The gang at The Produce Stand are joined by Olivia Stadler, who is a writer on Letterkenny and also plays Olive.
Speaker 0
That fresh produce stand there. That's a beauty.
Speaker 1
What do you listen to?
Speaker 2
My favorite murder podcast. Taggart and Torrance podcast. The produce stand.
Speaker 1
Fucking sexy.
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It's Margarita Monday, and that means we are once again hanging out with the produce stand. Podcast paying tribute to everything in the universe. I know what you're thinking. There are many other Lettic Kenny podcasts out there, but this one is all about the squish Melows. I'm Malia hosts and joining me in the room as always is lovely Ting and online. We have squirrely Matt and the valuable Victor. And joining us this week, she's a stand up comic, a writer, a blogger, a fellow podcaster, and an actor you'll be able to see her in the newest craves series, late bloomers, and you can catch her on roast battles Canada where she eviscerates any and all competition. Don't fuck with this girl. She will cut you verbally. We all know and love her as one half of the stand up team of Alex and all have featured in this seasons of Letter Kenny, Please join me making some noise for Olivia Stadler.
Speaker 4
Wonderful. Oh my gourd. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. I don't mind.
Speaker 3
I regret nothing. Welcome to the produce and Olivia.
Speaker 4
You're right. That that intro did give me an anxiety talk. So no. That that was the intent? Yeah.
Speaker 0
We gotta keep you on your I'll keep you on edge. Right?
Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. I know. Even just throwing up my blog. I'm like, no. No. No. I don't know what you're talking about. This is secrets.
Speaker 3
The substack is a secret. It's a
Speaker 4
No. I'm kidding.
Speaker 3
Very poorly.
Speaker 4
But you know when you make stuff, I don't know if US can relate to this, but you make stuff because you feel compelled. You have the art artistic impulse to create stuff, but then actually having people consume it is a terrifying thought, but both have to exist. Yes. The web just stranger. That's why you're doing this letter kinda tour was a dream because it's like so often I perform in front of my peers, which is a nightmare. I don't want anyone who knows me to perceive my art. You know what I mean? It's cringe.
Speaker 0
Yeah. We've been doing this for what? Three three years. I think maybe two to three people that I actually know personally have listened to this podcast. I just they just Wow.
Speaker 3
Her sister found out about our podcast last year, like, two years in Yeah. And, there was a reason we didn't tell her, though, because she listened to one episode and said, yeah, I'm good. We don't need to listen anymore.
Speaker 5
I felt that there was a reference to, somebody had sent a message saying that they were listening to us on the way, to work in the morning. And I'm like, why are people listening to our conversation? Like, up.
Speaker 4
It was really creepy. It's like, guys, this is my conversation with my friends when you're listening to it. Just because I put it in the
Speaker 0
world doesn't mean you actually have to consume it. Right? Yeah.
Speaker 5
I remember at the beginning, I was counting. I'm like nine people are listening. Okay. They're for trying to
Speaker 3
Freet listened twice. Everyone's accountable. No.
Speaker 4
But then it's like if nobody sends you a message, it's like, okay. Well, then my friends are hate listening, they're listening, and they're seething, and they're they're like, oh, she's annoying. I literally start every I I prelude every episode of my podcast, which I do quarterly, quarterly podcast, by saying, mom and dad, please don't listen to this. I mean, it was on my heart.
Speaker 3
Oh, we have kids. So we tell them that to we
Speaker 4
don't need We
Speaker 5
do the same.
Speaker 4
Hold to that.
Speaker 3
Well, my our son, our oldest is sixteen. So we tell him, do not. Do not tell your friends about That's my fear. Because if they listen, they're gonna have so much to But
Speaker 0
you say that, but then you brought him to their show. Front row listening to you in Burlington.
Speaker 4
I'm trying to remember. Yeah. Your kid. We're He's
Speaker 3
a tall guy, tall shaggy kid. Front row. We were front row kind of off to the
Speaker 0
Real chunky
Speaker 4
food. Yeah. That sounds familiar.
Speaker 3
Six foot four. Anyway, we gave you guys t shirts if you remember, Ali.
Speaker 4
I remember that. Of course, I remember I remember meeting you guys.
Speaker 3
Where were you speaking to us from?
Speaker 4
I'm in Toronto, Ontario.
Speaker 3
What part of Toronto?
Speaker 4
No. No. No. No. Oh, try huddle on. You want to kill me. Okay. Or when you want to
Speaker 3
The the middle part will say.
Speaker 4
Sex murder me. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3
That's fine.
Speaker 0
What where
Speaker 3
are you from originally?
Speaker 4
I'm from, Von. Vaughn, Ontario.
Speaker 3
City above Toronto.
Speaker 0
Got in the train. It went down and stopped.
Speaker 4
Yeah. I used to just be like I'm from it's like if I would go outside of Ontario, would you say I'm from Toronto?
Speaker 3
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 5
We still recognize Toronto.
Speaker 3
So growing up in Vaughn, how did Olivia Sadler become a, like, decide she wanted to be a comedian? Or is that was that the first thing you wanted to do or was there something else?
Speaker 4
I literally didn't know about stand up until I was, like, twenty one.
Speaker 3
K.
Speaker 4
Well, now that I didn't know about it, I think I just, like, first of all, didn't see it as an option because I didn't see any, like, female com comics.
Speaker 3
And it
Speaker 4
wasn't really in my world. My parents didn't spend a lot of time watching stand up. I remember they found Russell Peters, which is kind of cool. Like, that's the first stand up I ever saw at Christmas time when I was probably, like, twelve or something. My parents just kept playing it.
Speaker 3
Right. Is Christmas special?
Speaker 4
I don't know. I think it was just a special.
Speaker 3
Oh, okay.
Speaker 0
It was probably, like, an original act was one of the Yeah. One of the greatest.
Speaker 4
Oh, we
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we we got to see him at Yuckex before he was a thing. It was it was. Really? Yeah. But, like, we already knew his name. And because it, like, his act before was pretty local. Right? It was all about his growing up in Scarborough and stuff, right, which is a lot of fun. And and his dad. Yeah. And, yeah, we loved it, but, yeah, we used to go to Yuck yikes a lot. So, yeah, we were big fans of stand up comedy.
Speaker 4
Damn. That's awesome. Yeah. And I I don't know. Used to live downtown?
Speaker 3
No. But, I mean, it was our
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city outing. Right?
Speaker 3
We'd come down to bars or whatever, but one well, almost once a month probably, we'd we'd go to we'd go to the comedy clubs. So, yeah.
Speaker 4
Do you guys still?
Speaker 3
It's been a while. We got kids now. Right? Now we only go to the soft cedars to see you and, and Mark Forward and and, Jeff McHenry,
Speaker 4
you know, for doing this podcast?
Speaker 3
Oh, I wish. No. We don't. We had to pay. We paid. We paid. Jared.
Speaker 0
What a good word. We'd love we we yeah. Alright. We'd love free tickets. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Well, you guys can come to you, my shows if you want. I'll I'll, what's it called? I'll put you on guest list.
Speaker 3
Well, and it's exciting. I mean, how how excited are you that, the tours continuing and has has been extended.
Speaker 4
Super exciting. Like, I it's just my does the dream come true to get to do a tour that I don't have to promote by myself that I just get to show up to. And it's like Yeah. With the the fandom that Letter County has, I have to say are the nicest most well meaning kind like, you're just best fans. Like, it's so nice to go and not feel, you know, like the audience has the arms crossed and doesn't wanna like you Right. Because that's the case that a lot of audiences, they're like, well, this better be fucking good.
Speaker 3
Yeah. You
Speaker 4
know, but let our Kenny fans are just just seemed to be, like, the best type of people. So it's on so many levels. It's incredible. Mhmm. Traveling. I love staying in hotels. Doing this tour is actually the first leg of the tour. That's my first time ever performing in a theater. So that's a completely, completely experience as a stand up, like, the way you perform Right. Is completely different. So I learned so much from doing that. And I really feel like I was able to take that And, you know, grow as a comic. My little, indie shows that I do right before I drop. Let's let's
Speaker 3
start at the beginning though. So when did you first start, like, when did you first get on stage and get on a mic. And, like, who gave you that idea?
Speaker 4
I was, you know, sorry. I was just to go question from before. I didn't know what I wanted to do. I went to university for, I guess, people told me I was like, good at writing, which is what you say to someone who's not good at math. I don't even think I was good at writing, but then I had to become good at writing because I wasn't good at math. You know what I mean? So then I was like, I didn't know what I I remember for so long being a university and taking, like, and, like, being like, I wanna be a newscaster. Oh. But then I found out that, I mean, do you have to be a journalist? And I'm like, oh, I don't wanna do that. I I think I just kinda knew that I wanted to be on TV. Right. But I didn't ever see acting as because I was in high school. I I I wasn't in the acting program. So I'm like, well, I don't I hear it's too late. I can't be an actor. And I just felt like it was, like, too far fetched, so I never really had the ambition for it. I would spend a lot of time in university not going to class and just, like, on Twitter. I used to be, like, very, very active on Twitter. And then I remember one day I, I started watching, like, the Mindy Project.
