Hi. Sorry to to steal your, thunder there, Tobias. I think Alan was trying to put you in the next thing. So it was a busy week. We, had an interview with, Camille.

Jesus. I completely forgot.

Yeah. Laura Moore. Camille was so true. Fantastic. Oh my gosh. Just, just the most down to earth, amazing, nice, happy, friendliest person you could possibly imagine. So it was it was lovely, to to meet her and, to have a chat.

I'm pretty sure Victor broke her at one point too.

Victor tries to that's Victor's rules, try to break everyone. Yeah. So that was a lot of fun. That was this week. So school is, our son is in exams, and I've taken it upon myself to try to help him, study, which has resulted in me doing a whole lot of chat GPT to try to educate myself on

You know a lot more about physics than I do now.

That's for sure. Good lord. Like, physics, grade eleven fit I never took physics when I was in school, so I there's no I don't have comprehension. I'm not entirely sure when he's going to have to use, like, how what the distance is of an echo coming back to him, when the temperature of the air is

Civil engineering.

I'm just like, what when when will you use this? When will you need to know with the temperature? So, anyways, he's using it in, common, day to day now. When we were going for a bike ride, he was trying to give me the physics analysis of if we yelled right now, what the I'm like, really, dude? I I don't care about any of this. But, anyways, that's what I'm doing these days is, I'm

Do you hear our son's study buddy?

I'm I'm the study buddy. And I've I feel like I can put it on my resume now that I am a tutor for anything, really, because, ChatGPT, I I owe you one. ChatGPT four point o, is what I was using, and it was really giving me a lot of great information. It was wrong, though, a few times. Gotta say, there were some errors. So don't, like, hold true to that stuff. Got people out there.

Today, you guys were studying up on world religions, which was interesting.

World religion. Yeah. No. Much more about religion. I I'm actually not minding, the the tutoring because I feel like I'm getting more knowledgeable as I'm trying to help him, which is always a good thing is, never stop learning. So it's been, it's been interesting, and I can't wait for it to end.

What about your foot? You got news up

on your foot. I did. I did. Oh, actually, I should share that because, Jeff was around. So good news, bad news. So it's not in my head. I actually have an actual problem.

Gaslighting her this entire time.

Yeah. It wasn't wasn't wasn't sure anymore because, I wasn't able to walk very well. So, anyways, results have come back that I have a thick, partial tear, with some sort of measurement, and then I have three additional tears. So I have four tears, in my plantar fascia, which is the I wanna call it a tendon fascia. It's a it's a it's the part that goes underneath your foot. Well, plug it in. And, is is part of the whole arch and heel and toe. It, like, gets a whole thing.

Mhmm.

So, anyways, I have a specialist appointment next month and get to find out what fun new adventures, are in store for me on how to fix this. So all I know right now is that I'm not supposed to be on it, which is really difficult to not not to do. So, yeah, trying to find other interesting ways to get out and have a like, biking, which I'm trying to do, just low intensity.

Mhmm.

So we'll see what happens from here. But yeah.

Alright.

Not been fun. Yeah.

At least you have an answer now.

I do have an answer.

There you go.

I have an answer. That means I have a solution coming. Yes. So that's good.

Tobias, how have you been, bud?

I've been really good. First of all, I I I wanna say to Victor, I'm a little surprised to learn that that, Tanya's favorite place is not Dallas, and then it's called the big d.

Nice.

And, Tanya, I wanna know that I I want you to know that as a college professor, I'm a little stunned, little offended to hear you call, listening to to chat GPT studying, but that's okay.

I yeah. I'm sorry. I I it's it's my cheat code because I do not know anything. A little bit of something, it was better than Yeah.

Oh, no. No. I I mean, I'm I'm I'm kinda joking, but you know what I mean.

So Really, what Tanya is doing is she's teaching it. There you go. Yeah.

That's how it's for Yeah.

Really? Yeah. Things are really good. It's the summer, and, I mean, it's hot here, but I I'm, I get to start teaching, Cali, soon. Like, next next Monday, I'll be teaching, regularly at a at a place, nearby, which is exciting. I'm three weeks into a graduate class that I'm teaching, from Missouri State. I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm almost done with Ted Lasso Oh. Which I had I mean, I had heard of, but I had not I had not, you know, jumped into. And

And how how are you enjoying that?

