TPS254: An Interview With Ashley Nay
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The gang at The Produce Stand are joined by Ashley Nay, hair-stylist to the YEWniverse to chat about Letterkenny, Shoresy and what makes a good mullet.
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Met the you heard the man. It's the produce stand, your favorite source for universe. I'm all your host, Tanya and Victor on the mics. Unfortunately, Matt had a family commitment. But tonight, we're talking about universal hair. And just like Dola, we're feeling blessed tonight to introduce tonight's guest panelist, and she is joining us. She's an award nominated hairstylist who's worked on dozens of Canadian film and television productions, including Cardinal, The Sinner, Trickster, and Indian Horse, but we all know and love her as a hairstylist to the universe. Please join me in making some noise for Ashley. Who wants Speaker 2
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This team will never lose again. Speaker 4
Welcome to the produce stand, Ashley. Speaker 1
Hey. Thanks for having me, guys. It's awesome. Speaker 4
Where are we where are you speaking to us from? Speaker 1
I live in Rutherglen. It's about twenty five minutes east of North Bay in Northern Ontario Northeastern Ontario. Oh, Speaker 4
okay. You're you're way up there then. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 4
Very nice. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 4
Are you are you working right now, or what's going on? Like, on on a on a a film or whatever. Speaker 1
No. I'm in prep right now Okay. Or, or, something. Speaker 4
Okay. Yeah. Well, you don't have to tell us if you if you're not allowed. So where are you originally from? Speaker 1
I was actually born in Nova Scotia. Okay. Speaker 4
I Speaker 1
was born in Windsor, Nova Scotia, lived in Newport. I'm a military brat, so then I moved to Gander, Newfoundland after that, and then my dad got posted to North Bay. North Bay is the Canadian NORAD bays. Right. So retired here. I stayed here ever since or in the area anyways. Speaker 4
So of the of all the places you you lived, North Bay was like, oh, I gotta stay here. Speaker 1
I mean, it's, it's fine. Mhmm. I love it in the area. Sure. There's definitely, like I would actually love to go back to Nova Scotia. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
But, yeah, it works. It's, it's nice. I don't know if you guys have I know you're in Sudbury in North Bay a little bit further, but Speaker 2
it's we have a Speaker 1
pretty massive lake here. Like, the waterfront's beautiful. It's just like a nice it's a nice spot for sure. Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, I've never been up that far. Victor, I think you have, though, haven't you? Speaker 2
I the Sioux is as as far as I went. Speaker 1
The Sioux is way further than me. Yeah. Speaker 2
Yeah. So and the Sioux was incredible. Like like, seriously, when we went there, it was to go to the Agua, Canyon. There's a train you can take to the Agua Canyon. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly, which is incredible. But when we were there, we realized the Sioux itself is just an incredible city, and we fell in love with it. And we're seriously talking about maybe retiring there. Like, it's it's a Speaker 1
beautiful That's fun. Speaker 4
Yeah. Wow. I I mean, because of all the trains. Well, Brooke, Casavan lives up in that area, doesn't he? Yep. He's in Speaker 1
Yes. He lives in North Bay. Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. We had fun, interviewing him. I don't know if you listened to that one. But, do you do you see him around a lot, or or is it, Speaker 1
not really? We're like I I think I'm a generation ahead of him. Sure. But, I actually went to when Dolo was coming through, like Right. He came through North Bay in Sudbury. So then there's this little bar restaurant called the Moose in North Bay. So we got to go watch Dolo, and he was he was part of the the group that put that on, Speaker 4
which was Speaker 1
really fun. Speaker 4
Yeah. That was his, c that his release party back in June, right, for Speaker 1
Going Gold? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 4
How was that? How amazing was that? Speaker 1
It was fun. Yeah. It was a lot of fun. He actually came to my shop so I could give him it starts my dog. It starts Speaker 4
my dog. It's alright. The dog is Speaker 1
So I give him a haircut before a show. Speaker 4
Why not? Well, he's like Yeah. You're the one who knows his hair the best, probably. Speaker 1
He literally sat down. He was like the usual, you know. It was perfect. Speaker 4
Yeah. Well, you bring up the hairdressers hairdressing or hairstyling. I mean, first of all, how what do you want me to refer to? Like, is it insulting to say hairdresser or no? Speaker 1
If not, hairdresser is fine. Hairstylist is fine. Yeah. It's like I think hairdresser was like I could be super wrong on this, but I think barber was, like, for men's cuts. Hairdresser was for women's cuts and styling, and then hairstyling sort of incorporated everything together. Sure. But I could be talking completely out of turn. But, you know Speaker 4
So is this always something you you like to do you wanted to do, or, how did you get into it? Speaker 1
I was the kid who used to, like, cut the dog's hair and cut, like, all my Barbie's hair, like, everything. If it had hair, it was coming off. Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 1
Cut my own hair, like, actually didn't fuck it up when I was a kid. So, like, maybe that was some sort of, like, sign. And I always wanted to so I went to hairstyling school or cosmetology school in two thousand and five, I think. And it was funny. On our first day, we were doing, like, a a sort of, like, introduction to everyone and finding it whatever wants to do and, like, what they wanna get out of it and all of that. And my the first thing I said was, like, I really, really wanna do hair for, like, film and television or, like, editorial or something fun like that. Right? Not just salon wear. Right. Speaker 4
So you knew right away that that, like, not only hairstylist, you wanna be hairstyles to the stars. Speaker 1
Totally. Yeah. But Mhmm. Living in Northern Ontario, I was like, that's never gonna happen unless I move to Toronto. Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 1
Right? Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
And then fast forward however many years, one of the it was it was about I think it was twenty, twenty twelve. Mhmm. There was a show coming to North Bay, and they needed assistance, like hairstyling assistance. It was one of the one of the first, tax like, NOHFC tax credit shows in the north. Mhmm. And, they reached out to the school, in North Bay to be like, hey. Like, do you have anyone who wants to even try this out or whatever? And the same teacher that I've had remembered that I wanted to get into film and television, so she passed my name all onto them, Speaker 4
got me in. Speaker 1
Yeah. It was awesome. Speaker 4
Perfect. Speaker 1
Absolute shit show of a production. It was awful. I found out halfway through I was actually volunteering for it. It wasn't a paid position. Speaker 4
Oh, no. Speaker 1
I had to have also didn't know. So, like, she was pissed. She's also like, you can leave if you want. Like, I totally understand. Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
And I was like, no. Like, I really wanna see this through. Like, you know, and now I know it's fine. So she got me on the next show. She said she promised she would bring me on her next production so she could show me what a real show sort of ran like and which is awesome. Her name was Renee Chan. She lives in she's in Toronto. She's a a Naybet hairstylist. Mhmm. And the show she brought me on was in it was in Sudbury. And I remember getting a call sheet the night before my like, the first day of filming, and it said Ryan Reynolds on the call sheet. And I was like, there's no fucking way. Like, this is impossible. Right? Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
And Rosario Dawson. So second show ever. Speaker 4
So The Captive, it was called. I'm Speaker 1
Yes. Yeah. Exactly. When we were shooting it, it was called Queen of the Night. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
I remember they changed it to The Captive. I can't remember if that was the working title or if it was just that they changed it. Right. But yeah. So, like, that was a bit of, like, an eye opener kind of for me where I was just like, wow. Like, Sudbury's got, you know, a big production going on. Speaker 4
Sure. Speaker 1
It was McGoyan, who he directed it. Oh, was Speaker 4
it? Wow. I didn't yeah. Okay. I see that now. Yeah. Speaker 1
And then, I met another hairstylist on that show, and, you know, turned into more work for me, and it literally snowballed from there. And I've been really, like, fortunately steady, ever since Speaker 4
Amazing. I love it so much. So, I mean, I was gonna one of my questions was gonna be who's the most famous person you've done hair for, but would that be Ryan Reynolds? Or can you think of somebody I didn't Speaker 1
I was just, like, an assistant. I didn't actually tint his hair. I was just on his on a set with him. Speaker 4