Speaker 3
Mhmm.
Speaker 4
And I was googling while I was doing it, and I found out her story, which is that she was, like, a comic who wrote this. Am I and I just never clicked that TV writing was a job, and then it just clicked. I'm like, that's it. Oh my god. It make it just clicked on my head. I'm like, that is it. And I remember, like, I was, I used I was a dancer growing up, and I really started to dread dance in university, which I didn't have to do no one made me do it. I just, like, that those were all my friends were dancers. So I just kept dancing, and I hated it. Like, I would be hung over. I'd be binge eating. I wouldn't try. I wouldn't show I'd be late. I'd be the worst. And then I remember that night. I was like, I'm not going back to dance. Like, as soon as I decided, I'm like, well, now I know I have a path. Makes me sound like a shitty person. I don't know why I need you to solve that anecdote. Oh, no. Well, I
Speaker 3
it's funny you bring up dancing because I was gonna ask you one of your first credits or your first credit on IMDB is for a movie called, where is it here? Cody, the Robosapien, and you're not it's not an acting credit. It's a dancing So talk about that for a sec.
Speaker 4
So random. So it was just, you you know, when, like, obviously, characters and animated character will dance, They they they they videotape and then they trace the actions. I don't really know how, animation works exactly, but they videotaped us.
Speaker 3
Okay. This is before motion capture. This is twenty thirteen. So that they they would do that. And so what kind of dance are you into or or were you into?
Speaker 4
I mean, I don't even think they ended up using me. I think that they just ended up using one girl because then they wanted to make everyone look identical. Mhmm. But I got the credit nonetheless.
Speaker 2
If you're in a director's cut somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 4
I'm in a director's cut. I got the credit of my eye. It's so funny that's been the only thing on my IMDB for so long, but it gets funny.
Speaker 3
Well, you're you're adding to it now. I mean, there's a show now that just I mean, you we were supposed to have you on last Monday. But, you couldn't because of a world premiere of a new show called late bloomers. What why don't you talk a bit about that?
Speaker 4
That was, I think that's the most fun I've ever had getting to act or be on set because, like, I have a of other experiences, like, obviously Letter Kenny. Mhmm. But that was stressful because I was a doing stand up and, like, worried about representing myself as a comic as and then also it was our script. So I had other things in mind, and then I've been in, like, serious films. But this was my first time where I'm just, like, I just have to come in. Be funny, be a bitch, kinda just be myself, and then I get to leave, and just like it was so much fun It was so much fun to play with Jasmine. I don't know if you guys know Jasmine Reina. He was like a huge YouTuber. Went away for a couple of years, has been working on this project and has now reemerged into the creative space Mhmm. With this fantastic show late bloomer. Yeah, the whole cast and crew is, like, incredible. Literally in the show for half a second, and I I've milked the absolute shit out of it. I've hung out with them. I've Right. Got you know?
Speaker 0
You're saying that. But but your character I watched it. It was fantastic, by
Speaker 4
the way.
Speaker 0
And without you, that first episode wouldn't have happened. Like, you're basically the reason that all everything hit the fan in that first episode. Without spoiling shit, you are the reason. So This
Speaker 4
was me blackout drunk at three AM. Everyone's like, you're my family. I'm like, you guys are my fucking you know, I am the catalyst for this entire series, if you think about it. If I never won't spoil it. This show wouldn't be here. So we need to figure out to bring you back for season two. Everyone's like, you need to go home. Yeah.
Speaker 3
It it is
Speaker 0
a I mean, I've only watched the first episode, but it's hilarious. I'm I'm looking forward to dive into the rest of the series. Jazz meets fantastic. It it's got it's got a future. It's a it's a funny show.
Speaker 3
So this is a new series on crave. I don't know how our American are gonna be able to to watch it. Hopefully, it gets picked up by Hulu as well. But, for now, it's only available on Krave, and it's called late bloomers, and and you're in the first how many up or how long is the season?
Speaker 4
I think this season's like six. That's the total.
Speaker 3
It's okay.
Speaker 4
Maybe eight, six or eight.
Speaker 3
And you're in the first episode of the of the of and you're in the pilot?
Speaker 4
I'm in the pilot, yeah, which is nice because that's typically the episode that gets watched the most.
Speaker 3
Very cool.
Speaker 4
And like I said, I am the catalyst for the entire, Yeah. Plots. You're a mechanical person. Kind of a tag role to the plot.
Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3
Amazing.
Speaker 0
He didn't drop the ball. And there had nothing else would have happened.
Speaker 3
Now now there is another credit that's gonna be coming out soon on your MDB call for a show called Stockers? Can you talk anything about that?
Speaker 4
That is a indie movie that I, was starring in for two and a half years. It was probably gonna be four. I know because so much happened. Like, I got really injured. And then it was so it's, like, self funded by the director Paul Thompson, incredible. It's his first time, directing. He wrote this script years and years ago. And he finally got a chance to make it. I'm, like, so honored that. I'm, like, I'm I wasn't even an actor, and then he just, sought me out from he saw me on roast battle, and then he just put me on a short list. Here's the thing that's funny is that he has the same full name, Paul Thompson. As my ex boyfriend before we were dating, this is how long the movie was going on. Wow. Like, the movie, has lasted longer than the relationship. Because I thought I I deemed Paul and I was like, hey. Did you write a movie where I'm a porn star? You want me or something? And then, we started dating, and then I was in this movie and it wasn't him. Because he was like, no. What up though? And then we we and I got him in the movie in the end. He played my pimp. And then
Speaker 3
Wait. Your ex boyfriend played your Pimp in the movie.
Speaker 4
In the movie.
Speaker 3
Directed by the guy with the same name as your
Speaker 4
ex boyfriend. With the same name. He can't Pardon?
Speaker 0
There's no issues there at all.
Speaker 3
No. No. Love it.
Speaker 4
No. It's it's crazy. Yeah. And it's funny because there's no way for me to tell story without saying his name because, you know, the name that I wanna promote the name of the director without telling everyone the name, the exact name of my ex boyfriend, but Sela Vee, here we are. And I have a daughter in the movie. I don't know if this is how what the information you were looking for. I have a daughter in the movie. It's funny because, like, when we started the movie, she was thirteen. Now she's, like, fifteen going on sixteen. So she's taller than me. She's way bigger rack than me. Her hair she won't she won't cut her hair because and why would she wanna cut her hair? It's gonna be like boyhood, but not on purpose,
Speaker 3
you know. Right. Right. Right.
Speaker 4
She didn't shoot it chronologically. No.
Speaker 3
And then So when
Speaker 2
does this thing come Yeah.
Speaker 3
When's it coming out? And the the premier, your daughter's gonna look older than you.
Speaker 4
Yeah. I hope so.
Speaker 2
And you might be dating your ex boyfriend again.
Speaker 3
Yeah. We're. Yeah.
Speaker 0
Or a new Paul Thompson.
Speaker 4
Or or a new one. Yeah.
Speaker 0
We'll see.
Speaker 3
Amazing. Now you mentioned roast battles Canada, and that's kind of the first time I ever saw you. Before I knew who you were or anything about Letter Kenny, I remember specifically some of the roasts you were in. I mean, talk about that. And and one of the judges being Kay Traver, so, like, how did that come about? Was it because of your association with Letter Kenny that you got on? Or how did you get in there?
Speaker 4
I think it was more just because of stand up. I probably remember the timeline. So that was in two thousand twenty one when we shot the first season. I didn't really know Kaitrev really because he kind of, like, operates on a different Ashlon with his stand up, like, he tours as a headliner. And then, like I said, I mostly just do indie shows in Toronto or club shows in Toronto. But, yeah, it was, like, it was it was interesting because I feel like people think we know each other. We worked remote. Like, when we got the letter, Kenny job, that was, during the pandemic, and Ali and I worked together, but there's no writers room for Letter Kenny. It's all filtered through Jared. That's why the show is so his voice and it's so unique. But yeah, I don't really know Patriot of that well. But it was cool. Like, I felt like I'm, like, he, like, an alignment with him and I'm, like, that's my buddy. He probably has my back. Maybe. You know, I look up to him so much. He's such an incredible comic. Does that answer your questions?
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, I mean, so just talk about, like, being a roast comic. Like, this seems like something you ex you excel at. I hope that you take that, as a compliment, You're
Speaker 4
saying I'm a bitch? You think I'm a fucking bitch?
Speaker 3
No. I'm I'm saying you're really good at you. A little scary is is what I'm saying. A little scary. Yeah. You're a little intimidating.