You know, I I I keep saying that it's almost as good as the letter, Kenny. So it's nearly perfect. Yes. Alright.

Well, that's good. That that's fine. I mean, that's high praise.

Yeah. Yeah. Roy Kent is my favorite character.

Right. Yeah. I think he's a lot of

famous people. Roy.

For sure.

But anyway

I can watch that all over again.

Do you have any update on on that that book that you were, putting together?

I do not yet. I mean, I I can

Do you wanna talk about it? If you don't wanna talk, we don't have to. But No.

I mean, not not right now. Give give me I I hope hopefully, the next time I'm on, I can give you a better a better update. Alright. And I'm I'm happy to, you know, either in the Discord or or, I don't know how late I'll be up tonight, but, I mean, either either a future after party or a Discord and, hopefully, almost certainly almost certainly, by the next time I'm on. All good. Be in Perfect.

Alright. Sounds good. Alright, bud. Well, let's get this rig rolling here.

Previously on Letterkenny.

Last week, we had one of our potpourri episodes where we discussed a number of different topics, plus we were the first to announce the Shorzy Classic hockey games. And, boy, did they start selling like hotcakes. Well, I've got a bit of an update on that, coming up in a second. This week, our buddy Tobias, joins us to kick out his favorite Letterkenny jams. Shout out to Ronald and Mike. So let's get this thing going.

Well, don't bore us. Get to the chorus. It makes

me uncomfortable. Don't

don't be uncomfortable. It's

Never stop. Never stop.

Yeah. Cassie on on last stream says, yeah, the new TM, the new trademark is Toronto Mike. It's like, make sure you trademark that. Yeah. I'll just mention Toronto Mike at the end of each every time I say kick out the jams.

He's just gonna storm in here again and and make things all, like

That only means he's listening.

Yeah. Exactly. But he doesn't. He doesn't listen because he's not a Letterkenny fan or a Shorzey fan. Inexploit fan. Yeah. Or an Al fan. So before we we get going then, just about about the Shorzy Classic, I, asked, Kara for an update earlier today. The VIP in Boston is sold out.

Oh, boy.

Sold out in Boston of VIP. I think there's still tickets available for the game amazing. But no more VIP. And I think Toronto is, like, going fast too. So,

Good for them.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's great. I'm I'm happy that this is working out because it could mean that they'll add other cities. And because it I think this is kinda like a trial, like they did with Letterkenny Live. You know, maybe they'll they'll do other cities in the US and in Canada, and how fun would that be. Right? So, great news there, and it's great to see that people are are are are excited about it. I know that in our Discord, we have a ton of people who are, who bought tickets for for either city. At least one of them bought tickets for both, and and he's gonna fly between cities be between games. So that's amazing. And we're gonna see some of our degen friends up here in Toronto, on that weekend. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. So I can't wait for that. But we're here today to kick out the jams. Now, Tobias, before we, you know, get your top ten Letterkenny, songs, why don't you kinda, like, tell us about your your musical taste, your interest. Like, what kind of music are you into?

I I tend to listen to, old school hip hop. Mhmm. As you guys know, Wu Tang is probably my my favorite. And then I also listen to a lot of, Victor's favorite grunge. You know, so, but, yeah, I mean, you know, that that kind of stuff. So I'm I I don't think that there will be there there may be a few surprises, in in in the top ten, but I don't think anybody's gonna be stunned that I that I made this list.

Yeah. And so I'm hoping that as we play these, you're gonna, tell us a little bit about the artist or at least where the songs were in the show and stuff like that.

Absolutely. And if if you want, I can even give you a little bit of, you know, I mean, some some foreshadowing or something.

No. No. Let's let's play them, and then you can talk about them as we go. Sound good?

Yeah. That's that's fine too.

Alright. So I'm gonna start with, your number ten pick. Here we go. Alright. This is Talking Distance by Sunbeam Sound Machine. Talk about this one, Tobias. Okay.

So this is season ten episode two dealership.

Oh, okay.

And this this this comes at the at the end. This is, it begins as Rosie receives a text that Wayne has done at the dealership. As that is to say, you know, helping Marie Fred get her, her deal on the truck. Mhmm. And it continues as as she gets into her new truck, but gets a handshake from Wayne.