Sure. Speaker 1
I mean Speaker 4
Like, I'm looking at here. You you were worked on something called Banksters. Speaker 1
That wasn't that was the first show I ever did. Speaker 4
That was the first one? Okay. So we won't met but Alan Thicke was on that show. I mean, that he's a big fucking deal, especially up in Canada. Yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 4
Did you did you get to meet him? Or there. Speaker 1
Yes. Yeah. He was actually he was he was pretty fun. He was, like, just, obnoxious, and I loved it. I just I love obnoxious people. So, we got along great. But Speaker 4
Yeah. Also, Laura Vandervoort was on that show as well. Speaker 1
Yeah. She was on that. She was also on I worked with her again on v wars. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
And I think there's something else maybe in between. She's lovely. She's such a sweetheart. Speaker 4
Oh, that's good to hear because we we enjoyed her on Smallville for sure. Speaker 1
Nice. Good. Speaker 4
Yeah. And, I mean so so you can't think of, like, who the most famous person might be that, you've, had your Speaker 1
your Speaker 4
hands in their hair and going, I can't believe well, first of all, do you get starstruck? Like, when you walk into a trailer and go, hey. I know that person. Do you ever get, like Speaker 1
There's like, I feel like I'm I'm not as starstruck as, like, some people are, so I feel like that's sort of what makes me good at my like, just good in that kind in this industry is that, like, yes. It's very cool that I get to work with these people and but I'm not, like, you know, like a tabloid reader celebrity lover type thing. Like, I'm just I wanna go there and make some cool shit with people and, you know, go home at the end of the night. Speaker 4
Oh, I'm looking right now at Brooke Shields, Flower Shop Mystery. Speaker 1
I had heard of that show. Speaker 4
Okay. Because Brooke Shields, that's a that's a pretty big fucking deal. Speaker 1
Yeah. She was really sweet too. She was a kind of woman who she didn't wanna be like, they I think that they originally had put her at, like, some, like, lake house somewhere in North Bay. Mhmm. And she made them like, she made production, put her in the same hotel as the crew because she wanted to be able to have a drink with them at the end of the night and, like, chill with them and, like, all that. She was pretty down to earth for sure. The the first I wanna say, like, one of my first sort of starstruck moments Speaker 4
was Speaker 1
when I did I did a show called anti birth. Speaker 4
Ah, okay. I was about to get to that one too. Yeah. Speaker 1
Natasha Lyonne. And I saw that, and I was just like like, she's just such a cool chick. She's super fun. She's very talented. Speaker 4
Yeah. We we love her in that, what's that detective one that we something fit poker face. She's great in poker face. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was a lot of fun. That was a cool show. It was, like, a really interesting basically, she gets, like, impregnated by, like, aliens. She doesn't know how she got pregnant, and then she's it's just starting to grow inside of her. And then, all these weird things start like, her teeth start falling out, like, her nails start falling off, and she gets, like, just like she's being really rough looking. And then at the at the end, she ends up giving birth to it was actually, I think, the head of prosthetics, in a suit. It's like a full sized human came out of her and, like, you know, destroyed her, obviously. Speaker 4
Oh, wow. Speaker 1
That was a really fun that was a really fun show to do. It's bizarre. Yeah. I like I like the weird shit for sure. I do like I like fun. I like weirds. Cardinal is a blast to work on. I got to do all four seasons of that. Speaker 4
Well, talk about cardinal because that's a pretty big show up here or was anyway. Yeah. Who who's in it, and what was that one about? Speaker 1
So there's a a local author to North Bay who wrote a book series, of John Cardinal. Mhmm. And it was really cool when I when I heard first that season one was happening. I was just like, I've heard this book in high school. This is really cool. Like, this is actually something that, like, you know, I've known about and, like so that was interesting. Billy Campbell's, like, probably one of my favorite actors to work with. He was so much fun. He was just, like, super chill and down to earth. He used fucking Aveeno moisturizing lotion in his hair. Like, he was just, like, a weird dude. Interesting. He had sailboat in Lunenburg. Like, just a really cool Oh, wow. Cool guy. Yeah. He has, like, a cucumber farm, I think, in Norway or something like that now. But I haven't talked to him in a while, but he, it was all about So he's a a cop, and he's, like, investigating, like, all these different, like, deaths and murders. We did four seasons of it, and each season had, like, a different sort of vibe to it. We started in season one was shot in the winter, and day one of filming was minus forty two. It was Speaker 4
awful. Jeez. Speaker 1
Yeah. Cold. But, like, that's the one good thing about, I guess I mean, it sucks that it was that cold, but, like Yeah. You it's like the cold turned into, like, a character almost. Like, the winter turned into, like, that sorta sorta thing. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
The breath was real. The redness was real. Like, none of it was, you know, added on or and they also didn't have to hide it, which is nice, because there's nothing worse than shooting, you know, a a store or show in the cold, and the person's not allowed to look cold. Right? Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
Or vice versa you're shooting and, like, I feel so bad for, like, a lot of the Hallmark shows that film in, like, North Bay because it's middle of summer, and they're all wearing winter coats, wool coats, parkas, and sweating because it's, again, it's the middle of the summer. So all the snow is fake. It's easier to control for continuity purposes. It's you know? But it's probably awful. Speaker 4
I see a little bit of a Letterkenny connection here right away on cardinal. Dan Petrovich was in six episodes. Yeah. Was that your first time kinda meeting him, or was Letterkenny already happening by then? Speaker 1
No. I think no. Because Letterkenny was shooting while we were shooting cardinal on, like, late last season. Because I was stoked because I got to give him the mullet, and then he had to live with the mullet four letter penny. Speaker 4
Oh, interesting. Yeah. We were Speaker 1
perfect. Yeah. Like, it worked out perfectly for that. But he said because, like, when we were establishing his look Mhmm. It was whatever you give me, I have to to do on this show, and, like, they can't they can't touch it. They can't you know what I mean? Because, otherwise, that'll screw my continuity up, and that's not nice. But, yeah, it really works for him. Speaker 4
So when the when you have a new show that you're starting and and when you're head stylist, I guess, how closely do you work with well, first of all, who do you work with? Is it the showrunner? Is it the director in terms of, like, getting the looks for the characters and stuff? Speaker 1
Yeah. So, usually, like, you sort of discussed, like, with the director, with some producers, the showrunner a lot of times or the writer if they're if they're there on set. Right. And sometimes the actors as well, to have input on, like, what the characters are gonna look like. Sometimes the discussions happen, and, like, we haven't even cast anybody yet, so they don't even know what they look like. But they just have, like, a vision in their head of what they they wanna see. Yeah. But then it's like, you know, like, especially if we're doing it sort of remotely or, like, they're in Toronto and I'm up here. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 1
It's very, like now since COVID, actually, we've been doing a lot more on Zoom, but it used to be, like, just email and phone, to try and, like, you know, send photos and be like, this sort of a vibe I'm I'm getting. We'll get, like, lookbooks from directors. Sometimes I'll make a lookbook to send to them just to show what I'm sort of envisioning. Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 1
And they'll approve or deny or whatever. Yeah. Speaker 4
So you get a lot of input then on on that part of it. Speaker 1
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Which is nice. I like that creativity for sure and just being able to have, like sometimes it's nice to have a say. Sometimes it's nice to be told what to do. Mhmm. They're both, you know, both great, but the creativity is is really where where I like it for sure. Speaker 3
So that's your prep process then. Right? The the lookbook and and and choosing the styles. Do you ever have to change the style based on the actor's hair type, like, if they have naturally curly hair, or do you just, like, flip it and go to a wig? Or when does that process? Speaker 1
Depends on the show. Some shows won't they just they're they don't even care. They don't want a wig because they know it's gonna cost money and take time. And that's the very specific kind of character thing where they want this, you know, they want this to look like this. Yeah. That's the Speaker 2