Speaker 4
It was funny when I came when that late play word show came out. Like, my character is, like, the the name of the character because there's no name of the character. I got a huge, still a huge part of show. No no character name. Is like racist bitch or something like that. And then my mom
Speaker 0
She told me she
Speaker 4
was just like, it was just nice to see you be yourself on screen. She was like, you're just being Olivia. Okay.
Speaker 0
Too amazing.
Speaker 4
I'm like, my my purse my my sense of humor is very blunt and like this, but I'm I have a heart of gold. Well, I mean Yeah. I'm quick with it, and I'm Yeah. Is to it works for roasting, I think. And I also just I find roast to be like a love language. Like, I don't me and my family, I have a big family, and we all are pretty relentless and making fun of each other.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 0
So I don't know what Yeah. So when you're diving, and I'm so curious about roast. Right? They're amazing, but there's definitely, a certain skill when approaching them. Right? Like, what what sort of the train of thought going into preparing for a rose. Like, like, how do you know if you're going too far or not far enough and and, you know, Is there some pre work you're doing before? Did you know who you're going?
Speaker 3
Yeah. And does your opponent say, Hey, don't go there. Do do
Speaker 4
you We have conversations. Like, do you have any no go areas? Yeah.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Speaker 4
That's a a big thing. You'll have a conversation. Sometimes, your opponent won't give you information. And then it's like, okay. Well, gonna just call you a pedophile then. Like, I if you're not gonna give me because it's like it's better to have what I'll do when I'm preparing for a roast is I'll just accumulate as many facts as I know about them. Mhmm. And then I wish I had an example to think of right now, but it's like I'll I'll look for okay. Okay. I did wanna get Paul Thompson, my ex boyfriend, that was the first roast I ever did, which is also crazy. We weren't dating at the time. But, so it's, like, I wrote him, like, he has, like, acme. Right? And so then I'll write a bunch of associative words of that, and then it's like, oh, he's from Edmonton. So then I made it like an Edmonton oilers something about his skin being bad joke. Mhmm. And then I so it's like I'm I'm looking for things to connect of the facts about him.
Speaker 2
Okay.
Speaker 4
You know what I Now
Speaker 3
I'm trying to get the timeline straight here because because this is important. Facts are important.
Speaker 4
Please tag him when you post this.
Speaker 3
Was he was he your boyfriend aft this roast?
Speaker 0
Which which one? Like, did you did you
Speaker 3
take him apart? And then he's like, I wanna date this girl or or, was this maybe the reason you guys broke up?
Speaker 4
No. That was so that was two thousand twenty one.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Speaker 4
April, I think. Mhmm. But yes. No. That was what it was. And then made this roast battle together. I went in, to it. I felt like I had some, like, animosity against him for some reason. And then when we were sharing the stage, I it was like electric, and I was like, oh, I'm I'm I'm deeply attracted to this man, and I'm obsessed with him. And then I formed a crush on him after the fact. No. And then we I got that script later on, and then I was like, oh my god. Does he feel it too? And he wrote this movie about me. You wrote this video on me so we could share a screen again. Oh. But then that wasn't the truth, but it did give me a reason to reach out. That's incredible.
Speaker 3
Just a
Speaker 4
Beautiful love story.
Speaker 2
Couple of our
Speaker 3
rowspout I'm
Speaker 0
picturing the movie or the sitcom already. Yeah. Well, it's just gonna be called Paul Thompson, and that's it.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Oh my god. Need to get back together.
Speaker 3
Last last thing on the roast battles. Are the are these in front of live studio audience? And do you re record them all at once, or is it like How does that work?
Speaker 4
We record I think there's, like, three days of shooting and then, like, every every person on the show has two opponents. The audience this is something I'm not I'm not too crazy about. Those are paid actors. Oh, I know.
Speaker 3
That's that's disappointing. Yeah.
Speaker 4
It is disappointing. Yeah. Not only for you guys, but more so from you because it's like, well, they just tell you just laugh everything. Right. If you're not getting like a real tell.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 4
And also, it feels psychotic. I'm a stand up. I'm not, like, The idea of performing for people who are paid to laugh is, like, it makes the it already takes a level of cognitive dissonance to do stand up comedy because, like, to go on stage and, like, tell people your secrets, but then to do it and have it, like, be at this extra level of false, it it feels crazy.
Speaker 0
Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4
It feels insane.
Speaker 2
I I wonder if the American version with, Jeff Ross is done done the same way.
Speaker 4
I know. Because the other thing is that it kinda takes a level of, like, the roughness and the edge out of it because it's, like, you want there to be a potential for a joke to really bomb. Yeah.
Speaker 3
You want groaners in there too, or
Speaker 0
or, yeah, gas
Speaker 4
or something. Real responses. Yes.
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's, that's a little disappointing.
Speaker 0
Well, I don't know why. Like, yeah, I guess unless they wanna just be able to control the
Speaker 2
Maybe. It's television. They need
Speaker 4
to control it. During the day, and they wanna do it all in a chunk.
Speaker 3
Right. Yeah.
Speaker 4
You know what I mean? Because it's, like, if in order to get a live audience, they would have to do it downtown. They would have to they would have to do a number of things, and then it would still there there's always potential for it to get ruined. You know what I mean? And then you paid these Yeah. Comics for material that you don't get to use because someone stood up in the middle of the show and That's fair. Took off their pants, you know.
Speaker 0
Sure. That's fair enough.
Speaker 3
What's what's what's with the obsession with, squish melos?
Speaker 0
Damn, that that goes my question.
Speaker 3
Oh, sorry, Matt. I only ask because we're talking about our kids. My daughter is obsessed with squish melons. And so you have something
Speaker 4
you're gonna be heartbreaking to find out that I'm kind of moving on from that phase. I think it was just like a weird, I don't know. This guy is talking to told me he thinks I have, like, autism or something. I thought it was just depression because it really helped with my depression. But the way that I was collecting, does signify, something larger. But they they really helped me for a while, and I think they're cute, and they're so soft. And, yeah, now I just have four of them littering my house. But they're really good as pillows. They're amazing friends. And maybe I got it when I was going through a breakup when I got that first one. Well, I got that first one, and then I started taking pictures with it and talking about it. And then someone who works for squish mails gave me too, and then it kind of just became like a funny personality thing. And then when I was on the road with Letter Kenny, I saw one at a gas station in Ohio, and then Jeff was like, you have to buy it. And I was like, is this whole, like, squishmallow thing. Is this giving molested? And that was the hardest I've ever made Jeff off. Giving molested. I wasn't molested, by the way. I have great parents.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Speaker 4
And, no one else did either.
Speaker 3
We believe you, and this isn't that kind of podcast. So let's, we'll move on.
Speaker 4
Imagine that was just my answer. Oh, I was molested. That's why, like, Scrish pause.
Speaker 3
Talk talk about, I mean, being a comedian in Toronto, like, I I I was a big fan of a show called crashing, which is like Pete Holmes, being a comedian in New York. Yeah. Great show. What would be, like, is it the same or or would you say it's, you know, you have to do bringer shows and stuff. It seems like a lot of work at, the comedy bar. Is that kinda like your home base? Or do you, you know, how often do you get on stage, you know, all those kinds of things?
Speaker 4
Yeah, I get on stage as often as I can, like, between, like, seven and sometimes, like, fifteen times a week. Like, I Obviously, on the weekends, you can do a lot more. Mhmm. I like to do, like, three or four shows on Fridays and Saturdays. Maybe I'm being exaggerate. To put that number, but I try to get up as much as I can. I if if I'm asking you to spot on there. Like, it's my favorite thing in the world to do. It is very similar to the New York seeing it smaller, obviously, but it functions more or less the same. And then the ceiling is a lot lower. Like, we don't have the type of opportunities. It's just like, how many an agent can be in the audience that'll change your life and that you it's an historic comedy seller. So we don't have the same, you know,
Speaker 0
What are some of your favorite venues to plant? Like, I I know, like I said, it's not a massive market, but there's, like, the corner comedy. There's comedy bar. There's
Speaker 3
Yac yaks.
Speaker 0
Yeah. Yac yaks. What's the one up on Aglinton? Is it still their abs?
Speaker 4
Absolutely. You know what? A lot of these stages, it sucks because, like, Yakioxx is actually downtown as one of my favorite stages to be on, but their protocol for, having comics is, like, extremely strict. And, like, I I'd have to leave I'd I I have had a lot of conversations with Mark Breslin about working there because I really would like to. And, you know, it's one of the only, institutions that offers opportunities to do long sets.
Speaker 0
Right.
Speaker 4
Which I want to do more often to work on alongside, obviously. So I can continue to grow as a comic, but I'd have to leave my agent because they need to be your agent. But my agent's been good to me. So I just
Speaker 2
Oh, wow.
Speaker 4
It's, yeah, it's, it's complicated.
