TPS194: An Interview With Keegan Long (aka Liam)
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Now here's a chat with Keegan Long. Speaker 2
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What do you listen to? Speaker 4
My favorite murder podcast? Speaker 5
Taggart and Doran's podcast. The produce stand. Speaker 3
Fucking sexy. Speaker 2
It's Thursday, Thursday. And that means we are once again, hanging at the Pro to Standing. Speaker 1
A podcast covering everything in the universe. Speaker 5
Now, I know Speaker 1
what you're thinking. There are many other letter kenny podcasts out there, but this one's gonna be passing out some hot dogs and a bag of chips at the end of it. I'm Malia host and joining me in the room as always is lovely, Tanya. Online, we have squirrely Matt and the very virtual Victor. And joining us tonight, he's from Jared Kieso's hometown of Lizul. He's a Canadian actor in theater and television. He plays hockey and baseball in Letter Kenny. He played Mark a kid with problems who was held back in first grade because it took him a little longer to read than most kids. But we know and love him as the high school player called Liam on Shoresy. Please join me in making some noise kegan long. Mundress. Speaker 2
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my Speaker 5
god. Oh my god. Speaker 4
Oh my god. Speaker 1
I regret nothing. Welcome to the produce Dan Keegan. Speaker 5
Oh, man. I love that intro so much. Thank you. I mean, I appreciate it. Speaker 2
Thank you for joining us. Speaker 5
I'm so excited because I That's awesome. Speaker 1
That's one of the that's one of the first few intros I've nailed in a long time. Speaker 5
Oh, yeah. That's perfect. Speaker 1
Thank you for joining us. Where are you, speaking to us from? Speaker 5
Well, I'm currently at home with Stool. Yeah. Back home for the summer. Speaker 1
In Listle. And and we've established that's that's where you're originally from. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yep. That's correct. Yep. From Listle grew up here. So Speaker 1
Very cool. So This Speaker 2
one, this really hits home, man. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I mean, so, I mean, let's let's get right into it because what's it like being from the hometown of mister Jared Keisel, is it like, is it like a Jared Keisel way? Is everyone like, mue for Jared's, you know, number or anything? What's going on there? Speaker 5
Yeah. Actually, yeah. It's, it it's pretty crazy to be, from the same spot as him. Yeah. He's got You got his own road. It's called the Kiso Drive or something. Speaker 1
Oh, I was just kidding about that. Speaker 2
Pretty cool. Speaker 1
Okay. Speaker 5
Yeah, there's definitely some people have you know, ask me to do favors or get in touch with them for for whatever reason. So Yeah. Yep. Jared definitely feels the love around here. They're all big fans of Shores in Letter Kenny. So Yeah. It's it's good. Speaker 1
Well, I mean, not only do you were did you grow up in Listle? And let's talk about that first of all. What was it like growing up in Listle? Speaker 5
It it was really just like any other small town, you know, ten, a population of, like, ten thousand people. So it's small, and it it really relates to to to Letter Kenny, especially, you know, just from watching the show and everything. There's, kind of remarks of different places and attributes to to lift school. So, Sure. Yeah. It's it's cool to be from around here. Like I said, a lot of passion for Shoresy and Letter Kenny. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like every other kind of small town. You got the different groups and Speaker 0
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Mhmm. Speaker 0
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the niches and stuff. So, yeah. Yeah. It's cool. Speaker 1
Were you a jock though, or were you, like, a, you know, a theater kid? Speaker 4
Or a skid. Speaker 1
Or a skid. Yeah. Speaker 5
Yeah. I I would have to say I was a jock. You know, I've I've played hockey growing up and I I played old high school sports and everything. So I think if you ask most people, I'd probably be landing that credit category. Speaker 1
Well, and so you mentioned high school. Not only do you live in Keys's hometown, you went to his high like, the same high school as him. No. Obviously, there's an age difference. So but, I mean, was there any kind of remnants of him in the high in the halls of, list tool what is it list tool secondary or something? Speaker 5
Yeah. Well, yeah. LBS S. So district secondary school. To be honest, not as much as there probably should be. Speaker 1
Right. Speaker 5
I think everybody knows that, like, he went there and that he's a big deal on everything, but, like, he doesn't have, like, his own, like, wall full of physical appishments and pictures and everything. But obviously, like most of the the teachers know who he is and, you know, students obviously do too. So, yeah, people definitely know him and respect them at the school, but there's no big mirror or anything else. Speaker 1
Like, there's no there's no Kiso auditorium because you were in the you were in the theater pro program. Right? You you directed a bunch of plays and acted in a bunch of plays in high school. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Theater is a major part of my, high school career. So, no, he, he didn't really get into the, the, theater stuff in high school. It was kinda more as he graduated. And kind of experience some different stuff. So nope, not yet, but there definitely should be something named after him at the school. Speaker 3
I think. Speaker 2
So so about you I mean, you specifically that's an interesting combo they don't normally see. You you called yourself the jock, but also said you were very much a theater guy. Where's the crossover there? Like, normally, you don't see those two worlds you know, go over the crossover like that. Speaker 5
Yeah. I guess Speaker 2
where the passion's coming from. Speaker 5
Yeah. It's it's kind of unheard of, especially from, you know, a small town like this. But, you know, like like I said, like hockey and baseball, like, that was that was my entire life growing up. Right? That's when my my dad played that and my entire family. All big athletes and I grew up like watching hockey, playing hockey, imitating hockey, everything was hockey for me. And, once I got to about grade nine or ten, I, I kind of well, I was never exposed to theater first of all in, like, public school, like, grade, like kindergarten to grade nine. Speaker 2
So Speaker 5
there's nothing nothing about it. And then I tried it out one year in grade nine as an elective because I had to take some sort of art. And I liked it. Speaker 2
I Speaker 5
didn't know too much about it, so I was kind of uncomfortable, especially, you know, having kind of jock background is obviously the the stereotypes and stuff of, you know, who's doing what and everything. But, grade ten is when I really started to to to get involved with it. I actually, I remember I, it was right when stranger things came out, Speaker 2
And Speaker 5