So so for men with facial hair, is that do they is that do they take care of that themselves, or do they is that also part of your journey? Speaker 1
Men do take care of it themselves. Beards are actually the makeup department. Oh. Pretty enough. Yeah. So because it's facial grooming, I think, it's a weird one because, like, most hairstylists are more comfortable, with beards. We're trained. We have the resources to get the really good equipment and things like that. So, like, sometimes it it's a little weird if, I'm probably gonna get in trouble for saying this, but, I I sometimes feel it's weird that's a makeup artist's job, but all we can do is train them how to do beards. Right? Like, when I'm on a show, I usually talk to the head of department for makeup to decide, like like, if you wanna do the beards, it's totally cool. I'm very comfortable, and I love doing beards. So, like, I will absolutely take that off your plate. But I need to know so that when I'm scheduling my time in the morning, I know that I'm taking care of their head and their face if that's in that sense. Yeah. It's all we have, in that perspective. We're like, there's there's a show show that I'm having after season four. Speaker 4
I'm sure it was the other Speaker 1
shooting. The showrunner was talking to me actually about, facial hair and, just ways that he wanted it to change because I'll be going in for season two. I didn't do season one. So whatever was done season one, he just, I guess, wanted it to be slightly different from that. So we were talking about that, and I told him too that, like, you know, it it is technically the makeup artist's job. But, again, I will do it if if if they need me to. Speaker 2
The these are union kind of distinctions? Yes. In terms of okay. Yeah. Speaker 4
You don't wanna mess with that. You know? Yeah. Now in twenty so in twenty twenty four, I don't know if this, movie is out yet or not, but, you worked on a show called My Old Ass or Yeah. A movie called My Old Ass, starring Aubrey Plaza. I mean, she's a big deal. How is that? Speaker 1
Yeah. She's I'm I'm assuming you've maybe seen Parks and Rec. That's literally her. Like, that's her her in real life. Yeah. So she was a lot of fun. Mhmm. The whole show was a lot of fun. It was like, I can't wait to see it, actually. It's like this, you know, this group of girls, these friends end up going on, like, this, like, mushroom trip, and then she meets, like, the older version of herself who turns out to be this Aubrey Plaza. Mhmm. She was wigged in that movie actually too. We had to have a wig on it the whole time because wanted to look a little closer to, the hair color and style that, like, the number one had, the younger version of herself. Speaker 4
Where was this shot? I guess, is it suburb or trunk sorry? Speaker 1
Muskoka area. Speaker 4
Muskoka. Okay. Just So Speaker 1
it's, like, just south. But, basically Yeah. Was a production company that was going to shoot in the Toronto Union jurisdiction. Mhmm. And, we ended up, my business agent kind of, you know, like, helped them bring it a little bit further north so they could be under our contract instead. Speaker 4
Okay. So there's a lot of territorialism happening there. Right? Speaker 1
Absolutely. There is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it was as south as you could humanly be in order to be considered a northern show, which is Parry Sound. Wow. Parry Sound is an order line. Anything below Parry Sound is Toronto jurisdiction. Yeah. Speaker 4
Okay. Wow. That's crazy to see behind the scenes of all that kinda the mechanics of that. Speaker 1
Totally. Yeah. I actually sit on the board for, the local in, like, the Sudbury, North Bay, Parry Sound, Sault Ste. Marie, and Ottawa. We cover Holy. That part of jurisdiction. Yeah. So anything like north of Harry Sound North Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 1
Is us as far as Sault Ste. Marie and then as far as Ottawa. Speaker 4
That's a big area. Speaker 1
Big area. Speaker 4
Yeah. Lots of productions. Yeah. Amazing. Well, we're gonna get to, you know, why people are listening today. But first, I just wanna play a little clip here from somebody you might know. Speaker 0
As much as as people do on on film sets, you know, where they're five days a week, the days are usually twelve hours long, sometimes fourteen, sometimes sixteen. It's impossible not to become close, you know? Like, you see each other in all stages of the day, jacked on coffee, crashing from caffeine, sleepy after lunch, bedtime sillies mid afternoon, can't wait to get the day done, the joy of wrap after like a fourteen hour day. You see all those things. You get to know each other very well. But this crew is so tight that, you know, we often wanna keep hanging out at at the end of days. You know, there there's so many on this cast and crew or on this crew rather who have been with us since season one, and I miss them when we're between seasons. I think about them a lot. I check-in with them a lot. I really owe them all a great deal. Sorry if I'm, a bit repetitive in that sentence, particularly, but I owe them so much, and I care about them so much. They are invaluable to me, and and I work really hard to make sure that they know that on a day to day basis. Speaker 4
Now who is that? I believe that's that's Jared. I saw you kind of, smile when when he he's talking about how close this crew is. Is it true? Is it really that close? Speaker 1
Yeah. It's super true. It's like like, he literally hit the hit the nail on the head with everything. Like, I love everybody on that set, every single person, Because it's also such a funny show, like, there's, like, like, everyone's very serious about their jobs, but there's, like, definitely a wave of, like, the unserious the sillies, like, things like that. Like, we get to kinda goof off as much as possible. Everyone's still very, very much attuned to their their their jobs, obviously. But, it's honestly like one of the it's a dream show for sure. It's the hours aren't as long as some shows I've done. The content is great. The cast is great. Everyone's so lovely. And the crew is just amazing. Like, we're literally the one thing I love about film the most is that, like, you can spend like, there are a lot of people in my, like, real life that I would never wanna spend twelve hours a day with. Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 1
You know what I mean? But, like, there's something about the people you meet on set. We're all, like, a little bit of our own type of weird. Every like, no personality is identical. Like, everyone is so different. It's a little bit of, like we're, like, a little weird band of misfits. It's it's really awesome. Mhmm. But Shorzy, for sure, was very everyone's just so cool. Everyone's amazing. I'm I absolutely miss them when I'm not working with them. Sure. Yeah. Speaker 4
So let's, you know, before we get into kinda, like, how what it's what's it like in on base camp because we got the pleasure of visiting you guys one time, and that was a lot of fun. But how do you how did you get the Letterkenny gig? We'll start there. Speaker 1
So interestingly enough, so I was verbally I was verbally hired to do Letterkenny season one. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
And then when the PM the man who was PM ing it found out that even though I was northern, I wasn't local, I lost that gig. Speaker 2
Uh-huh. Speaker 1
So I did not do season one of Letterkenny. They basically the union at the time was a different union. It was it was called Nabet. It was a Nabet show. They agreed to let Heather Manitowabi she's the she's been key makeup for all the Letterkenny's, all of the Shorzies. Mhmm. She could run the hair department as long as she didn't do, like, cuts and colors. So I came in at the top of the show to do, like, cuts and and the colors that we needed to do. There's a couple of extension pieces we had to color, but and then, came in halfway through to do, like, continuity haircuts for for cast. But yeah. So it was a few years, actually, other than my dog. My dog got to be on letter Kenny again. Speaker 4
Yeah. We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Yeah. Speaker 1
And then I forget what season it was I did after that, like, next. Okay. Yeah. I can't remember. It was so much so much fun. Like, it was it I felt like I'd never left type thing, and it just the new head of department that they'd gotten, it just, like, because she would ask me to, like, almost every single time if I would work it with her, but I was always busy on something else and which was unfortunate. But, yeah. Speaker 4
But once you got on that crew, you you became a, you know, part of the family. Speaker 1
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Speaker 4
And then when Shorzy started up, it was a no brainer just to bring everyone back, all all the crew. Speaker 1
Exactly. Or yeah. Most of the crew, like, from Letterkenny just, like, got swept right over to Shorzy. Mhmm. And if the stop broke, don't fix it. Right? Speaker 4