Speaker 3
You know, you had a mark on your podcast before. Now, those who don't know Mark Breslin is the owner of, yach yach yach yachs is kind of a a chain of comedy bars throughout Canada. Right? It's not just in Toronto.
Speaker 0
I know. The only
Speaker 4
guest I've ever had on my podcast.
Speaker 3
But I mean, yeah, if you get in on yuck yucks, I mean, you you don't have to just work in Toronto. Right? You can work across Canada, right, at other at other yuck yucks.
Speaker 4
Totally. Yeah. Yeah. You could do that with or without Yak yaks. The thing about Yak yaks is it used to be a lot, a lot more What's the word of a a thing that you kind of needed to Right.
Speaker 3
It was a bigger deal than it is. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yeah. It's, it's but because I think, I mean, just the game of stand up is changing a little bit.
Speaker 3
Sure.
Speaker 4
But, yeah, Yakiks is, like, an incredible historic institution. It's cool to, like, be overlapping within. I've gotten to play that stage because again, that room is fantastic. But I really like the cab space, the cabaret space. A comedy bar west. I fucking love a comedy bar Dan fourth, the main stage. That actually might be my favorite stage. So fun.
Speaker 0
Did did you ever play the the old, the the previous location for corner comedy? A tiny little space.
Speaker 4
All of the iterations. Yeah. They they're all They
Speaker 0
love that little space. There's no hiding there. I love that little space. There was no hiding there.
Speaker 4
Yep. That was actually the first, the first comedy show I ever went to watch in Toronto was, the comedy, the corner comedy club, the original one on John Street.
Speaker 3
Very cool.
Speaker 0
It's a fun space.
Speaker 3
Just up the road from, where you used to work at Gretzky's.
Speaker 4
Yes.
Speaker 2
Great. So so did you actually work there or that's just part of your act?
Speaker 4
Yeah. I worked there. One of the worst jobs I've ever had in my life.
Speaker 3
I love I love your your
Speaker 2
And you actually didn't and you actually thought he was dead.
Speaker 4
I'd know. I didn't think he was dead. I've that that's a punchline, but, I didn't recognize him. And I was just like, I can't be serving this guy because I'm, like, I'm gonna, like, I don't know.
Speaker 3
Oh, for the longest time, the the back of Gretzky's used to be also the home for, second
Speaker 4
city. Yeah.
Speaker 0
Exactly. Did you ever did
Speaker 3
you ever mingle with those folks? So they Were you ever ever into improv?
Speaker 4
I when I started stand up, so going back to that, the original question of when I started, so I read Mindy Kaling's book. And then the instruction of, like, how to start stand up or straight how to get into comedy writing was to do either stand up or improv because like, you have to do comedy for yourself, learn how to write for yourself, learn how to articulate humor. If you're in a writer's room, you'll wanna know how to pitch a joke, write a joke, then I was like, word. Okay. I'll take a stand up. I'll take a writing class. Mhmm. And then I will take a improv class. I'll take a stand up class. I took all of those at second city. And then I just fell in love with stand up.
Speaker 3
Very cool.
Speaker 4
So that's also why I worked out Gretzkis because he was right there when I was taking classes at second city.
Speaker 0
Fair enough. I know I was gonna take us towards letter cam. One more question on stand up. When early on, when you're refining your your, your act, was it were you as sounds right, but, like, were you as crude out of the gate or Like, was your approach to it a little cleaner when you started before you kind of found your confidence just throw the the nasty out there? Or like, what how did you start and where did you how did it evolve?
Speaker 4
I was far more crude when I started.
Speaker 0
Really? Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 4
I was just bombing. Yeah. Of course. That's the thing thing thing about stand up. That's like I think people don't realize, and I'm very reluctant to use the word brave to, describe a stand up comedian because, we're far too pathological to even anyways, you have to it's the only art form where you have to practice publicly. You know what I mean? You have so you have to be bad you have to be bad at anything before you're good at it. But first, you have to be bad in front of people. And just shoulder that until you figure it out and you try to be honest with yourself, like, watch your sets back and be like, why isn't this working? And then you just figure it out. Mhmm. Wow.
Speaker 3
Very cool. Yeah.
Speaker 4
So, yeah, I had to learn. Like, I'm like, I would I would just be, like, the worst my my most crude jokes, like, My most crude jokes are my first jokes. And now I've learned to, like, kind of cushion them with slightly less crude jokes.
Speaker 0
So you're, like, overexide. You came out stronger. These ones are gonna nail, then they didn't. And like, oh, shit. That was
Speaker 4
too hard. That was the other thing that was crazy is it's just like when I would do jokes and and and being like, I'm like, it's that that that's the other reason why I think it's kinda brave is it's like you're going on stage and you're like, I can't I don't have the ability to switch gears if I'm bombing. Like, now I'm bombing. I'm like, okay. They don't like that. So I'll do this. You only have five or six jokes when you're starting to stand up. So it's like Yeah.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 4
Well, you're if you if you hated that one, guess what, folks? You're gonna fucking hate this one too. You know what I mean? I mean, I mean, you just do it. You just do it anyways. This is like that's the only thing you have, and you have to do the job. The job is to do five minutes or seven minutes or whatever it is. But, yeah, you just figure it out.
Speaker 3
Or let's get to, the part of the show that everyone's waiting for, and that's to talk about letter Kenny. And I've got a little, clip here. We're talking about a lot of both stand up comedy here. The episode that you're on in Letter Kenny season twelve, one of their their regular cast members tried stand up comedy, and she talks a little bit about it here.
Speaker 1
So, yeah, I could ask for, like, stage present advice timing, but I think you you learn better by just kinda watching and absorbing. And I definitely had a lot of opportunities to do that watching, Trevor, and Mark on the road.
Speaker 3
Yeah. And I imagine Ali and Olivia because they're kind of more standard stand up comics. Might have had, you know, some tips for you.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, they wrote it. They wrote that. Right. Yeah. They wrote all the stand up for that episode. And they're so great and so supportive. And when I was on the stage sweating and so nervous. I looked over at them a few times, and they were giving me big beaming smiles and being so sweet about it. So, yeah, they were they were great.
Speaker 3
That was, Michelle Mylett talking about, you know, her first try at stand up comedy. Now can you remember, like, I'm sure you remember that, you know, shooting that. Were there any what kind of pointers were you giving Michelle before she got on stage?
Speaker 4
I don't know if we were giving her pointers because that was the other thing that was interesting to me is She was really nervous about, quote, unquote, doing stand up. Mhmm. But it was like, this isn't it to me, it fell. I'm like, this isn't doing stand up. This is just acting.
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 4
Because we're on set right now in front of like, that's why again, with, like, the roast battle Canada, feel felt like when they're when you're performing in front of paid actors, it's, like, doesn't feel like doing standard, but I also recognize that Mhmm. That's there is a hybrid experience. So, obviously, she's I don't know. I think she did a really great job. I don't know if there is pointers to be given for stand up because for everyone, what they're coming with and what they need to change and what they need to improve on is so unique to what they're doing.
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 4
But it is very exciting. To watch someone, you know, do a good job or, like, try standing for the first time, especially a woman. Like, I'm always excited. You know, to be there, like, smiling and being like, you're doing fucking great, which you are, you know. And I don't does that answer the question?
Speaker 3
Yeah. Pretty. Yeah. Pretty much. We were blown away when we talked to Michelle that her background, like, she started off in improv. So, Oh. Yeah. She kinda had that comedy.
Speaker 4
Just a comedy experience.
Speaker 3
In improv. Yeah. But not in stand up. And, I guess, they're two very different disciplines, but, is interesting to find out about that about her. Al, like, how well do you know Al? Well, actually, let's start with how did you get involved in Letter Kenny? How did they did they reach out to you? Or How did that happen?
Speaker 4
It was it was crazy. It was it's so funny. Like, I it hasn't really happened to me since, but I don't know. I guess sometimes you get an email that just changes your life forever, and that's what that was because it happened. Right before the pandemic. I was twenty five years old. They asked us to write that international woman's day episode. And then we did, and they the other is right. The other thing is Ali was already my best.
Speaker 3
Okay.
Speaker 4
And then we wrote that together and it made us closer. And it was so much fun. And then Jared was really, really happy with our work, and he was busy with a few other things. And he was like, Hey, would you guys wanna take these scripts and, like, add some jokes, punch them up. Mhmm. And then we did, and then he was really impressed with that. And then he just decided to take us fully on as punch up writers. And it was like a dream come true for me and Ali, like, to get to work together as best friends and become closer and I I I can't even put into words, like, how incredible, incredible, and life changing Mhmm. Letter Kenny has been because doing that. And then he gave us more of the second season. Next season, he led his rightful episodes, which meant more money, which meant I didn't have to work at fucking Wayne Gretzky's anymore. Like, when I came back from the pandemic, I was full time stand up because he changed my life over that time period, you know, and And now I get to do this full time, which is really, really, really difficult in this country. Mhmm. And I get to apply for my visa now because I have these credits. I don't know if this is answering the question. Ali is my best friend. I think it's all a dream come true. It really is.