that's a really popular show, especially at the time. And there was a particular scene, and I remember just kind of thinking to myself, like, these kids who are younger than I am, like, just blowing me away like this. Like, they have the world in their hands. Obviously, they're making good money because it's a good show. Yeah. Everyone knows who they are. And it's, it's making you feel a type of way that you don't really feel very often. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
And, I thought that was pretty cool, just to see how big of an impact things like this could have on somebody. Yeah. Speaker 2
So I Speaker 5
I kinda thought about it and I was like, maybe this is something I wanna try. And then, the next day at school, I actually asked my high school drama teacher, Steph Webster, You know, this is maybe something I wanna try doing. And, she was fully supportive of me. And, I took in grade ten And then grade eleven and twelve was kinda where it took off a bit more. We have this, this extracurricular program called Black Door Theater, which is basically where students could go, like, after school and stuff and be put on a couple plays a year. And, I went to there and and period eleven and twelve was, the lead in a couple of shows and kinda got my name out there as, you know, the hockey player, but also the guy that was in the drum room kinda being on stage this whole time. So, yeah, it was it was an interesting balance. It was tough, very tough, especially, you know, with, like, with, like, the the other athletes and stuff that I play with and play against, like, the, obviously, they know that, you know, the stereotypes of Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 5
Yeah. That's why. Yeah. So I was so curious. Speaker 1
That they that they break the balls a bit. Speaker 5
It's difficult, but, yeah, I I kinda just found a a love for it and then I just kept going with it. Yeah. Speaker 1
Did you get a bit of a hard time in the lock room? Speaker 5
Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. Especially, like, when I miss, like, a hockey practice or a game or something to to do a show, I definitely, definitely heard from the boys and, you know, like, obviously, there's some name calling and and stuff like that going on, but, you know, we just kinda the punches and, take it as it is. Speaker 1
Well, unless unless any of those boys are in the NHL now, you got the last lap. So, Speaker 5
Yeah. Exactly. Speaker 1
So I'm assuming hockey was probably the first love, you know, or a sport because you're Canadian, am I right? Yeah. But I I mean, I saw, I mean, you also played Speaker 0
a lot of baseball. What would you Speaker 1
say would be your your your favorite sport to play, hockey or Speaker 5
baseball? You know, that's a tough question. I've kinda thought about this before. I would say as far as the game goes, hockey, I think that that was really where I was most interested in growing up and still to this day, like, just the entire the system of it, the the rules, you know, playing and everything. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
But I would say I was a better baseball player. Okay. I had a ball and success in baseball. So, I would say as far as, like, the culturally and the growing up hockey with Stephanie might go to sport, but if I'm just gonna play something for twelve hours a day, I would probably have to say, baseball is what I do now. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
But but I love both of them, like, very much. Speaker 1
So very diplomatic answer. Speaker 5
It's a tough, tough answer, but I would say I'd say both. That sounds like you're gonna say. Speaker 1
Sure. That's fair. So you talk about, you know, you you guys did some productions in high school. I I've got a question about one of them, here called Candy Land. Was that at the high school production or was that after high school? Speaker 2
No. That was, that was Speaker 5
one of my, university productions that we did. Speaker 1
Oh, university. Okay. Speaker 5
Like, yeah, for just one of our, assessments. Speaker 1
You played a character named John Candy. Is that the John Candy? Is that who you were playing, or or was that just Speaker 5
No. Unfortunately, Okay. Speaker 1
No. It was just the Speaker 5
just the name of the character we came up with. Speaker 2
Did you guys know who John Candy was when you came up with the character? Speaker 1
Oh, tell me you knew who John Candy was, please. Speaker 5
I didn't actually come up with there's one of my one of my, my classmates. Mhmm. But, yeah, I definitely would join candidates, but, unfortunately, it wasn't. Speaker 2
You saved yourself there. Oh, Speaker 1
you you saved us from feeling really fucking old if you didn't know who don't get. Speaker 4
Okay. So I'll ask you a question just again. Check your age. Youngblood, are you, does does that mean anything to you? Speaker 5
Youngblood? Yes. Actually, yeah, kinda. I remember they're, they actually I don't know if they finished filming, a reboot of that movie. Or not, but I actually did an audition for it. Speaker 1
Oh, wow. And I Speaker 5
think that was one of the most probably the proudest that I've ever been for audition. I spent hours working on it. It was for the role of was it Patrick Swazzy? Was he, Speaker 4
It was Rob Low. Speaker 2
I was Speaker 4
well, while Patrick Wade was, I think, the bully or, I'm trying to remember now that it's Speaker 2
been a long, long time ago. Speaker 1
Victor, if you can ask the question, Speaker 5
you better have your your Speaker 1
facts straight there. Speaker 2
Where did you even pull that question? Speaker 3
Ask the question not knowing. Conversations. Speaker 2
I'm not I'm not mad at it. I just know. I'm not Speaker 5
I'm just beautiful. Speaker 4
It's just the Robalo was the main in that in that movie. And and Patrick's ways he may or may not have had a secondary role. I just can't it's been too long. Okay. Because you would be the upload stuff. Speaker 5
It's a classic movie. You know, it's a classic movie that I I feel like everybody has to watch. Yeah. But it's You're not Speaker 4
a hockey fan if haven't seen, youngblood. Speaker 5
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's funny you brought that up because I was so confident in the audition I did for the for that movie and, I didn't book the parts. So that one kinda stung, but Speaker 1
Oh, man. I can't imagine it. On Speaker 5
photos for sure. Speaker 1
So were you, like, when you're still in high school, were you already going for these, like, television parts in high school or what was that after? Speaker 5
No. That kinda that kinda came in, like, grade twelve. Mhmm. Like, like, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty is when I really start to that's when I got an agent and everything. And that's kinda where I started to really focus on it. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
Before that, I was just kinda getting exposure, just to the craft and everything. So yeah, ever since, I guess, twenty nineteen. So four years ago, whatever it is, that's kinda when I really started to to pursue it. Speaker 1
Sure. And what was your first TV role booked? Speaker 5
My first TV role was Ashley Letter. Oh, Speaker 1