Yeah. So let's talk about kind of the day to day because like I said, we got to visit you. We got to visit base camp for Shorzy, and and, you know, Jared talks about, you know, how much time you guys spend there. But when you're done I mean, you're you're you're probably you're the the actors come in in the morning, get their hair done, and then go off to set. What do you do after that? Like, once they're gone, what what else do you do? Speaker 1
Oh, it depends on depends on how the schedule for the day works out. Mhmm. Sometimes you end up processing basically all of the cast at the top of the day, and then everyone goes to base camp, and then we maintain them on sets. Make sure their hair stays the same. Speaker 4
Right. So you'll actually go to set and then be there in case there's a hair emergency. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Speaker 1
Exactly. So, like, we have, like, we have our our set sort of kit that we will pack up, bring to set as just, like, bags with, like, every actor will have their own, like, personal bag that has their own comb and hair product and, like, that kind of stuff in it. Mhmm. And then, like, after we've rehearsed a bunch and then, are about to start shooting, we get to go and do what's called finals or, like, some people call it, like, final touches or last looks or whatever. That gives us a chance to go make sure that everyone still looks okay. They still have, like, their hair is in the right spot, and they still have lipstick on or, you know, like, whatever. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
And then in be so then we get to watch each take at the monitor so that we get to make sure everything's either sitting the same. That way we can watch to make sure something looks weird from, like, a certain angle. Because, like, if I'm standing in front of someone, their hair is gonna look different than if I'm watching them on the little monitors. Mhmm. Speaker 4
And Speaker 1
then they let us go in part way. Like, once we cut, we can go back in and fix anything, adjust anything that we have to. And, yeah. So we're on set. Someone there there's always a hair rep, and there's always a makeup rep on set at all times. If we have more, like, more batches of actors coming in, then, like, someone will be back at base camp, processing them, getting them through the works, and then someone will be on set, maintaining each actor that gets put to set. Speaker 4
Mhmm. Talk a little bit about, you know, Letterkenny. It ended, season twelve this past December. Very sad for everyone. For you, it must have been kinda strange for the crew though because knowing you had you were going on to Shorzy, what was that kinda last, you know, those last few weeks of shooting Letterkenny like for you? Speaker 1
I was doing mild ass while they shot the last season of Letterkenny. Speaker 4
You you weren't even on? Speaker 1
I wasn't even on that one either. Yeah. Speaker 0
Oh, wow. Speaker 4
The Are you kinda happy are you kinda happy you weren't there? Speaker 1
Like, it would have been really nice in a way to be part of, like, that Speaker 4
Sure. Speaker 1
Last last season. Right? It would have been really cool. But at the same time, I feel like it almost would have made it sadder. Yeah. Because to me, even though I knew it was coming to an end, I didn't get to experience, like, everybody's sadness around it. So, like, to me, it's just like I saw it. There'll be another one coming out next Christmas. You know what I mean? Like, it's not as Speaker 4
You didn't get that closure. Speaker 1
Heartbreaking. Exactly. Speaker 4
Interesting. We had, Bradley, Miller on, and we had fun asking him questions about base camp. Right? Because it's such an interesting place to be. It's a Totally. Yeah. So we asked some stuff like, for example, out of the letter Kenny cast, you know, whose trailer was the party trailer? You know, whose trailer, like, did people gather around? What what would you Speaker 1
say? On Shorzy? Or both. I mean, I don't really know for letter Kenny. I don't really remember, like Speaker 4
I don't remember his answer for that either. But, Speaker 1
Yeah. I remember being like, there was always, like, a lot of people outside, but I don't know if there was ever, like, a single area, like, someone's trailer they sort of stuck to. I find for Shorzy, it's definitely more like like Dolo's trailer is always, like, wide open, and, like, people are coming and going, and anyone can go walk on there, basically, if they're Speaker 4
It's very smoky in there, I bet. Speaker 1
A little bit. Yeah. It's a really nice smelling, base camp. I'll say that. For sure. Speaker 4
And I think he said that, Harlan's trailer might be the one with the loudest music. Speaker 1
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. He's literally, like he's always, always, always blasting tunes out of his trailer. It's fun. Speaker 4
Very cool. Yeah. So let's move on to some listener questions because of when we told people you were coming on, they all got really excited. So I've got a bunch of questions here. Oh, first question is for me, actually, because we did talk about this a little bit on on IG. One of the three legged puppers, in, in Leonard Kenny was was yours. Speaker 1
Yeah. So his name's Lego. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Of course it is. Speaker 1
And we So his full name is Legolas. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
But Oh my gosh. So I got him from a rescue down in, like, London, Ontario area. Mhmm. So he came with the name. I'm like, I'm not changing that at all. There's no way. So I think it was a season two or season three. Season two, I think. Speaker 4
Yeah. During the cookout. Right? When when the the natives Speaker 1
with the native fluid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, like, to make him feel sorry for them, they, like, brought out this three legged dog. And then That's Speaker 4
your puppy's. I know. Speaker 1
That's mine. Yeah. The first one was mine. So they he had a different name in the script because a friend of mine sent me the script, and she's like, you have a three legged dog. Like, you need to get on this. And then so I forget the name he was supposed to have, but I'm like, if you call him Lego, like, he'll actually come to you. So, like, they just kept the name Lego and, used it in the show. And then, the makeup artist on the at the the makeup the head department for makeup for that season got jealous because she also has a three legged dog. Speaker 4
Oh, really? Speaker 1
And she had the second one. So the little chihuahua, like, the little black rear chihuahua thing, I think they call them. Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 1
That that's sassy. But, yeah, Lego is, Speaker 4
Oh, is he still around? Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 4
Oh, there he is. Yeah. Speaker 1
That's so that's Speaker 4
so cool. Speaker 1
He's, a lot whiter in the face now. It's really crazy to see, like, even if I like, when I rewatch letter Kenny episodes, like, his face is black completely, and now he's just this, like, little old man. But he's still, like, he's fast. He can run up and down stairs. Like, nothing bothers him at all. He lost it really young. Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
Like, before me, like, I when I rescued him, he just had it removed. They figured he got hit by a car or something, which is, like, really weird in the sense that, like, as soon as I let him outside, he instantly wants to run to the fucking highway. It looks like he did not find his lesson at all. Speaker 2
So it's not a makeup and hairstyling accidents experiments. Speaker 1
Oh, no. Speaker 2
That's that's good since yeah. I mean, Speaker 1
that would have been a good story, though. You know, I like to tie in I always have the dog's hair is that one time I split and, you know Oh, that's a Speaker 4
hell of a slip. Yeah. Amazing. He's gotta be the most famous three legged dog. So just being on the Speaker 1
from the end about him, the office. Yeah. I love it. Great. Yeah. Speaker 4
Aaron from Chicago wants to know, which cast member would you trust to do your hair? This is a great question. I love it. Oh, boy. From either show. Speaker 1
I don't know. Speaker 2
Well, we know one of them has actual on camera experience. Speaker 4
This is true. Dolo. Yes. You like Speaker 1
Dolo, if you have it a pretty good go. I don't know about are we talking, like, cutting or, like, styling? Speaker 4
I don't know. You're the expert. You tell us. Speaker 2
Whatever scares you the most. Yeah. Speaker 4
Yeah. Because her question is about who would who would you let near your hair? Speaker 1
Like, I don't even let a lot of hairstylists near my hair. Oh, wow. It's trippy. Yeah. I've had some really bad haircut. It's not, it's not any I wish I could just, like, pop you know, like, what show is that? Return to Oz where, like, you can just, like, pop that off. Like, I could do that. My hair It'd be great. But I feel like Dolo would give it a pretty honest try. At least, like, even if it didn't work out that well, I feel like his heart's in the right place and he would do a good job. Speaker 4
When he does, Michael's head, he gives it a bit bit of a blow to get rid of all the hair off of that. That was so funny. Speaker 1
Favorite thing. I literally almost pissed my pants on set. Speaker 4