Right. And he

kind of lean leans out the the window looking longingly back at him as he walks away. And then Wayne pulls up, you know, and Rosie, rather than dancing, wants to go home and and climbs in very closely. And then then, it ends the the episode.

Yeah. We've gotten a lot of people in the livestream saying they love this pick, YWZ Gord. Great pick. Love this track, JB.

What was the name of it again?

This one's called Talking Distance by Sunbeam Sound Machine. Do you know anything about this band, Tobias?

I I know nothing about almost any of these bands except that I like the song. So and and I I do I do wanna stress that. So Mhmm. If if if if I may. So, I think it was JB who did his the the first of these. Right?

Do I

remember that correctly? Okay.

That's what

I thought. So I I think he and I had similar, but not quite the same, you know, sort of processes. Mhmm. However many songs there are in the Leonard County soundtracks. I I literally just went through and and put all of the ones that I had previously liked into my queue, and cut them down four times to get to about fourteen or fifteen.

Wow.

And then I yeah. And then I and then I watched, like, the videos and and and and then and then decided on the songs proper for the top ten. And then I watched the scenes to put them in the in the the proper order. Yeah. But, otherwise I mean, no. I I I did not do and I I don't know when this this song came out. I don't know, you know, I mean, you know, that that kind of stuff. Sure.

Well, I've got it here. It came out in twenty nineteen.

Okay. Cool.

It's from their album, Goodness Gracious, and they're a band from Australia, I believe. Let's see here. Somewhere it says Australia yeah. An Australian multi instrumentalist musician. Oh, it's one guy, Nick Sowersby, known professionally as Sunbeam Sound Machine. So yeah. I mean, it's amazing where where, you know, Jared gets his music from. Right? Like, he's not discerning. He gets it from wherever he gets it. And,

Yeah. One of the things also about this list, I think, is that, so the last time I think that I did I I believe the last time I did this was the McMurray, the the the top ten McMurray.

Yeah.

You know, and I as as you guys might recall, I had sort of a theme. I didn't I didn't know that I had a theme. Mhmm. You know, I'm not sure that this is Chad life, but,

you know, the same thing.

Are we gonna

have a love story again?

Yeah. Yeah. But, I mean,

what what just called that in.

But Letterkenny is a show about relationships.

Yes.

Right? And and I and I I don't just mean romantic relationships, which this song is. But, you know, but it's about brother and sister and friendships. And, you know, I mean, Riley and Jonesy have an especially, tight relationship, for example. Yes. You you know what I'm saying? And so, the reality is, I think, that that, most of these songs at least have something to do with relationships in in in some capacity.

Okay.

And then the other thing, just really quickly. Sorry. Six six of these ten six of the ten songs close the close the episode

Mhmm.

Which is to say that, you know, Jared really does pay attention not just to the songs, but also how he ends a story.

Yes.

You know what I mean? Which I think matters a lot.

Yeah. I think he picks the bangers to to end his episodes on too. Right? Like, but I loved when when we were interviewing him him talking about his process of picking music. And it's like, you know, he when he find when he, like, finds a song that becomes his new favorite song, and he can't wait to use it in some kind of you know, in a story, right, in in a in an episode. So

Yeah. He'll listen to it forty times in a row or whatever. I

mean, some

and stuff like that. Yeah. That was really cool.

Yeah. It was interesting. I like this pick. It's got a kind of a melancholic, sound to it, you know. And, it's not that typical surf rock that Jared seems to really like, but, it's close. It's it's, you know, it's kind of like a a ballad version of that. What what do you think of this pick, Matt?

I I like it. Mhmm.

I mean,

I don't have much more to say. I like it. I have already added it to my Spotify. I've got it open so I can add soon. As also reminded, it's been a long day, so this is the perfect kinda episode for me tonight.

Mhmm. Sit back with my

sit back with my friends and listen to some tunes. So Listen

to music. Yeah.

I can't wait to see where this goes next.

Perfect. Victor, would do you like this one?

It well, it's not hip hop, and it's not grunge. So, yeah, it's great.

Check off the two boxes.

If if it was country, I'd love it, Just a Spite Owl. Mhmm. But, I think winter. Nice. But, no, I I it's a it's a it's obviously a banger. Right? It's it's it's a great tune. It it gives me vibes of, I don't know, not ever long, but, you know, that kind of that kind of vibe. Mhmm. And what's that what's that band, mouse mouse mouse?