Wow. Speaker 0
Yeah. There you go. Speaker 5
That one that's a that's a lucky story on its own. Yeah. I would say the first the first role I ever booked completely on my own. Mhmm. Was a show called Dark Side the nineties. Speaker 2
I Speaker 1
was just gonna ask you. Austin green. That's right. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. So, Yeah. That was, that was my first time being by myself, like, on a set. So that was that was interesting. That was that was kind of a cool experience for sure. Speaker 1
Very cool. So you book Letter Kenny. We're we're, you know, we're gonna mainly talk about chores in a second, but, yeah, since that was your first role, and you were, you were one of the kids in kids with problems. So you were part of the the that group of students, but I think you were one of the few with actual speaking lines. So, I mean, how'd that come about? Speaker 5
Yeah. So that was actually pretty lucky. I guess the story kinda starts a year or two before that. So, like, like, you guys obviously know Jared's from my hometown. Right? And, My drama teacher, Steph Webster, who I became very close with, was also very close to Jared. They, they worked on theater shows a step before he moved out to Vancouver. So, yeah, one day she basically just texted the staff, and he was like, do you wanna bring up the drama class and be extras on the show? I think that was season seven or season eight. I can't remember. Speaker 1
Oh, so that whole group of kids was your drama class? Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. Everyone. And, so, yeah, we go up, and it's funny because the the the scene that we were in screen extras for Speaker 4
is Speaker 5
actually a Shoresy scene with Riley and Jonesy. And I think I think that, that Max Bufar, like JJ Franki, JJ. I think he was on set that day. Speaker 1
Okay. Okay. Speaker 5
So that was the first time we were actually on set for Letter Kenny. We that was the we didn't have any lines that time. Just like the year before. Speaker 1
We're just kinda extras in the stands or something. Speaker 5
Yeah. Just just fans in the stands chair and for them. And, so that was pretty cool just to kinda Yeah. Speaker 1
Well, we've done the same with Shorzy, this past March. We were there as extras in in the stands for for Shorzy. Yeah. Speaker 5
It's kinda crazy. Yeah. Speaker 1
That's fine. Speaker 5
Yeah. But, But anyway, for, for the role of Mark, I think it was the next year. We got the same text from Jared. It was like, brandt class up. We got got some space for extras. Wow. And then we Speaker 2
mentioned a couple. Speaker 1
Yeah. So not only does he hire his buddies but he brings up his entire drama class from his old high school to to Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Jared Jared is right. I'm gonna bring an entire class, the extras, which is very, very cool. Yeah. So, yeah, the next year, it was the same thing, but he said this time there's an opportunity for a couple of people that have lines. And I remember, I was approached by staff, and I read read some lines for, for Mark, to Jared and their to staff and they liked it. So next thing, no, I'm I'm having a part on Letter Kenny. And that was season nine episode two, kids with problems. Speaker 1
Sure. Speaker 5
Yeah, that was that was twenty nineteen. We went up there, and that was really cool too because, like, I was face to face with the entire, like, immediate cash Right? Speaker 1
Yeah. Everyone's getting them. All the hits, all the skids, they're all in. Speaker 5
The whole the whole group. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. And it's definitely intimidating too. Like, my first time being in front of the camera and everything. Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 5
And having, like, the lines. So and then, like, my my classmates all around me too. So Yeah. It was interesting. It was a really cool experience that I definitely don't take for granted, but, Speaker 2
Amazing. Speaker 5
Yeah. Speaker 2
Was there any way so, I mean, You're you're not right. That was a huge scene. The whole cast is basically there. Was there anyone in your mind that stuck out that that, like, you you said it was pretty intimidating, but was there any point in particular of the cast you're like, holy shit. I'm I'm looking toe to toe with so and so. Like Speaker 5
Yeah. I think I think Katie. I think, like, Wayne's sister, like, she's she's a good looking girl. I'm not gonna lie. Just see her in person right there, like, right in front of my view. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Yeah. Speaker 5
Yeah. That kinda made me stumble my lines a couple Speaker 1
So, we just had Bradley, or Brad Miller on and and and we actually got to visit, you know, base camp and stuff like that. So I can't imagine, I mean, a group, the size of your your your drama class coming in are you all going through base camp then? Are you, like, getting your makeup done there? So, or is there like, you know, you know, are you on set there? Speaker 5
Yeah. So it was kind of a little bit different. I think it was, I don't know, four or five of us actually had lines. We, we got taken into base camp early, probably, like, four or five in the morning. And the rest, like, everybody else in the class, like, all the extras just stayed back at the hotel. Mhmm. And then, yeah, we went there. They put us in our trailers, then sent us the hair and makeup. And got that done. They gave us these cool outfits. And at least for me, they basically told me you're you're a young, young skit. So, with that as you may and go out there. And then so, yeah, we were on set the whole day. Us kids with lines, and then the rest of the x just basically just hung out in the on the boss or, in a waiting room or something. So we were split up and, but, yeah, they we're all kinda right there the whole day. So Speaker 2
That's awesome. Was your teacher an extra on it as well, or is she kind of in the back just cheering you guys on? Speaker 5
Yeah. I think she was in the background -- Okay. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
which too bad. I was trying to convince her to come on her to take some lines or something, but she, she didn't really wanna do that. Speaker 2
So Wow. Interesting. Speaker 1
That's so cool. Very cool. Speaker 5
A great story. Speaker 1
Yeah. And an an amazing kind of first. So how how aware, I know I mean, you're from Listville, so you must have been very aware of letter Kenny. We asked this of all the Shoresy, actors who come on, how how well they knew letter Kenny before coming on. Were you somebody who kind of had watched the entire or up until the time you were on, watched it religiously, or was it just something you're aware of and you didn't really Speaker 5
to be honest, I didn't I didn't really like, obviously, I watched the show and I I kinda knew what it was all about, but I didn't watch from start to end, start to end, like, I don't think we had crave at the time. Speaker 1
Sure. Speaker 5
So, obviously, I couldn't watch it there if I saw it would be at a friend's place Speaker 0
or -- Yeah. -- Speaker 5
or whatever. And especially when it first came out, I was still pretty young. Right? Speaker 3