We're we're reviewing that episode tonight, by the way. Speaker 3
But I can't Were you on set set when that, when that I Speaker 1
had to be. I was like, I'm gonna have I'm gonna throw up. Like, if these guys fuck this up, like, I have to live with this for five weeks. Like Speaker 4
Well, I know I was thinking to myself too, that's one take. So, like, I know there's you get the giggles on set, and takes can get ruined just by somebody breaking. So was there, like, a lot of, like, you know, what's the word, like, psyching themselves up to not giggle during that? Because I gotta I gotta think it's it was so difficult. Speaker 1
Bunch of dry runs. What's that? We had a bunch of, like, dry runs Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
With, like, power so, like, clippers weren't, like so we had they used my set of clippers Right. For, like, like, the first scene Mhmm. The first haircut scene where it's just the strip because they plugged in. Because they knew if it wasn't plugged in, it wouldn't turn on. That was their only like, they're like, we trust that. Yeah. And then I had, like you have, like, guard protectors. So, like, that was on it as well just so I can get the motions in so that they knew how to hold the clippers. I had to sort of be there as their, like, consultant for you know? It was fun, but I was terrified, like, terrified. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 1
It was day one. Day one of season three. Speaker 4
Interesting. Speaker 1
We get everyone processed. We go to set, and this is the first like, basically, the first thing up. And I literally I don't think I've ever felt so nervous on set before. Like, it was just you know, luckily, Dolo's excellent, and he's good at what he does, and he didn't do a bad job. I whisked everyone else back off to base camp so that we could, like, sort of trim it down enough so that I was able to maintain it for those five weeks. Right. Because, like, it's as as much as it's just like a little swipe of hair, it has to be something that I can recreate every usually, every three to five days, I have to redo that strip Sure. On the on the show. Speaker 2
To keep it fresh. So Speaker 3
are there, like, a lot of photos that you have to take? Like because how do you memorize, like, how that was and what it needs to be look yeah. Speaker 1
Photos. All of my continuity photos, normally, it's just, like, front, back, and both sides, but I took them from, like, the top, like, a forty five degree angle so I could make sure where everything was lined up. Luckily, because most of them, like, the their hair is all, like, long enough Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
That there's a big difference between the shaved portion and the non shaved portion, so it's easy to follow kind of where it is. I use the same length every single time, so there was, like, just a little tiny bit of something. So they weren't, like, just, like, bald babies. You know? But, yeah, the it was it was wild. Speaker 2
Or Did any of them, have trepidation, or they were all in? Speaker 1
So when we were it was just before prepping season three. I cut Jared's hair in Sudbury, and we were just talking about it, because I was like, I thought it was pretty cool that, like, obviously, he trusts me enough as a as a person to, write in something so crazy hair wise into the show. And he was saying how, like, we were talking about, like, who he asked, who he wanted to ask. And we told me, like like, about Michaels. And I was like, there's no fucking way that that man's gonna shave his head. Like, there's no Speaker 4
He's not pretty boy. There's no way that Yeah. Speaker 1
You know, like, he's very, like, put together and, but now he was totally down. I think he got cold feet and then was, like, okay with it again. But, like, I wanna say there was somebody else who he he thought about asking, but then he said no. It might have been Fish. I don't remember. But Speaker 4
Well, I mean, Dolo's hair is kinda hard to do that with him in the Dredge. Speaker 1
Right? Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't even like, if it would be me, I wouldn't even ask because, like, dreads are there's such a it's such a long process. Like, the length of hair he has is literally, like, probably three times that. You know what I mean? Like Speaker 4
But I did notice that it like, the his sides and back were kinda more shaved than there was more coming off the top. Right? Speaker 1
Yeah. He has basically, like, an undercut. So, like, his dreads are only I wanna figure four across Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
And then everything else underneath is all shaved. Speaker 4
Right. Interesting. So, actually, this kinda jives with the the question from Jez from Perth, who's who asked, which of the sluts is the fussiest about his hair? Sounds like it's, McDonald there. Ryan McDonald? Speaker 1
Less this season. Mhmm. More in previous seasons, though, for sure. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
And, like, he's not I wouldn't call him, like, a diva or anything like that. Speaker 4
Uh-huh. Speaker 1
I love him so much. He's so much fun. Speaker 4
Sure. Speaker 1
He's very particular about how he likes his whole look and, like, the product he uses, which is great. I love that. It also gave me where all the dudes in the show are, like, pretty natural. You know, they don't require, like, a whole lot of anything. It gave me, like, a little bit of something to sort of construct. Yeah. I was really, really surprised when, when he agreed to shave shave that part of his head. And then we shaved the their heads fully at the end of the the season. Right. He has a really good shaved head. He had the perfect shaped head for Buzz. It was awesome. Speaker 4
Well, lucky for him because you you don't know. You don't know until after yeah. Exactly. Jez also asked, are any of them, are yeah. Are there any of them who wanna go the extra mile, like, you know, to to get something done? Like, we're, like, giving you carte blanche. Do whatever you want. Do something crazy if you want. Speaker 1
You know? I mean, for season three, that was almost, Ryan. Like, he sort of wanted, like, where we were doing the the shaving strips sort of like this section here, he wanted to do the whole thing. Like, really, for Hike, I had just, like, two parts of hair type thing. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
They squashed that really fast because they wanted it just to look like it was just the top. Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
But he was like I feel like he may have been, like, nervous about doing it in the beginning. But then once he was, like, getting into it, he was really, really getting into it. Like, we had a probably, like, an hour conversation while he was driving to Sudbury just about how crazy he would look if he had, like you know, like the guy from the Prodigy where he had, like, Speaker 2
more Yeah. Speaker 4
The reverse Mohawk. I mean, I I kind of refer these to these as reverse Mohawks even though they're not, but I mean yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. He was, like, full gung ho to go, like, to go to that length for it. And that was one thing that Jared said, when we were shaving, like, when I was cleaning him up afterwards, like, after because then, again, obviously, after we did the full head shave, we just take them back to the trailer and, like, clean everything up so they look good and it doesn't look weird and all that. And he was just so humbled by the fact that these guys were willing. He's like, no one's fucking done this. Like, no one just shapes their head on camera for, like, for movies. Like, this is you know? He was so blown away at the fact that, like, they were willing to get these stupid haircuts, wear them for five weeks, and then completely shave their heads afterwards. Like, he was really, really touched by that for sure. Speaker 3
So how did that storyline come to be? Was that something that that Jared birthed from his own imagination, or did you have input into, okay. Here's Speaker 1
what wrong. Speaker 3
That was it. Speaker 1
That was it. I wish I could take credit for that, but I can't. Yeah. It was, like, it was me reading the scripts and, like, getting into it. And I'm just like, what what's what's happening? And I was, like, reading more and more and more, and getting, like, more and more, like, excited, but also nervous because I was like, this is a lot for, like this is a big look for for a show like this because everything's obviously so, like, pretty standard and, like, pretty natural for the most part. They'd like the the most extreme haircut we've done so far is, like, other than the mullets, like, maybe, hitches, you know, his little Sure. His little long. Yeah. Well, Speaker 4
speaking of mullets, Casey from North Carolina asked, whose idea was it for the mullets in the shows? Was it was it a Jared Jared thing? Speaker 1
Yeah. That's a that's a hockey a hockey thing. Right? Like Speaker 2
I guess. Speaker 4
Yeah. I hate that they came back. I really do. Speaker 1
I love a good mullet as long as it's done right, and it's not a redneck mullet. Like, it has to have, like, a little bit of edge to it. And I feel like Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