Modest mouse?

Yes. Modest mouse. I get, like, a modest mouse kinda feel to it as well. Interesting. But I I I really like it. Great tune.

Mhmm.

Alright.

Well, great great way to start us off, Tobias. Let's, let's see what you have here for number nine. Speaking of Riley and Jonesy, I think. Alright. Wolfpack by Pigeonhole. Talk about this one.

This closes, season one episode one. Ain't no reason to get excited. This is this is the next scene right after Wayne has welcomed us and Troy to butter, Kenny.

Right.

So the next basically, the next day, at the farmhouse, Riley and Jonesy drop off Katie, who who tells Wayne that it's good to have him back. You know, it's good to have you back, big brother. Mhmm. At this point, Riley and Jonesy are very different deferential, which is important because, you know, I mean, one of my one of my favorite things to do if I'm if I have four minutes and forty or so seconds, I'll just watch the first cold open on repeat if I could.

Yeah.

And they are definitely not deferential. Right? So by the end of the episode, they are very they they they're deferential, Dwayne. You know, they as they're leaving, I think it's, Jonesy who says have a good one, bro. And then as they back out, this song is playing. And then, again, the the the episode ends, with the and the and credits, with this song. And quite frankly, I think at least some of the the lyrics sort of introduced not only the next episode, which is Super Soft Birthday, but, you know, you start getting the the, Wayne's role as toughest guy in Letterkenny. Yes. Not not just not just for that show, but, you know, I mean, quite frankly, it just sort of, continues for the duration of of the the the entirety of the show.

Mhmm.

So some of the the lyrics on this one I do not do this for every song. Nope. Some of some of the lyrics on this, now I now I raised a fucking ruckus like like the zoo broke loose. Was raised where the wild things are.

Ah.

On an island with icing, I've been raw, and no man is safe from the base drum.

There you go.

So I I think that I mean, kinda, again, getting back to the the the writing prod Jared's writing process. Right?

Mhmm.

You know, I I think he very clearly ends this episode with with a vision moving forward for the show.

Yeah. The beast has been unleashed and, yeah. Very cool. This one here is from twenty thirteen. It's eleven years old from the album Chimp Blood by Pigeonhole. They're still around. They're a Vancouver Canadian hip hop band, previously known as Creative Minds. It's a duo consisting of Colin, Dusty, Mello, McHugh and Lee, Marmalade, Napseen or yeah. Anyway, so I'm wondering if, these are guys maybe Jared knew when he was out there, you know, working, you know, attending bar and stuff when where he met Risky and stuff like that. I wonder if they're all from, you know, they're they're all buds from, Vancouver or it's just that's where he heard them first. But, yeah, this this one here definitely has early Letterkenny vibes for sure. Victor, what do you think of this one? It's a hip hop track. Are you okay with this?

Yeah. I'm I'm okay with all genres, especially when you're trying to find the right song for this, you know, for a soundtrack. Clearly, that was the right song for the scene. Mhmm. It made a lot of sense. It was the right vibe. I probably won't be adding it to my playlist, and I and and I may put, the sound machine in front of it. But, but, no, the song was perfect for the scene. K.

I I really start wondering, like, what came first, the song or the story?

Right. Yeah.

And and it's almost like, okay. Is the whole thing a musical? Like, did

he

did he hear the music and then came up with the story that inspired the that that goes along with this with the the the words of the song. Right? I remember doing that when I was a kid. I I would come up with full out musicals to to different, mixed tracks. It's it's fantastic. I love the the tune. I love the the first tune too. Like, I would have really relaxed to that and just, it's something that you can really, unwind to for sure. Good picks.

Yeah. Well, you know, is is just quick. You know what's interesting? Like, a lot of directors, will play the soundtrack during the filming of certain scenes, certainly in films, to set the mood, to set the vibe. Right? So that because it it it informs kind of the the mood that you're supposed to get from the scene. I don't think that they do that on on the set with Shorzy and Letterkenny. I could be wrong. At least, you know, we just certainly didn't see that when we were there, but, we only got to see a snippet of it. But that's that's, you know so that's the two are kind of intertwined.