So I was gonna say. Speaker 2
You know, the person Speaker 5
really wanted me to to see that type of language and content. But, yeah, I definitely watched some more episodes as I got older. Speaker 2
Here you go. Like, I'll do the math here. Speaker 5
But you're gonna Speaker 2
let my kid watch it. Speaker 1
No. No. I mean, I've got a sixteen year old. He's watched a lot of Shoresy though, but I've I feel like Letter Kennedy is Kenny is even worse when it comes to some of that humor. Speaker 4
I think sixteen, you're good to go, my friend. Speaker 1
Oh, I don't know. So, okay. So that's cool. Now, you're you'd you're in or went to York University for a theater school. So you took this, really seriously. Are you still there or are you done? Speaker 5
Yeah. I got one more year going in my fourth year at York. Yep. So, that should be interesting. I'm going on obviously for for theater Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
Mhmm. -- specializing in performance creation. So, basically, that's, like, creating your own work from the ground up. So, yeah, one more year. It was kinda tough. The first two years I was because they COVID everything is online. Speaker 2
Yeah. So Speaker 5
I didn't really get to have that full experience and make those connections and everything. But last year was definitely better. I'm looking forward to to next year in September where I can really be a part of everything and meet a bunch of people and stuff, like on campus. So, yeah, it'll be good. Speaker 2
I mean, is is your is your hope to stay in front of the camera or are you finding passions behind the camera as well? Speaker 5
I think I think, obviously, I'm not too picky whatever opportunities come I'll take. Fair enough. Yeah. But I think for the most part, I'd like to stay front of the camera. That's just where I'm I'm most used to now. And I enjoy I enjoy being kinda kind of in the limelight of especially, they go on a theater stage. I think I definitely wanna be be on stage rather than, like, behind. Right. I don't know what it is. I think it's just the kind of the the adrenaline you get from having all that really enjoy that. Speaker 1
Well, so what's your problem? Speaker 5
Obviously, I'd I'd dabble with directing or writing or whatever, but I think acting's kinda working kinda staying with right now. Speaker 1
So what's your preference? Stage or or camera? Speaker 5
I get asked this a lot. And that's a great question because I never really know truly what I think. So I'll I'll kinda break it down here. Obviously, film's good because that's where most of the opportunities are, and that's where, you know, the exposure is and everything, you know, and that's where the pay is. That's much safe to say. And it's kind of a factor in this industry. So I really enjoy that. But I would say I like theater more just because I mean, this might be a bit of a biased opinion, but I think theater is, like, the pure form of art because it has acting, it has music, it has movement, dance, and everything has design. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
So I really enjoy that, and I really really enjoy the process of making show. It's it's kinda like it's the it's kinda like, even on a hockey team or like a a film set or a baseball team or whatever. You have that that camar artery and that brotherhood you make with everybody, spend months at a time, hours a week working together to create this end goal. Yeah. So I think that process of, creating everything and finally being able to perform that for for an audience and everything is is something like I can't really explain. It's unbelievable. And then when the when the curtains come down and, like, the standing ovation and everything Speaker 0
-- Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
and just knowing that all the work you put into it, Yeah. Without, like because, like, with theater, you can't really mess up or even you can mess up, but you gotta you gotta figure it out. So, Yeah. And you see Speaker 3
the story altogether. Speaker 5
I would say that I love I love both, obviously, but, I would have to say theater's kinda my go to right now. Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, you get to see the story altogether, right, in theater? Like, with with TV and and movie, it's all chalk. Up. Like, you you get bits at a time and you don't really see everything pulled together Speaker 1
and music and everything. Speaker 3
So, yeah, it's it's kinda hard to to feel feel that same, connection to it. Speaker 5
Yeah. Definitely. And I think with theater too, it's a lot easier or not maybe not easier, but it's more of an interesting journey, to getting into a character, whereas, like, with film, you know, if you you you learn your lines right before and the camera rolls. And if you mess up, you just reshoot it. Right? Yeah. So Speaker 2
I don't I feel like you Speaker 5
don't really get to develop that character. Yeah. Internally, like you would in theater. So I think that's another big thing too is you get to with both you get to live this other life of another person, but think with theater, you get to embody physically, you know, mentally with the character you're playing. And, and that's pretty cool to be able to Speaker 0
-- Speaker 2
Nice. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
to live the life of somebody else. Speaker 4
I'm guessing sorry. Go ahead, Matt. Speaker 2
No. No. It's all good, man. Speaker 4
I'm guessing that it kinda, connects to your love of sports as well because you know, in theater, you get that adrenaline rush. Right? You you get to interact with with with fans, if you will, right, with the audience. Speaker 5
And Speaker 4
you get to do and, like, like, there's no room to redo things. Right? It's it's it's live action. So -- Yeah. Absolutely. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 4
so I think that's probably a little bit there for you as well. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a challenge, and I enjoy that challenge. And and like I said at the end, once it's all finished and you kinda look back at all the hard work you put into it. And, yeah, it's something you can't really explain. Speaker 0
Very cool. So You, Speaker 1
you know, you're out of high school. You're in call or, you know, your university now. And, this show where you started hearing about, this, spin off from Letter Kenny called Chorsey. How do you get involved? Speaker 5
So that that, process, started with my mom, actually. She, she sent me this casting call for a letter can spin off and it didn't say Shores. He just said Letter Kenny spin off. Speaker 1
Okay. Speaker 5
And it was it was a really, really shitty looking Cassie call. Like, it it was awful. I thought it was fake. Okay. Speaker 2
What do you mean? Speaker 5
No offense, but it was terrible to estimate. Yeah. She sent me, the casting call for the audition for it. And, basically, I texted my agent. I was like, hey, if if this is even real because there's I thought there's no way. Like, this is too good to be true that letter Kenny's coming coming up with another show. Yeah. If this, but if this is real, might get the audition for it. She said, yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, a couple days later, she sent me the sides, for the high school kids. And when I first did the audition, was actually three high school kids. It wasn't just Corey and Liam. Speaker 0