The boys on this show had, like, enough edge to their mullets that, like, it just looked good. Speaker 4
It works. What makes a good mullet? Speaker 2
Does it I mean, Yarmar Yager makes a good mullet. Speaker 3
It's the sides. Right? Like, it's it's how the side yeah. Speaker 1
To to me, personally, like, you can have, like say, like, you have, like, a kind of longish whatever hair, and you just shave that, and it's completely disconnected. It's just really short and then long longer in the back, but, like, a little bit, you know, longer than the side. I like those kind of mullets. I don't like the ones that are, like, nicely blended. Like, you're trying to look like like Billy Ray Cyrus mullet. Speaker 4
Like, not that. So you prefer, like, Joe Dirt over Billy Ray Cyrus? Speaker 1
Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. I Speaker 2
love it. I love Speaker 4
it. Tobias from Missouri asked who had the best hair, but I think we we answered that. But, who's the most transformed in the makeup chair? He also asks. Speaker 1
I mean I Speaker 4
really think I mean, because meeting Harlan in person, he's got beautiful hair. Speaker 1
He does have beautiful hair. Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to do a whole lot to him. He just he bakes his baguettes. Yeah. There if he's not in a suit, his hair is down. Yeah. If he's in a suit, he wears in braids. He gets a little bit of dry shampoo and some smoothing cream just for, you know, to feel nice, and that's about it. Even, like, with braids or without braids. I feel like this season, especially the most transformed, like, Kalani, her that's not even that's not her real hair. That was literally, like, a fake. Yeah. So, like, just to kinda give her a little oomph, into her look, we decided to go with this. It's literally just like you put her hair in a bun and you pop this ponytail on top of it, and the whole thing is is is synthetic hair. It's just like drawstring shuts. Speaker 4
Interesting. Speaker 1
Just to give her something, like, a little bit more. And, same with, Natasia just to keep it easy Mhmm. Just because, like, ponytails like, it's as much as that the ponytail and ponytails are simple and all of that, If I can pop that ponytail off at the end of the night and, like, it's not getting damaged or, like, slept on or, like, you know what I mean? It just makes my job a lot easier. So you just top point down in the morning, cuts their process in half. It's it's Speaker 4
like you're reading my script. Am I sharing my screen or something? Because my next question was from Cassie in in Simcoe. She says, we've been told the indigenous actors and actresses had a lot of input to their looks. For Meade Meade's looks, where the, where did the inspiration come from her cute, unique hairstyles? I adore every single hairstyle she's ever worn on the show. Thank so you just said Meade's hair was a wig Yeah. Or an extension or Extension. Yeah. Speaker 1
Like a a piece. Yeah. Hairpiece. Yeah. Interesting. A lot of that, like, with especially with, like, there's certain discussions that, like, when I'm discussing hairstyles, the cast that I'll have, like, obviously, with production and all that. Mhmm. The idea for, like, even her ponytail was just sort of she wanted something a little fuller. I had two options, and it didn't stray too far from, like, what we already established her look as, like, in previous seasons because you don't wanna jump too far. Obviously, there can get kinda weird. So we just said, like, hey. Like, what do you wanna do? And she wanted to do, like, a bigger, more voluminous ponytail, and then did her her edges because she has these little baby hairs that always like, season one, they were just always sticking up. We could not get them down. Alright. So we went with them, and we just incorporated them into the hairstyle and made it work for us, gave her a cute, you know, a cute new look. And I find, especially where some of the costumes are so, like, elaborate and, like, like, really fun, I try to, like, like, before I try a new hairstyle and then for a different look, I always wanna know what the costume's going to be so I can either work with it or if there's something that, like, like, for Sieg when whenever she was wearing, like, super fun big earrings, we always had her hair pulled back because she wanted to show it off and be able to see it. Otherwise, it just gets lost. Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
And, also, she has curly hair too. So, like Mhmm. When you get your curly hair stuck in anything, like, it's a nightmare. You can't just pull it out and re brush it. It's it goes insane. So, like, the more we can keep her hair out of her accessories, the better for sure. Speaker 4
Very cool. Dennis from the UK asked, who's the worst for continuity? Oh, we're thinking we're thinking about this one. Speaker 1
Yeah. I'm thinking about this part. I mean, Goody's a toucher. Andrew, he's, like, very Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 1
There Yeah. Which is fine. Like, I'm not gonna get mad at him for like, I do it all the time. I can't like, I don't stop touching my hair. Speaker 4
Right. What was that? It was a Letterkenny episode where they're talking about Gordon Ramsay being a hair guy. So that's Goody. Goody just likes, you know, running his fingers through his hair. Speaker 1
Yeah. He just touches. Like, he's always you always see him touching his hair, and he might you know, like, I'm I'm I'm sure a lot of it is, like, a subconscious thing. So, like Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
My biggest thing on set is even when we're not shooting as I'm watching those boys in case they do anything crazy while they're, you Speaker 4
know related question, Trolley from UK. Did you ever have to admonish one of the cast for getting a haircut that messed up your planned look for the character? Speaker 1
No. No? No. I didn't think so. No. Speaker 4
Everyone's been pretty good about that? Speaker 1
Nah. I've definitely seen that on other shows before, though, where, like, you have someone's headshot or, like, a photo of them and, like, their hair is, say, like, long or just, like, amazing. And then they come in and it's short, and you're like, like, everything out the window. You know? Speaker 4
Or they were once a blonde, and now they come to set and they're red hat or something. Yeah. Speaker 1
Completely different color. Yeah. Which is why it's always so important. Like, in our prep process is, like, I reach out to cast Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
To get selfie like, current selfies. Don't send me your headshot. I don't want it. I want your current selfie, what you're using in your hair, like, things like that just so that I know what I'm getting myself into. And then that way, if I need to, like, like, say you you want extensions for the show, I now know what your your actual hair color is, not just based on Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
A headshot or doubling if you could double a person. Speaker 4
Casey from Virginia asked, tell me about the worst hair you ever had to fix or rescue. Doesn't have to be from Letterkenny or Shorzy. You know I love a good salon tale. That's Casey. She's Letterkenny Answers if if, you're wondering who she is. Speaker 1
Yes. Yes. I mean, I've definitely had to fix a lot in the salon environment. Okay. I used to work with a girl who, like I don't know what the I don't know. I don't know. I I don't even know. Okay. I shouldn't even say this, but she was so awful, and, like, unapologetically. Oh, like, so confident in it. Speaker 4
Sure. Speaker 1
Anyways, I gained a lot of clients out of this girl because she was just you know, she didn't I don't know if she just didn't understand how to do certain things. Like, color theory is very different as a hairstyle. It's not just, like, blue and yellow make green. It's, like, blue and yellow make green. Yes. But, like, there's also other colors hidden inside the hair and, like, things like that. And she one day, she completely lightened somebody out and then put black on top of them. And I'm like, I don't even under like, you guys aren't hairstylists, and I can see your faces. Like, you're on her. Like, why would you strip out everybody's, like, so all of someone's color just to put the absolute darkest thing on? And then she put, like, one weird piece of red, which just looked like tomato soup because it was so over processed. It was, like, flat and, like, awful. So I gained that client, which was nice. And then, same lady, like, turned turned a blonde girl green because, you know, like, that's that's a mistake that a lot of people make, usually not hairstylist, but, it is really easy to turn someone's hair green if you don't know what you're doing. So I was able to, like, fix her and save the day, I guess. But, trying to think of, like, set wise. I can't remember who it was or what show it was, but there was definitely someone that I had in my chair who used to cut their own hair and did not do a good job at it. Speaker 4
How could you? I don't understand how people can cut their own hair. I mean, unless you have a head like mine where it's Speaker 3