Mhmm. Yeah. Wolfpack. Yeah. Awesome. Loves this pick. Paddle says it's a certified certifiable beaut. And, Cassie's saying this episode is really making her wanna do one of these music apps because she loves talking about music. Yes, Cassie. Start working on your top ten. You're more than welcome to. The only rule I think we came up with was you can't like, two of yours you you're only allowed two songs to overlap songs that have been, kicked out before. So it's gonna get more

one extreme song.

And there's no extreme song. Amazing. Matt, what what do you think of this, track?

It's a it's a banger. So I remember so when Victor and I went out to breakfast a few weeks ago, we talked about this a bit where, like, I love music. I love it so much. My weird, crutch, though, is I'm terrible at lyrics. I'm terror like, I I can't remember. I'm I'm I'm bad with names, and I'm I'm bad with lyrics. So I'm often drawn to how how a song makes me feel and and and the overall just how it comes together. So this one, that beat out of the gate had me. I'm like, did it was strong. It was intense. Made me feel some kind of way. I you had me right there. So I I to me, it's a banger because I just like how it made me feel. I can't follow what he's saying all the time. Like I said, I'm terrible at that shit. Mhmm. But I like I like how it sounds. Does that make sense?

Robbie's trying to start a fight in the livestream saying extreme only have one song, so no risk there of being kicked out too many times. Robbie, you're going to get a Victor hug when you came up now. I don't know. I don't know. Now you might just get a knee to the balls. Alright. Let's, let's we're off to number eight now. Here we go.

I don't know what you've been told. I don't know

Alright. This is Walk Tall by Kelly or Kelly. Talk about this one, Tobias.

Season seven episode six, in it to win it. This is the, Motor County Irish front friendly with the Cherry County Eagles, after, Candace has put them back together.

Mhmm.

This is this is after they've learned that their former Irish teammates have switched teams, you know, and that they all have need of blood somehow. Right? This song plays, in terms of the the story for for the game, it plays after Susan at BlueCard's OCM. I'm just backtracking. Man.

But Talk about whiplash.

Yeah. Yeah. So this this is this is when, you know, Tannis is is beginning. Not only has she started the team, but she's doing mic'd out. Like, she's, you know, so, you know, before the game, there's a lot of, and especially Shorzy, but but Riley and Johnsy chirps, with the other team. During during the the game, I mean, there are, you know, multiple near fights at least and, you know, Shorzy and even, you know, Tyson is getting involved in terms of the, the chirps. But then I I really liked, the the lyrics again in terms of the scene. Right?

Mhmm.

Rule number one, burn burn bright like the sun. Work the room. Work the floor like it's just begun. Be the only thing they see. You know, so, again, with with with Tannis doing the the mic'd out, and then rule number three is forget where you've been. And, again, you know, they they they have half of the half of the the County Eagles they used to play with. Right? And so, you know, they're they're they're dealing with BoomTown and etcetera. And so I I I think that there's a sort of very interesting again, the the the story is built into the song or maybe the song is built into the story, which I really liked. Yeah. And, also, I really like the song. So

So this song is from twenty ten, off of Kelly O'Karek's, The Boxer album, which it looks like it was first album. He is an English singer songwriter, best known as a lead singer and rhythm guitarist for the indie rock band Block Party. Oh, didn't know that. So that's interesting. And he's released six studio albums. This again, this is his first solo album. So, very cool. Tanya, what do you think of this, pick?

Yeah. It's a unique sound to it. One that I don't think I've heard before, that that I don't even know what it was, like a synth synthesizer in the

the background. Probably a synth. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a it's really got a a cool sound to it. Definitely something I I would be interested in hearing more of.

Mhmm. Matt, what'd you think?

Yeah. I dig it. I was trying to I was trying to identify some of those sounds out of the gate. I couldn't, but I loved it. It also, weirdly, it feels like something I'd hear in, like, a really badass camp movie.

Mhmm.

Like, I don't know. Like like, some really badass scene, like, some kids or something are protecting a camp from a terrorist attack, and this is while they're prepping the camp, and this is what's going on.

Are you I'm sorry. Matt, have you ever seen toy soldiers?

Yeah. Yes. This is

my man. That's funny.

Hundred percent.

Well, it's got that cadence. I mean, it's it's got that cadence of the marching,

Well, it's not cadence. It's they took it. They it's they they took it. They sampled it.