Okay. Speaker 5
There's Corey Lam and then some other kid I can't remember his name. But, I read for all three characters at the same time. So I had to learn three times the amount of lines for those six pages or whatever it was. So I I filmed that, and it was kinda funny because my mom was trying to imitate Shoresy -- Okay. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 2
that's doing the audition with me. And Tell me you've got that on tape somewhere. Speaker 5
Yeah. It's definitely around summer. I'll have to try to find it, but, I kept breaking character and this will happen because because obviously I knew he was sure as he was. Right? Like, I remember I would, like, just watch colonations that shows you with my dad for, like, hours. I'm just pissing my pants laughing. It was so funny. So Yeah. I did it with her. It took a couple hours, definitely. Speaker 1
So your mom was playing. Your your mom was playing shorts. Then Speaker 5
Yeah. Then a couple days later, I, they texted me, emailed me back and said, can you, like, send me some pictures and photos and, like, videos of you playing hockey and just basically do, like, little interview about the kind of hockey player I was, my style, how I played stuff like that. So, did a little bit of an interview with them, just talked about my game and the kind of player I was and just sent some of the best videos I could find because they're looking for for, like, good junior eight, you know, it it said junior eight triple a players. Right. So I wanted to, you know, some of the best stuff I could, especially for Like, I played a little bit of junior growing up, but I'm from a small town. So I just I I liked playing with my buddies just enlistable. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
So I felt like I had to really earn that part. But, yeah, basically, I did that little interview, and then I totally forgot about it. And, I was in school, actually, or I think it's maybe October. And I got a call from Steph Webster who was, like, my step or my, my drama teacher. Speaker 2
Right. Speaker 5
Just normal checkup because it was, you know, it was a couple months since I've talked to her. And she says I got somebody on the line here that wants to talk to you. And it was Jared. And Jared broke the news to me and said, like, how do you feel about creating the great to talk to show on the planet. And I I was, obviously, I was dumbfounded about the whole thing. So I was like, yeah, absolutely fucking lutely. Like, then let's do it. That's awesome. Speaker 2
I can love help. Yeah. Speaker 5
After that, the rest is history. Speaker 2
Amazing. I love it. That's how we introduce it to everyone. Like, you're you're about the third or fourth person. We've heard say that comment that they got on the phone, Jared, and he said, how do you wanna make the greatest hockey show in fucking history? Right? Speaker 5
Oh, yeah. Yep. Jared, that was the first thing he said. He is so he is so adamant about that that this will be the greatest hockey show ever. And I think that he's done a good job on it so far. Speaker 1
So, yeah, we, we, hard to agree. We interviewed, Burke Casobhan back on Monday. It's not available yet for everyone to listen to, but I laughed because he said the exact same thing where his mom helped him run the lines where she was Shoresy and he was Corey. So she's saying all these horrific things that she's done to Corey's mom, meanwhile, you know, she's the mom. And it sounds like you did the same thing. So you guys must have, like, this the two coolest mothers on the in history to to be able to say that awful stuff. Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. My mom Speaker 5
wouldn't be on here too because, like, in shorts, you obviously You know, sure he's always ripping on our mothers. Yeah. My mom, like, takes those insults with pride. Oh, yeah. Like, you said, because she's she's proud to be bad. That person that sure she's doing whatever it was. So, yeah, it's kinda funny. Definitely wouldn't be here or, well, obviously, wouldn't be here without my mom doing the audition with me. So Yeah. Thank you for her. Speaker 2
Amazing. So good. And and, I mean, and you said, let's just backtrack a little bit. So when you got the call and it's a letter Kenny spit off, when you found out it was a Shoresy centered show. What was your take on that? Speaker 5
I I I was I was ecstatic about it. We, like, I guess I kind of put two and two together once I got the sides of of, like, the the new show because it was Shores East. Character, it said Shoresy. So I kinda figured that out, but I just remember, like, thinking back to all those days of me watching the compilations of Shoresy, you know, him on his his hands in the shower, upside down, and he just chirping Riley and Jonesy and everything. So, yeah, that was, it was pretty cool to see that and then see where it came from. But also looking back at the time I was an extra where I saw Roughly and John D and Shorgy, you know, chirping each other in real person Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
Mhmm. -- when I was an extra. Speaker 2
I think Speaker 5
it was a full circle moment that I kinda took back, and it's it's pretty cool for sure. Speaker 2
And now you're that version. Amazing. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
You're the one saying fuck you, Shorzy. During our interview, Burke, mentioned that you had some, difficulty shooting season two of Shoresy due to, a jaw injury. Can can you talk a little bit about that? Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. So, I filmed the entire second season of Shoresy with with a fracture jaw and about Well, a mouthful of shattered teeth. Speaker 3
Wow. My gosh. Speaker 1
What happened? Speaker 2
God. Speaker 5
You know, I wish I had a good story to tell you, but I honestly don't even really know what happened I was, Was it your mom during your Speaker 4
during your lines? Speaker 3
As it's a safe place, you can tell us. Before we Speaker 5
started filming, it was it was the final final weekend for exams and everything because it's filmed back in April. So me and a couple of friends decided to go out to a bar just to, you know, celebrate the end of the year and everything. And it's weird because I I was I've I remember talking to my roommate and, like, like, we've been a lot more fucked up at this bar. We're fine right now. Like, what's going on? We should be we should be hammered. But, anyway, yeah, I was next thing you know, I'm face down and, like, decide the bar on the ground, and I don't know what happened. I don't know if my drink was spiked or if I really just drank a ton of beer in, you know, thirty minutes, but I went from being totally fine and present to to waking up with a bunch of people around me and Wow. Most of you just so Speaker 2
you just went down. Speaker 5