Speaker 3
Do you knew Ally from the circuit, I guess, from from the cops?
Speaker 4
We actually started same month.
Speaker 0
Okay.
Speaker 4
Oh. Yeah. We've met at a competition, like an amateur competition.
Speaker 3
Very cool. We're gonna have her on next week, so looking for so If
Speaker 4
so If
Speaker 3
there's anything you wanted to say about her right now, I we will play it for her.
Speaker 4
She's a fucking bitch.
Speaker 3
Never.
Speaker 5
Do you, collaborate in person then or on on, online with her?
Speaker 4
We collaborate online because we get too distracted. IRL. Yeah. We'll just, like, start smiling and laughing and, you know,
Speaker 3
So is this letter Kenny presents to her that, we saw you in bur Burlington. Is this the first time you're you've been touring with, your comedy?
Speaker 4
Yeah. I guess so.
Speaker 3
Mhmm. And, like, playing soft seats, venues and and that kind of stuff?
Speaker 4
Well, I mean, like, I've quote unquote gone on tour being like, I have, like, I'll go to Montreal. I'll go to a bunch of spots. So I'll go to Vancouver and do a bunch of spots, but, like, no one's coming out to like, you'll just make a tour poster to make it look like you're more important than you are. So, yeah, this would be the first time I I'm on a real tour for sure.
Speaker 3
So talk about that a bit being on the road with, these four comics, or three comics, Mark forward, Jeff McHenry, and and Ali Pierce. How's that been?
Speaker 4
I was I can't even it it was such a life highlight to get to do my favorite thing. Like, I love staying in hotels. That's not my favorite stand up is my favorite thing. But getting to do it with Ali, and then two comics I look up to enormously. I it and getting to grow as a comic and be on a it it was so much fun, and I only had more fun with every show. It was I don't know. I can't really even express in words how much it meant and how much it means.
Speaker 0
Were there any locations or venues that you did on the tour that stood out? Like, place you'd love to go back?
Speaker 4
I really, like, I know the Boston show Mark Ford makes jokes about it because that guy stood up and sang, but that was my favorite show because the venue was so amazing. I really enjoy, American audiences, they really they really make me understand, like, why South Park depicts us Canadians the way that they do. Like, we're we're a flattened version. We are a flattened version of, Americans are just, like, electric and, I don't know, personality wise, and it's just, like, you can feel that in the room when you're performing in front of Americans. I got no Tina shirt to connect my I love I'm a patriot.
Speaker 3
Now you're, you mentioned the Boston show, our listeners, we told them that you're gonna be on, and they gave us a bunch of questions. First one here's from our buddy, Jeff, in Maine. And he said you were hilarious at the Boston show. Do you have any funny or strange stories from this? Or any tour you've been on.
Speaker 4
From Boston? Yes. Specifically? Yeah.
Speaker 3
Or any Or any of the other stops.
Speaker 4
Or any of the other shots.
Speaker 3
But he was he was at your Boston show, and he said you were hilarious.
Speaker 4
I I'm trying to think of funny stuff. I've I should've reread my, my my tour journal before this.
Speaker 3
Oh, you can't kept a journal. Blanking out.
Speaker 4
Yeah. And there'll be a sub stack. So look out for it. Once I once I finish the whole tour, I think, I'm just gonna do a tour tour diary. Sub stack post.
Speaker 0
Now we just link this part of the interview to the sub stack once that's ready. Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yeah. So that's where you can find your answer, King. Jeff from Maine.
Speaker 3
Very good.
Speaker 4
Stay tuned.
Speaker 3
Not that he would ever, in any way, condone such behavior at his show, but what's the best heckle you've ever gotten, and that's from Trace in Tennessee.
Speaker 4
What's the best heckle I've ever gotten? I had a heckle the other I mean, it wasn't a heckle. It was, someone, like, I was, like, doing comedy and she was, like, she ate, like when someone screens like that, but that's not a heckle. I I guess the only heckle that I condone is when, like, someone says I'm beautiful or attractive or something like that. That is it's unacceptable to heckle. If you must, please make it a combo now. Very cool. Or, you know, like, a heckle. So it's not, I guess, it's how you define heckling because some people just speak out of turn. Like, some people will be like, oh, that's fucking funny, or that's smart. That's a good joke. So that's not heckling. Like, that's just like a, you know, involuntary response that it's,
Speaker 0
like, you know wanna be heard.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Or no. That's just like, you know, when you, I don't know. I I do that sometimes. Like, I'll just speak. I'll be like, oh my god. Oh, that's funny. You know what I mean? Just like an involuntary response, but a heckle.
Speaker 0
Or, like, how would someone challenges you on your shit? Like mid mid act? Does that happen?
Speaker 4
Oh, yeah. Some or sometimes, you know what? Sometimes there have been times where people will ask a question for me to, like, elucidate what I'm talking about. And either it'll make me realize that I haven't done that, made it clear enough what I'm talking about, or it'll give me an opportunity to, like, respond to them, give another joke. I I don't wanna condone heckles because I don't, you know, wanna encourage that behavior. But it's not my least favorite thing in the world, honestly, because I tend to be pretty quick, and it usually earns me out their laugh when I get to respond to headquarters.
Speaker 3
You have a a
Speaker 2
a favor. So, you know, you're you're quick witted wittedness. So, yeah, I was just gonna ask, like, your quick witness would kind of almost position you for to be the kind of comic that would interact with audiences and ask questions and kinda build on that. Is that something that you you you kind of work into your act sometimes?
Speaker 4
I do. I used to do a lot of crowd work and a lot of that, but now I'm finding that there's, like, an oversaturation of crowd work because people wanna post stand up, but they don't wanna burn their material before they're ready to. So now there's, like, such an oversaturation of, crowd work. And when I'm at shows now, I'm, like, really noticing. Comics doing, like, almost no material because they're like, they just wanna get clips. They just wanna get crowd work clips. And then it's kind of I find it, like, it's, like, bastardizing and, like, verting the the medium a little bit, and it's now it now it's, you know, it's something that I'm good at and I enjoyed, but now it's pissing me off.
Speaker 0
Right. Yeah. So on that, I would, like, in the recent episode you guys were in in season twelve there, did you write all the bits for that stand up? Including including Wayne or Jared's piece, right, where he was doing crowd work, and he was very just talking to people. Like, there was no actual jokes, like, Was that intentional and that and that a take for Wayne?
Speaker 4
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's what we were most excited to watch because we were like, oh, it's gonna be so funny to watch him, like, think he's doing crowd work, but then having these most, like, banal conversations with people. And we were just, like, it was it was very satisfying to like, picture that and then get to watch it.
Speaker 0
Oh, crap. We're gone wrong or right. Depending how you look at it.
Speaker 4
Watching him do it. Like, I almost almost wish they didn't cut it. Like, it as much as they did because watching him do it with all the silences in between and the just stillness was so funny.
Speaker 3
So uncomfortably funny. I'm sure.
Speaker 0
Was that your was that your guy's first time on Saturday? Are you there for international women's as well?
Speaker 4
That was our first time on set. I think we were invited before, but we were just busy with whatever.
Speaker 0
Mhmm. Very
Speaker 3
cool. Our buddy, Jay from Edmonton. He asked, one of my favorite episodes of Letter Kenny is International Women's Day. I can't imagine how much fun it was to write some of the ladies dialogue that day. Did you guys come up with anything that didn't make the cut or was deemed too much?
Speaker 4
Shit. I really should've looked at my Google docs before this because me and Ali kept getting this question Oh, yeah. During the Q and A's. And then it made me go We need to take some time to go look and because I know every single time we would submit jokes to Jared. He's such a sweetheart. Or just so encouraging and just, like, the bat like, he would always tell it, us, his highlights, like his favorite jokes that we submitted, and he would, you know, like say, like, five or six of them. It was always actually nice because it's like we submitted all in a chunk. But it would always be half alleys and half mine. Yeah. So it know. It's like really interesting that it worked out that way. It made us both feel like, okay. We're both pulling our weight. Mhmm. Equally if it almost is always like that. Anyways, there would always be a joke that I'm like, there why not that one? That one's so funny. But, you know, There there's also, like, I don't know, something that I would say in my act that I would think is really funny would not be funny if someone else said it twice first
Speaker 0
Yeah.
Speaker 4
Especially someone who is a character and, like, you know, character driven Mhmm. Comedy is different than Stand it up.
Speaker 3
Well, that'd be a good sub stack post would be just all of the ones that didn't make the cut. You know, just That's
Speaker 4
a good idea, Joy.
Speaker 0
Yeah. We'll insert it into this question as well. We're gonna have a whole bunch of sub stacks injected into your interview here. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4
Well, maybe I actually should just look through those and just recycle whatever jokes, but I would not know. Here's the other problem is I wouldn't know who if Ali wrote it on me, so then I couldn't steal your joke.
