Or do you want the guy who scores and then sell these huge even though it took three guys to set him up for that shot? Speaker 2
Right. I mean, it's the it's the old cliche. He's the, what do you call it? The, the intangible guy. You know? Yeah. You you can't really put a name on what he brings to it, but you gotta have it. And, you know, I I can see him doing that, just the, you know, just the workhorse. My take on it is I always likened Shorzy to the verbal psychological equivalent of a goon. You know? Whose sole job basically is to Yeah. Speaker 0
It's to get into other people's heads. Speaker 2
Yeah. And and to protect the, you know, the phenoms or the the high scoring shooters. You're the numbers guys. You know, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna put a hard check on, you know, our our, you know, number one guy. Well, then I'm coming after you. And, you know, you know, if somebody starts in on their shooter from, like, a, like, a verbal standpoint, you know, and they're probably not wired that way. They've just been shooting goals at, you know, laundry baskets their whole life. They've never really developed that. They've always probably been the best player in whatever team they played on. They're probably not built to handle that kind of onslaught of psychological thing, but, hey. Sure as he is, he'll take care of it. Mhmm. Speaker 0
Yeah. Sure as he is psychological warfare Speaker 1
Mhmm. On two legs. Mhmm. Speaker 0
Well Yeah. That's definitely something he brings to the club, but he also you know that man has way more a's than he has goals. Like, if he's Oh, yeah. Goal, it's purely by luck. Is this the first time we're actually Damn. Is he feeding the poke to men who can score? Speaker 1
Is this the first time we're actually seeing Speaker 1
Is this the first time we're actually seeing him on the ice? Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. Hundred percent. Because other than branch as a Excuse me. Sorry. Speaker 5
Sorry. I'm trying to finish my sentence. Speaker 3
I'm saying, like, the only other time we saw it was Speaker 3
Like, what Asom just said. Yeah. As a rest. Yep. But not as a player. Yep. Yep. So the the whole the whole summary of this is, yes, there is a Shorzee that is not Shorzee, but he shows up pretty freaking quickly, and it's only going to increase. So thank you guys for doing this with me. We're I think we're, like, over ninety minutes now. Woo Speaker 2
know. The wonder to him, Speaker 1
grow. Can I just say, like, does he show up, or does he grow up? Sorry. Kinda trickling Speaker 3
the girls. Out next week. Speaker 3
We will find out next Speaker 3
Same bat time. When we cover seasons eight, nine, and ten. Yeah. So, going back to country music awards, big news this week. Sundarts has been released on streaming. It's like charting or whatever. Speaker 3
There's an LP. There's a record. Speaker 0
Yep. There's a record. There's a vinyl. I ordered one. Speaker 3
Who has ordered the record? Speaker 0
Shows up, I'm gonna make it everyone's problem. Speaker 2
Yeah. I can imagine. Speaker 1
Looking forward to it. Speaker 3
That's fantastic. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Alright. So next week, we're gonna be looking at eight, nine, and ten. So, study up. Everybody do their homework. I'm gonna do my homework, and we'll take a look at the transition from Letterkenny Shorzy to Shorzy Shorzy in a in a real deep, deep way. It's It's gonna be great. We're let's do final thoughts. Erin, final thoughts. Speaker 1
This was super fun. Like I said, I was a little nervous in the beginning, but just it's been very interesting kind of watching that progression. Also love the discussions that we have. Love the the chat that has been going on. Really appreciate all of it. So thank you for this. I literally cannot wait till next week. Speaker 3
Mhmm. Chase. Or awesome. Sorry. I forgot my owner. Awesome. Speaker 0
Yeah. No. I you call this, like, academic level deep dive into a character. I'm like, this is the shit I do for fun. Where's my fucking degree? Holy fuck. No. I I like Erin, I have been loving this. I cannot wait until next week, and I think next week will really reveal the fact that Jared has always wanted to tell the story of. And there has indeed been a plan, if not an or an intention, if not a plan all along. Speaker 2
It would be funny if, like, Letterkenny was nothing more in the grand scheme of things that means doing in to get short you made? Speaker 0
No. I don't think that's it. Speaker 3
I don't know if that's PC, but Speaker 5
you said it, buddy. Speaker 0
I think he manufactured his opportunity, though. Speaker 2
Oh, exactly. Definitely. Speaker 3
I kind of agree with the first initial, like, grab your throat, grasp your pearls message, that, yes, it is. Listen. Jared has always wanted to make the perfect hockey show. He's talked about that. Like, this is not this is not new news. Now I think I do think Letterkenny is the vehicle that got him to Shorzy. Is that the reason he did Letterkenny? No. Like, it's a mix of both. Right? Like, it's it's what Awesome's saying about opportunity and taking, you know, taking control and taking advantage of that opportunity. But also, he knew he wanted to do this. Like, he I mean, it's twenty fifteen. Speaker 0
I think In twenty fifteen, he said, I want to be the John Wayne of hockey films. Speaker 3
I think from the minute he introduced Shorzy on screen, he wanted Shorzy to exist. Yeah. Like, I think the minute he introduced Shorzy, Shorzy, as we know it, was already in his head. He already had that plan laid out. So that's early. That's season one episode four. One. Do you know what I'm saying? Like Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
I hear what you're saying. Speaker 2
I mean, the first time Speaker 3
I'm not saying You Speaker 2
know, there's a modicum of the success with the letter Kenny. You know? Invariably, somebody, NewMetric Crave, somebody is probably going, this is great, Jared. This is I mean, I mean, this is really this is really a great success. You know, which you got any more ideas? I mean, what do you got next? And, I mean, at, you know, at that point, sure, I mean, Jared's just basically sitting on g waiting on o. As a matter of fact, I do have an idea. And, you know Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. And you've already seen some of it. I mean, it's it's I'm not saying it's a backdoor pilot or anything, but, I mean, he had the stuff to show, powers that be people in charge to say this guy. Speaker 0