I I think so. I must say a curb saw myself for something, but, yeah, it was weird because Like, I I I just basically came to and did some of the people around freaking out. And then I started freaking out. Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 5
And I was really I wasn't even worried about, like, my jaw and everything. Like, I wasn't worried about my teeth because I knew my teeth were broke. Like, I was spitting out pieces of my teeth on the Speaker 2
ground. Oh. Speaker 5
I was scared because, oh, no. I'm not gonna go with the thumb, Shoresy now. Right. So so close today when we were filming. Speaker 4
Mhmm. Speaker 2
So Speaker 5
I don't really I don't really know what happened, but, I basically came to there, and then I passed out again, and I wake up in the hospital getting stitches. So Jesus. I wish I had a good story, but Speaker 0
-- Speaker 2
Oh. Speaker 0
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I don't Speaker 1
That's a it's a pretty, amazing story. I mean, not good, but, it's it's it's unreal. Speaker 2
So how do you go from hospital blackout stitches to on on Speaker 3
set now? Like What was the time period between that? Speaker 5
So so the the accident happened. I think it was the last weekend of March. And I was supposed to go up, I think, it was the second week of April for my fitting and and everything -- Mhmm. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
with Shoresy. So we had to push that back. It took, yeah, a couple weeks. Like, as soon as it happened, and I got out of the hospital, I texted Jared and I said, hey, I I kind of fucked up. Mean, it's not my like, I didn't mean to do it obviously, but something happened and this is the situation. And he was fully supportive of it. Like, he understood. He said, you know, if needed, we can just add it into the script because, you know, it's it's talky. Right? Like, I read some teeth on the bulldog. Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. Exactly. Speaker 5
He he was real good with that. But, yeah, it took a while. I had to go home. I left Toronto, like, school and went home for a week or two just to recover. And because I couldn't I couldn't eat or anything. Right? Like, I was eating out of syringe for a a week, week and a half. Jeez. Just getting, like, gatorade and whatever I could down because I couldn't open out because my my job was broke. So that took a while. I couldn't talk for a couple weeks, but I think the week before I started filming shortly is when I kinda came around with my job, and I could I could talk Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
Mhmm. -- which is all I really cared about. As long as I could go up and film, I was I was okay with it, but, when I was actually filming season two, like, I still had all my broken teeth in my mouth because they couldn't take the teeth out and throw them in trouble on my jaw heal. That was a pain. That was really tough not being able to eat and and kinda I was kinda, like, I was just so weak from not being any any proper nutrients into myself. Right? So That was a challenge. I think I lost probably twenty to twenty five pounds just in that month, from everything that happened, but Yeah. We made it work. It was tough, especially when they could go out for, like, cast dinners or something I couldn't eat with them. I would just get my water in soup or whatever I could Speaker 1
Oh, man. Speaker 5
And and get that down. But but, yeah, we made it work. And that's all I can bro. Speaker 3
Wow. How are you now? Speaker 2
Yeah. How are you doing? Speaker 5
I'm I'm okay now. Yeah. I'm doing good. I, I got a nice little scar under my chin, and my jaw is all healed. I think they had to take out five or six in my chin So I, I'm missing probably like a quarter of my of my teeth. Speaker 2
Well, now you fit in with Speaker 1
the rest of the slots. So they're Speaker 5
yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Speaker 2
And I would reckon, like, like, work with Jared and Trevor Risk and whoever and develop a story. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 2
So that next time you're doing it, someone says, how did it happen? Play it. Like, yeah. Speaker 5
It's it's really hard. Yeah. I've given some chairs. I took my tooth out for sure. Speaker 3
Who whose story was it with the with the sledgehammer and the teeth? Speaker 5
Oh, yeah. It's crazy. Speaker 1
Oh, Terry Ryan. Speaker 2
Oh, Terry Ryan. Speaker 3
You should listen. Speaker 5
Yeah. I've heard that. That's a great story. I don't think I could do that, but yeah. T. R. T. R. Is an animal. Speaker 4
So have you had a drink since that half? Are you off the spot? Speaker 5
Yeah. Actually, my first drink since it all happened. It was probably you know, a month and a half, two months later. Yeah. It was actually with the cast at a happy Paninis. Nice. It kind of turns into a little bar tonight. So Oh, yeah. Speaker 3
You know? Speaker 5
It was it was my last day of filming. So we When Speaker 2
was the last day you were up there? Do you remember? We were up there Speaker 5
waiting for the exact date. I think it was, like, might have been, like, April, April twenty first or something like that. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 5
We were all out there for a couple days this this season. So I don't know the exact date, but but, yeah, we all went out and celebrated. That was my first drink. Since it all happened that I was still in the painkillers and stuff. Right? So maybe I shouldn't have drank, but it was a fun night. Speaker 2
So Yeah. Yeah. It's a cheaper when you're on the killer. Exactly. Speaker 3
You know, after an event like that, though, seriously, like, you you do start watching your drink a lot more. Like, I I know I've been been spiked before, and you do. You go from completely fine to you are not fine. And it's. Yeah. It's it's a wild strange feeling to not have that kind of memory as to what the hell just happened. Speaker 5
And Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And you feel like it it won't happen until you end to you until it does. Right? So you don't really think about it and then you're in that situation. So Yeah. It was definitely an eye opener, and I've learned my lesson from from it. But, yeah, I guess Speaker 3
I'm so glad to hear. Speaker 5
Take from it as I can and Speaker 0
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Yeah. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
continue moving forward. Speaker 3
Glad to hear that you're, that you're well and you made it work. Right? And, and you and you still you didn't miss the the opportunity on the show. That's great. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. It was a it was a challenge, but we got it finished. Speaker 1
So, we asked our listeners if they had any questions for you when they when they we told them that you were coming on and, Yeah. They were very excited to ask you some questions. So here's one from our buddy, Jeff, and Maine. He wants to know what is the the trick Well, to keep a straight face when Kiso is doing his Shorzy trips, but I'm sure that this case, the pain probably kept you from from laughing too much. This this season. But, yeah, like, how do how do you stand across from Jared Keys when he's saying those ridiculous things? Speaker 5