Speaker 3
Tobias from Missouri has a a million in one questions here, but I'll ask a few here. There's been talk about, like, some universal spin offs, so spin Mutter Kenny and or Shoresy. Are you do you know anything about any of them, or would you be involved in any in writing in any of those?
Speaker 4
Why don't I get any audio questions?
Speaker 3
Audio questions.
Speaker 4
Like, I I was listening to Mark Ford before this and you got some people, they had to hear their voices. I wanna hear Tobias. I didn't know that was the real name.
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. No. This is no no recording. Sorry.
Speaker 4
We'll do that on we'll
Speaker 0
do another interview. We'll get some audio ones.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Have me back. I'm honestly out guys. This is disrespectful. Victor is your mic off. I miss you. Sorry. I don't know if if anything is gonna happen. I think that they've, you know, put out some teaser teaser type things. If they do, like, I fucking hope to god that I'm involved. I really, really, really hope I'm involved. And I hope that happens because it seems like there's, like, a hunger and a want for it. So I'm and but if I knew, I couldn't say anyways, but I don't know.
Speaker 3
To buy something, they
Speaker 4
don't tell me because of a liability. And I just talked about my ex boyfriend, Ad nauseam, on a podcast, Right.
Speaker 2
You know, you keep mentioning your ex boyfriend. Is that are are you trying to put vibes out into the world that you're ready for a new boyfriend? Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 4
No. I'm really not ready for a new boyfriend. Why are you interested?
Speaker 2
Well, you can kind of let your fans know kind of what your, you know, dream date is, like, what activities you'd like to do on your date. You know, so people can learn about you a little bit.
Speaker 4
Okay. You know what? I have dated so many broke men that can't drive, and I've loved the fuck out of them. And I think I'm ready to date someone who a has their g two. And b Okay.
Speaker 2
So an Uber delivery driver. Got it.
Speaker 4
No. No. I've No. You need a speed of the Uber driver. I need No.
Speaker 0
It wants speed too.
Speaker 4
I've already proved to the world. I'm not a gold digger. I need someone rich now. It's my turn.
Speaker 0
You've earned it.
Speaker 4
Is it gonna be my turn? You was like Lana?
Speaker 2
So somebody that comes with a driver?
Speaker 4
No. I don't even hear that.
Speaker 3
Well, maybe it's tobias because he's gonna see you both in Indianapolis and Kansas City and he's offering to buy you a beer on in either city when you guys go there.
Speaker 4
But I'm not I don't think I'm invited on those stops.
Speaker 3
No. So, is it because Come
Speaker 4
him to fly me out if he's reg? Yeah. If he's so rude, why doesn't he find me out and ask them to be on the end of the show?
Speaker 3
He will listen to this and and and get back to you with an answer.
Speaker 4
Well, DM Me tobias.
Speaker 3
Let's see here. Do you have any more?
Speaker 4
I got I really I talked to all my DM. Right? Here's my best friends. The the wind beneath my wings. Mhmm.
Speaker 3
Matt can attest to that. Here, here's one from our friend Casey in Virginia. She said, do you have any more stillborn jokes? That you can share with us on Insta Soon, and that Andy Grammer bit was hilarious and on point.
Speaker 4
Oh, thanks. I didn't even know what she was talking about for a second. Yeah. I was thinking about doing that because one thing I've really noticed from watching, watching my sets back. Like, I I keep all my sets in, like, a folder on my laptop, and I will go back and watch them sometimes. To just, like, you know, track my growth and see. Also, I I'll notice I'm like, oh my god. I I stopped telling that joke, but I never really did anything with it. Because it either died. It stopped having, like, I don't know, like, whatever juice it had. Mhmm. And I'm like, I feel like I should just start posting jokes that I can tell are, not gonna proliferate into, like, something that stays in the real act that I'm building. Having said that, it makes me insecure sometimes because I'm like, I don't want people to think that the jokes I put on Instagram are my best jokes because my best jokes are ones that I'm still polishing and not ready to put out yet. Right. But whatever.
Speaker 3
Find find balance there. Our buddy, Jess from Australia. This is an important point here. He asked if you could go on the road internationally outside of Canada in the US, what would be your ultimate destination asks Jazz from Australia?
Speaker 4
Just from Australia, fly me to Australia. You sound hot. I wanna come. I like the beach. Yeah. I'll come to Australia. Yeah. Thank you for the offer, Jazz, DM me.
Speaker 0
We can attest. You totally interpreted that. You're aware I love.
Speaker 3
Jazz is a good looking dude. Any plays guitar, so there you go.
Speaker 2
Yeah. And the accent's nice as well.
Speaker 3
And he's got a good I
Speaker 4
actually don't want a boyfriend yet, but, people can start, like, submitting their, their resumes. I will need one eventually, and I won't have a baby if that does something you're interested in, Jess? Is that your answer to your question? Yeah. I wanna go into it. I wanna go into it all over the world, but I get more fans first. So spread the word as you say a lot. Next question. Casey,
Speaker 3
asks, what is your advice for women trying to get into comedy?
Speaker 4
Same as any gender. Just go out and do it. And do not don't start fucking people at the open mics. Do not start fucking, bunch of male comedians because I've seen so many girls with potential. I don't know if this is coming across the wrong way, but I'm already already started. I've seen a lot of great great women with potential, stopped doing comedy because they fuck someone or they fuck too many people, and then the men kind of band together, and then they just feel awkward like, again, the ratio of men to women at OpenMikes is in men's favor. So then it's like, you just feel awkward. Like, I've I've had sexist comedians, and I feel awkward, but I'm so ingratiated the scene that it wouldn't make sense for me to not go, but I could see at a different point in my career if I'd had done that early. I don't know if I would have had the confidence to just show up and continue to also bomb and be bad and try to get better at comedy in front of people that So, yeah, do comedy. Don't fuck people. People are gonna try to fuck you. You sound hot. Do it. Right, comedy? And then do it.
Speaker 2
But don't do them.
Speaker 4
But don't do them. Wait until you're a couple of years then or, find the one them to them to be your boyfriend for four years what I did. For my first four years of comedy, I had the same boyfriend. And, yes, he was a comedian and no, he couldn't drive.
Speaker 0
You're in Toronto. You don't need a car.
Speaker 3
Are, our friend? Cassie from SIMco, Ontario. She's been to a few of your shows. You might know her. She was with us at in Burlington as well. She said, you were hilarious at both shows I went to and were so kind when I met you during the VIP. Thank you. For her question. What advice well, you just gave the advice for women who wanna get into comedy. But she all a second part of her question was, do you find there are different industry standards for women than there are for men. It sounds like you do.
Speaker 4
I mean, I wouldn't even know how to get into all that because it's so just enveloped into so many elements of it. Like, I, you know, like, it's, like, I I was having a conversation with, like, Ally today on via voice note. Where it's like, oh, yeah. Like, you know, there's, like, intricacies that I'm like, that happens because, woman blah blah blah, but I don't know if I could just, like, lay out you know, a rubric of what to expect. Mhmm. But you wanna start doing comedy casting? That's amazing. Do it.
Speaker 3
Yeah. She's been threatening to to to do it for a while now. It'd be great. We'd we'd be there to see her. No problem.
Speaker 0
Did you have any, comedians that you looked up too or or saw on the road, you're like, I just fucking love them as you were finding your voice.
Speaker 4
Yeah. I mean, people wanna shit on Amy Schumer, but I wouldn't have started stand up if she didn't exist because she was really huge in comedy. And I didn't realize that I was like, oh my god, dumb slut can do this too. And I thought you were the funniest person in the world, you know, and, like, because it's like she spoke to me and, like, retrospectively, I walked the jokes now and I, like, I see what people are talking about. They're not, entirely original, but this is something that I, I I'm trying to, like, remember when I'm trying to be less precious about my material and my jokes and my writing is that it's, like, it's not your jokes that are funny, it's you that's funny. Mhmm. And it's, like, obviously, both are funny, but it's Yeah. You would rather watch if you like a comic, you'll watch them say anything. Right?
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 4
So it really I just, like, found her so, so, so funny, and I just, like, I hadn't seen that before. And, like, that happened like, when I read the Mindy Kaling book, and then I was like, oh, stand up. And then I, like, looked up female stand up comedians, and I saw her. And I was just, like, smitten. And then I, you know, Nikki Glazer was another huge huge influence for me. Sarah Silverman, you know, all the all the classics. And then Rebecca Coler in Toronto, and, I'm a huge fan of Catherine Cohen and Jordan Jensen. So many people I look up to.
Speaker 0
Have you ever had the opportunity to meet any of them?
Speaker 4
I opened for Jordan Jensen when she was in Toronto. She's incredible. I, I was gonna do Catherine Cohen's show in New York, but then the pandemic happened, but she responds to my DMs when I when I messaged her, which means a lot.