Yeah. Like, I I picture a montage of prep work for disaster, and I love it. So Yeah. Yeah. That's where that's where my head went during that one.

Fucking good.

Thought I'd share that.

Victor, what'd you think of that?

Yeah. I mean, you know, it starts out like a, like, like, a non funny parody, right, of of exactly that kind of marching band. It's it's kinda monotone, but it's totally a montage kinda thing that you it's it's it's it's totally made for a soundtrack. I would not be listening to it on its own.

Mhmm. Yep. Getting a lot of approval from the livestream. Austin's loving it. Paddle loves it. Yeah. It's, yeah. It's definitely got that kind of a march y thing to it and perfect for the scene that it was,

just I'm pretty sure Police Academy or one of those movies actually, you know, they there was a scene that we're all marching. Yeah. The cadets were marching and kinda singing that.

And it's usually followed up with sound off. One, two, sound off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But I

love the toy soldiers reference. That made my whole night, Tobias. Thank you for that one.

Are we gonna kick out toy soldiers later? Is is

that alright. Oh, by Martika.

Yeah.

That'd be all. By M and M?

No. By Martika. Did did M and M sample? I don't know. Anyway, here we go with number seven. I love this song. Get in My Car by Bronco or Proncho. I'm not sure, but, I love this song. Tobias, talk about it.

Well, I I did this one for Victor.

Okay.

This is this is season nine episode five sleepover.

Well, you know what? This is the best part. Then if that's the case, that's the best part of the episode.

I mean, it it it's not it's not the, it's not it's not when the that goes black, Victor. I'm just so you're you're you're really moving moving the the scenes up a little bit,

which is good.

So this this this is again at the at the end of the at the end of the episode. This this is when, you know, so so, Stewart has been telling Roald that he that he is in the in the in the Bonnie McMurray. And so Roald tells him to go to her and, you know, that, you know, that they I don't know. The the stalking on Instagram or Snapchat or whatever it is. So so Victor is or sorry. Victor is stupid.

Sorry.

Freud didn't slip there.

Yeah. Sorry about that. Stewart Stewart is riding his bike, over over to find Bonnie at Gales only only to to watch her drive by on her way to Derry, you know, because Katie's been playing wingman wingman. You know, Riley and Jonesy show up up at Gail's thinking that that that Bonnie McMurray is also there because, you know, they they they hit her up, like clockwork. Right? Mhmm. And then and this this is this is the the most important part at least for me. Rose Rosie shows up at the farmhouse. And if you guys don't remember that scene, I I highly recommend that you watch it again because, Clark Bacco is is unbelievable.

Oh, yes. Yes.

And then in terms of the the opening line of the song, again, kinda going back to relationships and and perfect and perfect lyrics, would you really wanna make it alone if you could? And so every everybody is going to to to their, you know, want to be partner.

Right. Yeah.

And so I I I just thought that that was, again, a really good, a really good wine

I love it.

For for for the for the, for the scene.

This is so far my favorite track that you've kicked out. It's got a a Cars feel to it, the band. And, you know, I love the Cars. They're one of my favorite bands. And this one here just kind of has that same kind of feel to it. Matt, what do you think?

Yeah. It's fun. It's probably it's one of those ones that you're gonna hear it's gonna put you in a mood. Like, I kinda wanted to jump around the room here a bit Mhmm. On, you know, full on pop pop pop pop. And, it was good. Also, it kinda gave me a bit of an okay go vibe.

A little bit. Yeah.

Yeah. Right?

I could hear you.

Like, I could picture some funky music video where they're doing weird shit and just I enjoy it. No. I like it. It's a

good one. Yeah. This is from their, album Bad Behavior released in twenty eighteen. And Bronco or Broncho, I don't know how to say that, they're an American indie, band formed in twenty ten in Norman, Oklahoma. So, interesting. And they're still they're still active. But, yeah, I love this song. It's it's it's a a poppy, Cars kind of vibe to it. Victor, what do you think?

Yeah. It's fantastic. Second song that can stand on its own. Mhmm. Doesn't need to have a show for, relevance. Yes. I think that, yeah, probably between the first one and this one, I don't know. They're they're kind of hide right now, but, fantastic song.

Tabai or Tanya?