It's really difficult, man. It's it's hard. Like, obviously, you know, the vines that he's gonna say, but when he says it in that voice, it just gets to you. Speaker 1
Like, yeah, Speaker 5
there's definitely times where you don't even really try to hide it. You just laugh. But then there's also a couple of takes where you know, okay, like, this is a job. We gotta we gotta be in the moment and actually, you know, act as would be as, like, the the character would be. So You would just have fun with it. It's tough not to laugh. Obviously, do. And you don't really try to hide it. But, but once in a while, you kinda get that good take where, you know, you can hold them back and actually get through the through the scene. Speaker 3
Were you a even able to laugh or smile? Like, I can't even I just I'm holding my jaw. Like, it's broken because I can't even imagine what that would feel like. Speaker 5
Yeah. It was, it hurt to smile. It hurt hurt to do everything, really, especially with the teeth, my mouth still, because they're so sensitive. Yeah. That that it was it was just a pain for everything I did, but, Speaker 1
Literally. Speaker 5
No. I just tried to do a short smile. Like, nothing no huge big toothed gap or anything. I just kinda do a smile instead of, you know, laugh, you laugh and But, yeah, it was tough. Speaker 1
Can you remember any particular chirps that maybe needed multiple takes? Do any of them stand out to you? Speaker 5
In the first season. Speaker 1
At at Burke, I think, called out the roll up to win, the roll up to win. Speaker 5
That's a really good one. Yeah. I definitely after that. And, Speaker 2
well, most I think all of Speaker 5
them made me laugh, but, like, like, just, like, I can't wait to make it mandatory. Like, fucking crater face. Like, just the short thing is like that and the the context behind it. And, yeah, I think all of them really kinda made me laugh or there was one where, he's he's I can't remember which what his line was, but then he's said something about, oh, man. I can't say it, but he's he's, like, coming up with the name of the Bulldogs or team, like, on the spot, and he was kinda, like, just, like, thinking of something to say. I can't remember what he said, but that one really got to me too. I don't remember what he said. Dang. Speaker 1
I haven't wanted to rewatch. Speaker 3
So so you've you you tape the show, the show airs, and now what do your buddies do? Like, Do you get chirps all the time now? Like, was it just like a constant flow of Yeah. Speaker 1
Do they call you a clear cell kid now? Or what is it? Speaker 5
I haven't got that one yet. Yeah, they make jokes for sure about it. I get, especially, like, just from, like, kinda I don't get a ton of interaction with, like, fans from the show. Mhmm. But a lot of, like, like, fuck you shows. These are for what? Like, it goes. They have small small ones like that. They, they like to yell at me. But yeah, the buddies, like I said, like in high school, it was tough because they weren't really they weren't really on board with the whole, Speaker 2
you Speaker 5
know, arts and everything. But as soon as I got Shoresy, they're all over it. Yeah. I know they were. They know the show. They know the character. Sure. So they were very support of that after. Speaker 0
Of course. Speaker 1
Well, like I said, Speaker 5
yeah, they Speaker 1
showed that. Speaker 5
They're Speaker 3
teenagers or assholes. There's Speaker 5
there's a name now I guess my nickname for high school or for, baseball is Hollywood. As soon as I came back the first day. Speaker 2
Of course. Speaker 5
Just to my buddies, everyone's like, Holywood. Like, things like that. And it it it kinda rattles me because it's it's not really hollywood. Like, Tania says teenagers. I see one of my friends that's they call me now. So Speaker 1
Teenages are, asshole, but they're also very unoriginal because, yeah, come on. Really? Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
Our our buddy, Dennis from the UK. He always asked this question, but we heard we learned from Burke that you guys didn't even get to skate around with the slots, but Could you say what who the best slut on the ice is, who the best hockey player was on that team? Speaker 5
Well, that's gonna be. It's it's it's close between TR and, and Jordan Nolan, I think. Speaker 2
Okay. Speaker 5
I think goes a lot harder out on the ice. He he has the fire still. Yeah. And likes to be competitive. Mhmm. But I think if you look at the stats, like, you know, three cops with with different teams in the end of the show. Like, that's pretty impressive. Yeah. One of you all said they're all really green prep players, but Yeah. Speaker 2
That's awesome. Speaker 1
That's so cool. Speaker 2
Well, I mean so did you get much interaction with those? I know you weren't in scenes with them necessarily, but did you get a lot of interaction with cast and, like, any stand out moments? Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. I was, well, I mean, it was tough too. It would be, like, the first year was COVID. Right? So we were kinda confined to what we could do. And, obviously, the second season, I had my injury, and I was still in school and everything. So I wasn't on set or around February as much as I'd like to have been. Especially like Bert was there a lot more than I was. Yeah. But, yeah, everyone's great. I got to, you know, I got to interact with all of them and, and everyone's super nice and welcoming and everything. It it's kinda tough being the younger kid you gotta try to fit in. Yeah. But but, yeah, they're all really good. I would say One interaction that that really kinda stands out to me was, with Tassia Tassia Tiles. So it was it was I think it was the first day I arrived in February before season one. Basically, there's a little mixture manangler at Jared's place just for the cast to get to know each other. And I show up. And, I see this girl, and she looks so familiar. Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 5
And keep in mind, I'm a big one hundred guy. Like, the one hundred, the show that she's in. Speaker 2
So good. That was Speaker 5
one of my favorite shows growing up, and I was actually watching with my with my roommates at school as we filming. Speaker 1
I hope you didn't save that Speaker 5
to her. I kinda look at her and, I'm, like, I'm, like, have you ever seen the one hundred? And she's like, like, no. What's that? I'm like, oh, it's just a show, but, like, you look, like, strikingly similar to Doug Carey. Yeah. And she's like, oh, like, do you like echo? I'm like, yeah, she's a badass. Like, you're one of my favorite characters. Yeah. And she was like, so, like, she had a little smirk on her face and and didn't play into it. But I remember I went up to her. And I was like, is your name Tessa Tayels? Because I didn't, like, obviously, I didn't know the name. Like, I just knew the character. And I I remember, like, searching it up seeing something similar to that. Mhmm. Their name is Tassia. Tassia, not Tessa. And I spent I fucked up her last name too. So that was my first interaction with with Tassia calling her tessa tales. So because, you know, she's she's, like, she's a big role model for me, like, being in the show and just everything she's done all of her success and everything. So Speaker 1