Speaker 0
She's Yeah. That's nice.
Speaker 4
She's one of the most original, hilarious voices and comedy, I think.
Speaker 3
Gordon from Toronto, he said he really enjoyed seeing you in Burlington as well. He's curious how you found the transition to in front of the camera, like, for the live at Moody. Well, that wasn't your first acting. But anyway, going from stage to front of the camera, how is that transition for you.
Speaker 4
Me and Ali actually had that conversation that, doing roast battles first Right. Was good for informing that stand up acting hybrid. Mhmm. You know, because, like, when I was first seeing that, the roast battle thing, I was, like, it was pretty jarring. And then the when I came around the second season. I realized I'm like, oh, just treat it like you're it gives an acting gig. If I would I would retake jokes. Like, you can pause and be like, I'm gonna take that again. So that's how me and Ali
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 4
Did that, like, whenever it would be clunky, you could just stop and it it it was interesting to treat stand up, like, acting. Mhmm. It made it pretty relaxing. It was interesting. I don't know. I also I can bare barely watch. That episode. I mean, I did watch it and I was very proud of myself, and it was really cute and heartwarming and, you know, everything. But I feel like I've already grown as a stand up since that. So I remember some of the choices I made acting and doing stand up that I don't think I make as a comment now. So I don't know if it's, like, fully representative of me as a comedian, but Right. I don't think it's really about that anyways.
Speaker 3
Letter Kenny loves those slow motion scenes. What were you thinking during that slow pullout scene? You know, you and Ali are sitting at the bar? And it takes forever to to to zoom out. How long does that scene take to shoot? Is it, like, split second? And and if so, like, what are you thinking? I actually don't move.
Speaker 4
I have no memory of that shot. It was, like, I think it was the loss. You're seeing
Speaker 0
your face. You're like, wait, what?
Speaker 4
No. When I saw that shot, I was, like, I transfixed. I love that shot. It's an incredible shot. Yeah. I think I was probably just worried about, like, the way I was, like, sitting on a chair and a crop top. Trying to suck in as much as humanly possible. That's probably what I was thinking about. I can't I mean, if you look at my face, I look brained at as hell. So I'd imagine that's what I was thinking about. Suck in queen
Speaker 3
And our
Speaker 4
suck your shit in queen. Right.
Speaker 3
Riley and Jonesi's dance moves as funny in person as they are on on screen.
Speaker 4
I don't I don't know because it's like I on screen, I'm able to see them as the characters. Sure. But in real life, I could only see them as the people that they are. So I, like, I, you know, I think I think funny you're on screen because I they become the characters on screen where versus, like, every time there's a cut, there's such a vast difference between, you know, Andrew and, Dylan? Dylan. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. He's not going to listen to this. Do you think the cost listens to this?
Speaker 3
Some of them do. Jared does.
Speaker 0
So
Speaker 4
Oh, hey.
Speaker 0
Yeah. So I'll I'll I'll re hold on. Really quickly on that one. When you were on was there anyone that really caught you off guard when you met the real version of them versus what
Speaker 4
you had come to known in
Speaker 0
their dialogue and their portrayal on screen?
Speaker 4
I feel like Gail is the classic example. Like, Gail is the most vast difference between her eyebrow and her character.
Speaker 0
That's fair.
Speaker 3
Our final listener question here. What is your favorite line that you didn't write? And what's a favorite line that you'd had that you did right. And that's from our buddy, Dennis in the UK.
Speaker 4
Here we go again making me wish I went through the Google Docs.
Speaker 3
We'll just have to have you back on with all these.
Speaker 4
You have to. You have to. You have to. I'm gonna miss about the fact
Speaker 0
that we're I'm
Speaker 4
trying I had some, like, oh, it's a called I remember I don't think these are the funniest things that didn't make it in, but I remember thinking they were really funny. What did I have? I had some band names. Like, we a lot of them, you'd be like, you would just have to sorry. I'm I'm struggling, like, punny, kind of band names, like, that they'll just, like, rifle off.
Speaker 3
Yeah.
Speaker 4
What did I have? I had okay. Wait. Can we maybe you'll just edit this part out? Like, maybe I will pull up a Google doc.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Go ahead. I I don't edit, but, we can, you know, vamp while while you look at
Speaker 0
the process. We do whatever we want here.
Speaker 4
Right? Just talk amongst your
Speaker 3
say you listened to the the mark the Mark Forward, interview. Did you hear Victor's, joke that that he told
Speaker 4
No. No. I was I was transporting for parts.
Speaker 0
That would have made sense to fast forward.
Speaker 3
Yeah. It would have made complete sense.
Speaker 2
I was helping the man who now he knows. He's got somebody count on it. He's, you know, a light on material.
Speaker 3
No. If he knows, and if he knows, if he wants to save his career, he will completely ignore
Speaker 2
I'll I'll give I'll give you a softy while you're looking through your Google Docs. So let's say you're, you know, you're an introvert.
Speaker 0
It really wants a softy, man.
Speaker 2
Settle down, settle down. So let's say, you know, you have to kind of, you had an opportunity to go into writing, acting, or stand up. You know, where do you levitate? Where do you go? I
Speaker 4
I think I'm a through and through stand up. Like, I really love doing stand up, but, I I would never wanna give up any of them, to to be honest. The more I do of all of them, the more I I love and the more I see that they lend to each other and, you know,
Speaker 3
So you're hoping for more for more acting jobs?
Speaker 4
I would love more acting jobs. Those are what pay the most, and they're really fun. And I'm, like, I also am just, like, the I'm I feel like a newbie acting. So it's kind of exciting to figure that out. I mean, all of these art forms are really excited, exciting to figure out and get better at. But acting is the thing that makes people, like, acknowledge your career the most because people don't see the work that goes into stand up. Most like, I do so much stand up and so much goes into stand up, but people only see what actually gets aired. So it's it's funny that, like, don't know. Whenever something's on TV, that's what people think is, like, the epitome of my work when it doesn't feel that way to me. Yeah. But it's nice to have those things to point to so that people, believe in you. Right.
Speaker 0
Yeah.
Speaker 4
Well, I mean, if your parents get so proud when you're on TV. Sure.
Speaker 0
Like, like, I follow on Instagram. I'm sure a lot of others listening here do as well, and you're out there grinding every week. Like, I can see it. And the passion you just want I seen a lot of your comments in your stories. You're like, you just wanna perform, and there's such a passion there. And, I mean, I've seen you live as well. It definitely comes through. So
Speaker 4
Thank you.
Speaker 0
I can't wait to see where it goes.
Speaker 4
Yeah. I'm all I'm constantly just Oh, wait.
Speaker 0
There you go. We're about to have a subscription.
Speaker 4
Some of these because these are all I'll just be dying laughing. I I used to get so high and just They're not even gonna find all American retards, one erection, rape fan Morrison, jizzy red, red hot, drunk, e cocks, nine inch cocks.
Speaker 0
Wait. Red out. What?
Speaker 4
Red hot chunky cocks. Summed out. I'm grateful on the some of these are not even funny in retrospect, but I remember three doors down syndrome. That one's good. That's for Adam Lee Veeam died getting other shitty tattoo. I don't even know what this is for. Paralyzed.
Speaker 0
That one's brilliant.
Speaker 2
I think three doors down is a restaurant as well, so that could work for that. Sure.
Speaker 3
Anyway, Ali.
Speaker 4
Of Leon's don't pay a cent event. It's so stupid.
Speaker 3
Things of Leon's stuff. I like that one.
Speaker 4
The the craisins. Now that they're they're old, they go by the craisins. The grandpa's kid, these are getting stupid.
Speaker 0
I like to move forward one. That was great.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Ten, do you have any final questions for Ali?
Speaker 0
Or for Olivia.
Speaker 3
It can
Speaker 4
be a moderator to be a thing.
Speaker 3
Or or
Speaker 4
a boy. He don't he don't jump off a bridge after this guy.
Speaker 3
I I
Speaker 0
I feel I feel same.
Speaker 3
I feel shame.
Speaker 4
Do a sound board this whole time?
Speaker 0
Yes. Hello? She has to be around two now, because she's very disappointed with this performance.
Speaker 4
That she
Speaker 2
is holding back.
Speaker 4
I'm having a blast. You guys are a great podcast.
Speaker 3
I'm sure. You.
Speaker 5
Olivia, thank you so much for sharing your time with us. You've been fantastic to talk to. My questions is, who do you enjoy writing for the most? There's some so many strong female characters like Katie Mc Missus McMurray, Gail, Tannis, Bonnie, that all being said, there's also Glenn and Coach, like, do you do you have somebody that you love writing for?