you're just shaving. Speaker 2
You cut Speaker 4
your own hair. Well, I shave it. Speaker 1
I just Speaker 2
shave it. Yeah. That's what salad bowls are for. Speaker 4
Yeah. You shave until you feel wood, and then you stop. Until Speaker 1
you feel nothing. Yeah. Exactly. If you feel hair, then you still got more to do. Speaker 4
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Alright. Is this Perfect. If it comes up, bring it up. But Joey from Colorado, he said because he was one of the our friends who came up with us that one time. He says, your trailer is top notch clean and organized. What in your life got you to be so meticulous? Speaker 1
I'm a details person. Mhmm. So every little detail, I just pay. And I think that's also what makes me, in my opinion anyways, good at this job and just hair in general is just the details. Like, I like to I'm very meticulous and, like, a little bit of a perfectionist. It probably comes from the ADHD, but, it's just a space like a trailer. Like, there's nothing worse than like, that's the first place that your actors go in the morning. Yeah. Right? So, like, it should be filled with coffee and good vibes, and it should be clean. It shouldn't be like, like, obviously, clutter is one thing, but you should never have a gross trailer. That's literally where, like, I do all of my sanitation is in that trailer too. So, like, the whole space has to be clean. Same with the makeup sides. Yeah. When we're doing our cleaning and things in there, like, we can't clean in a dirty space. So it's the cleaner everything is, the better we can do our jobs. And if I ever have to send, like, Brad to be like, hey, Brad. I forgot this in the trailer. Can you send it over in a shuttle? Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
He knows. He can go in. It's in this drawer. I usually label my drawers and cupboards as well of what's in them. Speaker 4
Oh, we yeah. We saw your setup. It was very impressive. Speaker 1
It was Speaker 4
very, very impressive. Speaker 1
Them all up. Yeah. You literally can just look at it. You know exactly what you're going for, and then he puts it on a shuttle and sends it to the set, and we don't waste any time at all. Speaker 2
You're setting the tone. Speaker 4
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Speaking of setting the tone, Vic Victor, stop reading my script. Adrian from Maine wants to know what are your go to bands or albums or songs to set the fucking tone for the day? Like, when when the actors come into your trailer, what are you playing? Speaker 1
So a lot of season two, I actually played the soundtrack from season one of Shorzy, which was a lot of fun. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
I I listen to, like, a lot of rock or, like, metal. So, like, I don't play, like, a lot of my music in the trailer just because, like, I feel like it's not as much of a a shared genre. Sure. Try to play something as trailer friendly as possible that's gonna appeal to the most amount of people during the day. So I literally will make, sometimes before a show, a trailer playlist. Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 1
And it usually has, like, a little bit of, like, nothing too heavy, but nothing, too weak either. A little bit of hip hop. You know, like, something that's gonna kinda pump people up. I always have a speaker on my station. Sometimes we'll just throw on a random Spotify. I like to let the actors choose as well. Like, if they're feeling something that's gonna kinda get them in their zone, they can connect to my speaker and play whatever they want. You know? Speaker 4
Very cool. Final final listener question. Again, Joey from Colorado. He wants to know what are your favorite spots to get food or drinks or hang out in Sudbury? Speaker 1
Love Tucos Tacos. It's a vegan taco shop, and it's amazing. Like, even if you're, like, only eat meat, I feel like you love that place. It's so good. They have Alright. Speaker 4
Challenge accepted. Speaker 3
I did have that on our list, and I thought you will get mad at me for the vegan. No. Speaker 1
I haven't eaten. So good. They have, my favorite is the fish taco. It's like p h I s h, and it's like breaded deep fried avocado chunks as the fish in the taco with the sauce and, like, the cabbage and, like, so good. What else? Always townhouse. Townhouse makes good burgers, bottom line. You know? Speaker 4
Noticed a big shift to to townhouse this season in terms of setting. Like, a lot of the Speaker 1
Yeah. A lot Speaker 4
of the partying was you know, that was being done at the Colston, I guess. The first couple of seasons moved over to townhouse. Was that because of the fire or the yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. It's like we had to, like, kinda pivot from that location until because I don't think they got set back up again until fairly recently Mhmm. With the Colson. But, but, yeah, everything just switched to the townhouse instead. Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. I noticed that for sure. Speaker 1
Which I love the townhouse, but it's like a weird shaped building, so it's hard to see it Speaker 4
in for sure. It is an awkwardly shaped building. Yeah. It's not like a big box like Colson was. Right? It's Exactly. But they do have a great stage there. Like, I I'd love my band to play there one day because they've got the perfect stage. Yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 4
Yeah. Very cool. Victor, do you have any questions before, we wrap this up? Speaker 2
Yeah. Why don't you, share a little you know, you kind of manifested your career. Mhmm. Good good on you. You. But, what are some of the other hobbies that you have that you kinda wanna talk about so folks can learn a little more about you? Speaker 4
Oh, yeah. Speaker 1
I mean, I'm like I love my dogs. I love plants. I'm bit bit of a gardener, more so inside than outside, but I do love growing things. I don't get to travel as much as I would like to, but that's a hobby that I would love to have. Just with the kind of work we do, you know, there's certain things that we don't necessarily get around to as much. But when I'm not on set, I spend a lot of time. I have a shop that I work in in North Bay, so I rent a suite in a tattoo shop. And so in between shows and then sometimes on weekends during the shows, like, I do, work in there a lot. I know it's weird that you never know what what you even like when someone asks you what you like. Speaker 2
Well, what you well, and and let me help you with that too. So you mentioned with the kind of setting tone with the music. So, and you're into kind of more of the heavy heavier metal. What kind of music are you into? And is it kind of more modern music, or is it going back to the retro days? Speaker 1
I love everything. I grew up like, I was a goth kid growing up, so I listened to, like, a lot of, like, the heavy, like, gross metal, like, just, you know, screamy shit. Mhmm. You are? I just thought You Speaker 4
you and Bradley probably have a lot in common in terms of Yeah. Speaker 1
Hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. We always we we can totally bond over music for sure. Yeah. Because he did Speaker 4
he did he did that, doc on the punk scene in, was it in North Bay? Speaker 1
Or Sarnia. Speaker 4
Sarnia. The Sarnia punk scene. Yeah. I haven't seen it, but, yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
I wish he did it closer to, like, here. I would totally, like, go and rock that with them. That'd be a lot of fun. But, yeah, as I've gotten older, I've gotten, like, a little more mellow in, like, my taste. Also, just because, like, if I'm with people, I'm not just gonna blast something that's, like, so obnoxious that it, like, makes people uncomfortable. Sure. But I love like, I'm really into, like, stoner rock and, like, just rock in general. Anything that has a bit of, like I don't like super clean sounding music. Actually, one of my favorite bands, which is pretty mainstream like, it's mainstream, that I've, like, can't get enough of. I can listen to them all day every day is Queens of the Stone Age. Speaker 4
Sure. Speaker 1
And, like, every single band that Batman does. Yeah. Like, I love all of it. It's just, like, such a good sound. Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 1
Lyrically, I think it's it's a lot of fun. It's really amazing. But Speaker 2
But they're they're professionally produced. I mean, you could argue they're kind of of clean. Right? Speaker 1
But Yes. Compare Comparatively. One of my favorite Canadian bands actually is Death From Above nineteen seventy nine. Speaker 4
Yeah. So you and Jared have that in common? Speaker 1
Yeah. It was actually really cool when, like, I was reading the script because within the scripts, it outlines each song that's going to play. Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
And I was like, really? Like, this you know, like, I thought this was, like, just some band that, like, no one really knew about. So, like, having that in in the soundtrack was really, really cool. I thought that was a lot of fun. Yeah. Just that's so, like, unconventional for you know? Speaker 4
Sure. Yeah. Nice. Tan, do you have any questions? Speaker 3