So I think when the possibility became real, like, really real Speaker 0
Was when Jared initially signed that first forty episode deal with Belle. Mhmm. And that was whilst they were making series five. Speaker 3
And that makes sense because season five is where Shorzy amps starts to amp up. Right? Like, from one to three Speaker 3
Just a one hit wonder, and then season five comes along. And now all of a sudden, he's got more lines. It's more you know, he's it's not like season sixes and certainly not to the extent that season seven is. But it's definitely it's definitely fleshed out more. So that makes a lot of yeah. Speaker 0
Here's the thing. They announced the deal whilst they were Speaker 0
be five. So I think they got ahold of five. They saw the script. They saw that Jared was trying to amp up Shorzy, and they're like, okay. You've got ideas. You you you can produce stuff for us that is stupid successful. Here's forty more episodes. Show us what you can do with forty episodes. Speaker 2
I'd love to know that I'm gonna say And the thing that crossed my mind when we were watching tonight was always part of me wonders about four. You know, Jared just, you know, doesn't put in there. I'll always wonder if, like, you know, production companies are going, hey. What happened to the, the the already talking guy who who you don't ever see his face. What happened to him? Oh, you like him. Okay. Speaker 1
Or was it to see what the Speaker 3
This makes the heart ponder. Speaker 1
The fans yeah. The fans like, oh, wait. What are you Speaker 0
missing, dude? Belle and Crave have been aware of the subreddit and similar fan spaces the entire time because we make a lot of noise. So, like, even right from the start of the very beginning, we had people from Bell and Crave contacting the sub for stuff. Speaker 1
That's kinda cool that they're listening to fans like that, though. Speaker 0
Yeah. It is. As long as they don't do that thing where they go, oh, no. The fans have predicted our storyline. Therefore, we must introduce a new twist that is not thematically relevant or true to the character development we have done so far. Speaker 2
But we've gotta throw them a sword, man. Speaker 0
Don't fucking do that. But yeah. You know, they they do appreciate the fact that we're all so passionate about it, and they are aware Speaker 0
keep an eye on it. Speaker 1
You know? There's passion because we're creating an episode on Jess Shorzy. Right? Like, there's there's love. Speaker 0
Multiple, multiple guests. Speaker 3
I feel like that that was acknowledged long before this humble Yeah. I mean little idea. Yeah. Yeah. That's You know what I'm saying? Like Speaker 3
Real life and and the podcast and the show, there's no the lines are very blurred. So we're doing final thoughts. Trace. Speaker 2
This was fun. I won't lie. I did little to no homework on this. Speaker 2
And but the I I I'm still in love with the concept, Casey. It was to see it, and it and it's full chunk, devoid of everything else, just the character, just the words, just the is you see things you didn't see before. Especially when it's boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You're like, okay. I'm seeing thing. I'm seeing the trends. I'm seeing how it's going, how it's climbing, how it's, you know, evolving when you remove it from all the extraneous stuff. Because, you know, like everybody else, I just thought Shorzy was just a a funny little flippant blurb periodically in episodes. Didn't give it much thought. That's funny. That's cool. But when you broke it down and, you know, you put it all together, you're like, this someone was thinking deeper on this, and it's it it's very interesting to see, and I am really stoked for next week because Mhmm. Speaker 2
week went so well. And I can only imagine it's gonna get better with, you know, becoming, and I can't I can't I can't keep not saying it was he wasn't by the end of letter Kenny, he was not a one dimensional character. Everybody said, how are you gonna make a spin off of a one dimensional character? No, man. He hadn't been a one dimensional character since, you know Speaker 2
Five. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Yeah. He's he's grown, and you really see that when it's you just see all the in a row, and that's chef's kiss. That was brilliant. Brilliant, guys. Good job. Let's do let's do it again next week. Speaker 3
Well, I I just put it all together. It's Jared's and the whole team's brilliance. I really appreciate you guys going along for this ride because I did feel a little crazy. I didn't look at it for a while because I was like, this is insane. Nobody should be doing this. Nobody should be spending their time on this. But I loved hearing you guys see what I've been seeing for a while and just really enjoyed, like, the surprise on some of your faces when I can't see your face awesome, but I know you were surprised at something. But, like, just to be able to to see you guys sort of realize some of these things is great, and I hope the listeners are also feeling that vibe. You should go back and listen. I'm actually gonna put a cut list together and send it to Al, by season and time. If you wanna do your own supercut, or just watch these scenes so you can go back and and get an idea of what we're talking about to get ready for next week. So yeah. Thank you guys for doing this. I appreciate you. I miss hanging out with you guys. I miss doing this thing. And, yeah, that's gonna be it. We're gonna close it out tonight with a song that I'm just randomly picking from the TPS Letterkenny list. It's called Everyone Looks Like Everyone, and you can't hear that yet, because I'm not sharing my sound. One job. Let's see if you can hear it now. Speaker 2
It's the wheels are covered. Speaker 6
one. For no one. And plans are making me. I'm paralyzing to you. And plants are making me. And plants are making me. Speaker 3
That is all we have for tonight. Speaker 0
No one looks like ever Speaker 3
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