Speaker 4
I think that I don't know if it's one character really ever. Like, I it's always fun to do, like, the Riley and Jonesie bouncing back and forth because the way I'll write is, like, I'll think of a lot of, like, the next thing that would be said. And sometimes I have to cut myself off and, like, reduce, but fund out that and then be like, and then what would happen after that? And then then what would happen? So then Mary and Betty have that same Yes. Dynamic. So they're all really fun to write for. But honestly, it's all just it's all just the same amount of fun. I really couldn't rank it.
Speaker 5
Do do you when you are collaborating then, do you pick, like, whether you're Riley and, the your your, co writer is Jonesy and just try to go back and forth with what the the banter would be.
Speaker 4
No. It would be, like, I would just think of a a bit, again, my head. And then but it would be really, really, really satisfying when one of us would would come into the Google Google Doc because because I I would write at night and Natalie would write in the morning, so we would always get to, like, log into the Google doc to find each other's work, and then we would just be laughing, you know, and then adding jokes and tags to the other person's stuff, which was so exciting being like, oh my god. You just, like, I thought it had a punch line, but now you added, like, a real punch line or a tag or, you know. So yeah, it was always really, really fun. It was Yeah. And again, it's one of those things that just it made me love out even more and made us even closer knowing how well we could work together because that can be a scary thing as friends and colleagues, comedians, you know what I mean? It's just like, oh, I wanna work with you because I respect you so much. And I think you're so hilarious and fantastic, and I wanna be associated with you and I wanna be close to you. But what if we work together and it makes me hate you?
Speaker 3
Right.
Speaker 4
And it couldn't have been the more, like, couldn't have been more more opposite from that.
Speaker 5
Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4
It means fall more love.
Speaker 5
Phenomenal job, both of you, and, I wanted to also ask, a prostate exam. Did you have, any writing on, on that one? That episode? Prostate? Yeah.
Speaker 4
Yes, ma'am. Let me pull up the doc.
Speaker 5
And if you did kudos because that was so wonderfully done. And so, like, we it's it's it's a It's one of my favorites. It's such a really amazing episode.
Speaker 4
Yeah. I remember actually when I walked this one. It reminded me of all of these. The, the Mc Murray and missus Mc Murray telling a story about the the that was, like, me and Ali's sick to it. Like, a lot of that was me and Ali's sick twisted mind, family.
Speaker 3
Oh, the Jim gashes and the The
Speaker 4
Jim gosh. I remember writing on that. Yeah. That was,
Speaker 5
or the dicks. Oh my gosh. Those two, they get to
Speaker 4
Allie is really good with the decks. She's
Speaker 3
I'm gonna clip that right there. That's gonna be a I'm gonna play that Ali next week.
Speaker 4
Oh, she is.
Speaker 3
I'm gonna open the next week's episode with Ali's really good with the love it.
Speaker 4
It's crazy. I'm scrolling through this. This is how much this is just. So starting from here, this is all just the gin. Oh, what? You can't see.
Speaker 3
That's the famous Google docs we keep on hearing about, though. That's exciting.
Speaker 4
Jin jokes. Which is funny when we spend a lot of time on, like, one time. I don't even know if any of that I'm assuming someone I got used. Otherwise, let me see what the where's anything in here that stands out.
Speaker 0
I don't know why it
Speaker 4
didn't go through this before.
Speaker 3
Alright. We'll just have to have you on for a part two. It's no plan.
Speaker 4
Sorry. Sorry.
Speaker 3
No. No. It's okay. But, we we love having returned guests. So, we'll we'll do that again. Victor, do you have any final, questions?
Speaker 2
Well, let's see. Why don't we get you to open up a little bit to our listeners, with another one. So since you didn't really discover yourself, until you were into your twenties, Let's talk about before that. So, you know, you hated the dancing. So what hobbies or interests were you kind of into, as a teenager?
Speaker 4
Well, I I did love dance before university. Mhmm. But because I think that you have your peak as a competitive dancer when you're eighteen So I think I just knew that I would never, like, it was gonna peter out. So it's like, I I think I realized I I'm very competitive, and I I just wanna be, like, get better, but I knew, like I think I had in my head that it's, like, physically, it's over once you're eighteen. I don't know why I had that. But I mean, like, that is, you know, it, like, I I think I just had it in my head that I was done up for eighteen and I was, you know, getting into worse shape and, like, drinking and binge eating and very unhealthy in university. So I just was not into the whatever. I was always very silly and class clownish, and a little bit like in my own world. I would like draw a lot. I was pretty into like visual arts. Yeah. Kind of across the board kind of like an artsy, misanthropic character.
Speaker 2
That's really cool. Did you have any of your draw drawings still preserved?
Speaker 4
I have some, yeah, like, old ones that I I it was really cute for this school project, I did, like, taming of the shrew, but I did it, like, like, Doctor. Seuss style. Oh. It's actually incredible. I looked back and it's, like, timing of the Shruce. That's what it was. And then it was all, like, I created all these Doctor. Susie and characters and then wrote it in the prose of Doctor. Seuss.
Speaker 2
You gotta put that up
Speaker 0
on Instagram.
Speaker 3
Substack, Instagram. Come on.
Speaker 4
Yeah. It's pretty amazing, actually. I I thought I saw. I used to do this thing. I mean, this is kind of like comedic. I did. Something I used to do alone. I I did like makeovers, but reverse makeovers, and it would be like a plea of like a girl being like Please, I'm so beautiful. I literally can't even go into the mall without people stopping me and giving me flowers. And then I would give them makeover to get it it was called get ugly. And I would draw I would this is a big hobby of mine. I would draw, get uglies, and then I would show it to my family.
Speaker 0
Oh, you'd love
Speaker 4
to find that.
Speaker 2
You you have to definitely put that up. That has to be shared with the world.
Speaker 4
Okay. I wanna I wish I could find them. I I feel like they're not around. I mean, I gotta look for them when I'm at home.
Speaker 3
There you go. Well, you're not far from home. I mean, it's fun. Right?
Speaker 4
Don't tell my parents that. I'm very busy.
Speaker 3
Oh, Matt. Your question?
Speaker 0
Yeah. So I I always round this. And you kind of half answered this, but you can't be a stranger to the reach that Letter Kenny even chores you have had now, like, they have got a bit of a cult following. You must have seen in the States when you traveled.
Speaker 4
Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 0
What has it meant to you to be a part of all this?
Speaker 4
Like, the the world. I can't I can't stress enough how much this has changed my life and how it it's it's a it's a dream come true getting to do that tour and getting to actually see and feel the love from the crowds. It's it's been yeah. I I again, I feel like I can't put it into words. I like words, and I like describing my life through words, and I it's one that I can't, you know, encapsulate into anything more than that. It just means that we're to me. Like, I it's my my dream come true. I it feels perfect. Like, it's, like, the best biggest Canadian show that is also international and, like, I happen to get a job on it when I was twenty five, and now I can just do stand up, and now I can get my visa. And, like, now I can continue to try to make my dreams come true because I was given this opportunity. Like, I feel like I'm the luckiest girl in the fucking world. I I can't believe it. Like, I didn't know any of this was possible. I didn't know my life could be this good. I'm so I'm so unbelievably grateful to Jared and everyone at New Metrc.
Speaker 0
Yeah. Well, congratulations. It's deserved. We've seen you're amazing.
Speaker 4
Mhmm.
Speaker 0
All the absolute best in the future, Olivia.
Speaker 3
Yeah. And enjoy that tour. So I mean, you're you're really great following IG. Is that is that the best place to follow you?
Speaker 4
Follow me on IG. I really wanna get followers on Substack. If you like my writing, which you claimed to, if you're fucking finalizing. Allegedly. Me on Substack. I do some comedic writing on there. It's like personal essays. I'm still evolving and figuring out what it's gonna be. Yeah. Follow him follow me on there.
Speaker 3
Alright. So follow Olivia on sub stack and stuff.
Speaker 0
And and tag and tag us or shoot stuff to us anytime, but we'll obviously talk it up everywhere we can.
Speaker 4
Yeah. Oh, that's really nice. We will
Speaker 3
amplify where we can. Enjoy the tour. Have fun. And, maybe when you come back, like, when the tour is done, we can do a wrap up and have you and Ali and and Jeff on. I know that, Mark's not you know, the biggest fan of being on podcasts, but, Jeff has offered to come back on. So it'd be really great to have you guys on for maybe a wrap up of the tour.
Speaker 4
That'd be awesome. Yeah. Alright. For the best.
Speaker 3
Thank you so much. And, we're going to play off here with a song from last week. Take me to the freeway by the genders.
Speaker 4
Me.
Speaker 3
And that's all we have for this episode. If you'd like to support the podcast, please tell a friend also follow us on most social media outlets at protosan pod. Thanks for joining us. Now we're gonna go make Victor go head to head with our new friend Olivia and a Patreon exclusive roast battle. That's sure to get the numbers of patrons go through the roof. On behalf of Olivia Tania, Matt Victor, myself. Thank you for listening, and have a great week.