I do. So I wanted to ask, like, in your profession, you know, do you ever find yourself focusing so much on the the hair and continuity and not enjoy enjoying watching, like, the the movie or the TV show that you're that you yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. I like, I even not even just hair. Like, hair, I will obviously notice it's I'm instantly drawn to it. And not even just, like, continuity wise, but just, like, choices. Like, when I see like, I question people's choices when they've chosen this sounds so awful. When I they chose in a specific hairstyle for something that, like, could have been something else. It could have been a lot cooler or, like, a little bit more bolder. But I also don't wanna judge because, like, sometimes you're not given any time on sets. To do anything. Even when I see continuity errors, I used to think, like, even before I was working in film, I used to think, you know, like like, oh, like, I'm sure, like, that that person's, like, they're just not they don't care or whatever. And then it turned into, like, now that I'm on set and I realized how many times I need to go in for finals. Not on Shorezy. They're great. Mhmm. But other shows where they just tell you, like, they look fine. Don't worry about it. Get out of there. And they just wanna shoot or they'll shoot and shoot and shoot and shoot and they don't stop. They never cut. So you never get to go in and fix something that's happened on camera. Yeah. So now when I see, like, continuity errors in TV shows or movies that I watch Speaker 4
You give them a little more grace. Speaker 1
Oh, it's it's the director. The director's name, asshole. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But, or even down to, like, the amount of film gear that I can pick out in any scene now that I'm like, that's not supposed to be there. Like, that's a grip head. That's a that's an apple box. Like, you know, just weird things like that, costumes, props, just because my job, other than styling hair, is focusing on that little TV screen and trying to pick out what's different from this take from the last take. So you end up seeing all of it. Yeah. Wow. So it's really hard to focus sometimes on the story for sure. Like, I get lost and, like, I'll watch a whole movie and not even know what the person's name was because I'm too busy looking at other things. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 3
Does that mean you can't watch with friends or family? Like, they they are sick of watching something with you because you Speaker 1
I don't bring it up. You don't. Yeah. It's one of those people that's just, like, pointing everything out unless it's a crazy, crazy, like, continuity mistake or weird thing. Mhmm. Speaker 3
Then you gotta pause it and Speaker 4
say Starbucks cup in the middle of, Game of Thrones and Speaker 1
Yeah. We turn to the thing on set where anyone's like Mhmm. You know, like, they're they're looking over the set to make sure there's nothing in there, or we're gonna start doing a shot over here that's wider, and they want all hands on deck to make sure everything's moved and cleared out of the way. We're kinda rushing, as it's always turned into the, like, leave no Starbucks cups on set. And it's doesn't mean anything about Starbucks cups. It just means, like, don't hide don't don't leave trash there because that's gonna turn into the next the next Starbucks that Yeah. Starbucks. Speaker 4
It'll be all it'll be all over the Internet and stuff for sure. I'll ask the question that our buddy, Matt, would normally ask, his boilerplate question. What's it been what's it meant to you to be part of these two shows, Letterkenny and Shorzi? I mean, they're they're cult favorites. You know, there's gonna be Comic Cons and stuff from from here to eternity featuring, you know, Letterkenny characters and cast and stuff. What has it meant to you to be part of this? Speaker 1
I I honestly feel like I feel super fortunate. And, like, sometimes, like, when you make a production, like, you understand what it is. I understand how big Letterkenny and Shorzy is. But, like, at the same time, sometimes you just feel like you're almost, like, not worthy of working on something that's so, like, worldwide loved because, like, especially in Northern Ontario, we're used to, like except for those few staples like Letterkenny and Shorsey and, like, a few other things, a lot of it is, like, no like, it's not reaching very far. Right. You know what I mean? Like, it's not actually getting the exposure that even sometimes they deserve. Like, some of those things that we do here really, really cool. Mhmm. And we thank the tax credits for that for allowing these shows to be made, without bankrupting people. And, you know, it's it's stimulating our economy. It's getting us work all the time. So So fingers crossed it never runs out. But, yeah, I feel really like, I feel super honored to be part of it. You know what I mean? Like, and it's funny because, like, once your contract is done, like, that's it. Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 1
When the next one like, the next season of Shorzy comes along, like, they don't have to hire you back. You know what I mean? There's nothing that says that they have to hire me back as a person or as a hairstylist. So, like, each time you get that call, it's like I still get butterflies every single time because I'm like, yes. Like, I get to do it again. I get to hang up my friends, and I get to, like, hang out with you and, like, just do fun shit. You know? Like Speaker 4
That's amazing. Speaker 1
Exactly. It's fun. For sure, it feels nice being part of someone's extended family in that way. Like, again, like, it's like saying how, like, before where we're sort of all this weird, like, this weird band of, like, misfits Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 1
Is that it's, like, everyone on set, especially through a lot of the time, and even some of the actors, like, there's been at least a point in your life where you really felt like you did not belong. And when you come together on a film set, like, none of that matters. Everyone belongs. Everyone's friends. Like, even people that you never would have been friends with twenty years ago or ten years ago or whatever. You know? Like, you really do develop that strong bond. I think it's because we're all a little bit in same, so we just all completely stick together. And Speaker 4
Amazing. Yeah. Are there any, projects or anything that you're working on or future projects coming out that you'd like to shed light on or can you? Speaker 1
So after, towards the end of this year, I get to go out to Nova Scotia to go work on a show. I'm really excited. I actually just did the, like, second portion, I guess, of my interview today, and I got it. Speaker 4
So Oh, congratulations. You get to go home. That's great. Speaker 1
I'm on for a bit. Yeah. It's only two months. Well, six six weeks in Dartmouth, and then they do a couple of weeks in Hamilton and back in Ontario. Mhmm. So I'm really excited just to get back there and, like, it'll be colder this time than, like, the last time Yeah. I was in Nova Scotia, but, it'll be nice to be near the ocean again. I remember the the first time I went back to Nova Scotia after years of not being there. Like, I literally just started bawling when I saw the ocean. Yeah. Just ugly girl crying. Like, I was I'm I'm obsessed. So like I said, I would eventually maybe like to move back there. So, like, every time I do go there, it's, like, harder and harder to come back to Ontario. Sure. But, you know, it's it is what it is. We'll see. Speaker 4
Where would you like people to follow you online if you'd if you do? You may not want to. I don't know. I'm I'm making a big assumption, I guess. Speaker 1
Anyone's welcome to. Both my I have two accounts. They're both wide open because they're business accounts, so you can't even close them off. Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 1
My personal account is at the Mayflower, n a y, and then my last name. And if you don't want to follow inappropriate things, because I do post a lot of inappropriate things on my Instagram, You can follow my hair page, which is everything hair related, whether it's in my shop or on set. I post any reels and, like, trailers and shit to to that one, and it's at, napalm dot inc, I n c. Speaker 4
Very cool. Thank you so much, Ashley, for all the time you've you've given us today, and it's great. Yeah. Yeah. Loved all these, stories you had to share. Speaker 1
Great. Speaker 4
Alright. Glad I Speaker 1
wasn't Oh, Speaker 4
sorry. Go on. Speaker 1
So say, I'm just glad I wasn't too too awkward for you. Speaker 4
No. Not awkward at all. No. It was great. And and our listeners are gonna love all the quest the answers you gave. I'm going to, play us off here now with Tanya's favorite song, Your Man by Joji. That's all we have. If you'd like to support the podcast, please become a patron or tell a friend. Also, follow us on most social media. That's at protistan pod. Thank you for joining us. Now we're gonna go hang out, maybe get get a haircut with our new friend, Ashley, on behalf of Ashley, Tanya, Matt or not Matt. He's not here, but Victor and myself. Thank you for listening, and have a great 