not not to have Speaker 5
I didn't really figure that out until after, Jared, Jared came up to to me. Mhmm. And she walked up and he said this is, like, one of the biggest people we have on Shoresy. Yeah. And as soon as you said that, I knew that that was who it was. Right? It was acting like Speaker 2
son of a bitch. Speaker 5
And I was like, I was like, oh my god, this jaw dropped. She started laughing, and then she started laughing. So she she knew who I knew she knew I knew who she was. She wouldn't play into it. So That was, like, my first interaction Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
Yeah. -- with one of the cast members, and that's a that's a pretty funny one. Pretty embarrassing one too. You you was. Enjoy that story. Speaker 3
You must have replayed that conversation in your head all night. Oh Speaker 5
my god. I guess the whole night, I thought so Like, there's no way I messed up her name. I called her the wrong name. Speaker 4
You must have turned red. Right? Yeah. It must have turned red. Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Speaker 5
That was That was a tough one to swallow, but but it she knew it was a mistake and everything. Speaker 2
I I Speaker 1
don't mean to add to your anxiety about your that first encounter with her. But I'm gonna say that's probably not the first mess up you did there. The first mess up might have been if you had actually told her that it was your favorite show growing up. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't tell her that. I just said I Speaker 1
love Okay. Good. Speaker 5
For one hundred. I love the show, but I can't think I didn't say it was my favorite show because then I wouldn't be a true die hard fan if I said that. Speaker 1
I think the growing up part might have maybe ticked her off a bit. Yeah. Probably. Speaker 5
Probably. Speaker 1
Our friend, Sarah from Wisconsin asked as one of the few, actors that have appeared on screen in both shows, both Letter Kenny and Shoresy, what are some of the differences between the two sets? And I know you're only on a couple of episodes, but can you, you know, pin down some differences? Speaker 5
Yeah. I think I think the biggest difference for me was, like, with Shoresy, it's all hockey. It's a it's a team atmosphere. It's a team. Everyone there was a team cast crew, everyone involved. And I you really feel that on set, no matter who you are. And I think and, obviously, it was filmed, like, in the arena mostly. Speaker 2
So It it felt like it felt like hockey. Speaker 5
You know what Speaker 2
I mean? Speaker 5
Where's letter Kenny was kinda more more like a natural, like, standard film set or whatever you call it. So, yeah, I would say that was the biggest difference to just, like, I guess I guess you call, like, the brotherhood that was formed with Shores in the everyone reacted and responded to each other. Obviously, the set being, like, on the ice is is pretty, Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 5
It's pretty relevant. So I think that was the biggest thing I noticed was just, like, the attitude towards Speaker 0
-- Speaker 2
Mhmm. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
the two shows. Yeah. Speaker 2
What's the Speaker 5
biggest difference for me? Mhmm. Yeah. Speaker 2
And the brotherhood and even the family invited me to talk about that. I mean, we've talked to many people from both shows, and they all express the same idea. But in Shores, especially you can see it beyond the show. Like, you know, we follow most of you guys on on social stuff, but, like, all the slots and and and the and the girls, they all still hang out. Like, I think I saw what Anson and Kailani Rose and Bla La Mora and Dola all out in PI together, like, last week. Like, though, they're regularly seeing each other outside of the show. These are real bonds that people are creating, from these sets. Speaker 4
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Speaker 5
There's a lot of good relationships that are being made through it with everyone. And I'm sure it was with them, like, with Fladder Kenny as well, but Speaker 0
-- Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
I think it's a lot more prominent with Shoresy because they're they're your teammates, right? They're teammates, your brothers. So Speaker 2
It's all it's Speaker 1
also a mentality. It's a new show. It's a new show with a new cast too. Right? I'm sure. I mean, Yeah. The letter Kenny Cas, they're all now kind of vets. Right? They all have their separate projects going on, their separate careers going on. But when it first started, I bet you a lot of those that cast, you know, stuck together as well. Speaker 4
Yeah. But but I'll, like, you know, with Letter Kenny, a lot of them were actors to begin with. Right. Yeah. That's that that's the key differentiator here. I think there's a lot of these the castings are not professional actors. These are just regular regular hockey players, yeah. Who are who are into hockey. So there's that bond before you ever start filming. Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 4
Yeah. So I think that's really cool. Speaker 2
Well, can you say that, like, your teammates? I think you're one of your team first, and then you're almost actors making a show second. Speaker 5
Yeah. I guess that's one of the biggest too I noticed was, like, with Letter Kenny, like, they're all they've been through it before. Right? They're they're professionals. They've they're veterans. So you get that kind of sense from it that, like, Like, this is a job. Like, obviously, I'm having fun, but this is a job I'm working. Speaker 2
Yeah. You know, Speaker 5
I'd know what I'm doing. Whereas with Shores, you, like, like you just said, that like, you know, they're for hockey players. Right? And I remember asking Jared that, one of the first time they saw him for filming Shoresy was, like, like, what was the decision for that? And he he told me that It's a lot easier to get hockey players to act than get actors to play hockey. Sure. Speaker 2
And I Speaker 5
think that was really a big thing. And it showed in the in the season too, like, almost obviously all the the hockey scenes and snapping the puck around and skating everything. It looks really real. Speaker 1
So Yeah. Speaker 5
Yeah. That was another big thing too. Speaker 2
Yeah. You said you sat in, as an extra on on some of the shorty scenes. Were they were they playing hockey in those scenes as well? Because I know the ones that we saw, they were going all out. Like, it was, like, at some points, we were almost, like, real cheering because the intensity of some of the plays that they had manufactured for the show felt as real as going to a game. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. There was a yep. There was most of the scenes were were hockey scenes. Mhmm. There's obviously some of the bench scenes and Jared or sure as you lip and then whatever. Speaker 0
But, yeah, Speaker 5
that was a big thing I noticed too. It's like a lot of the the extras or the hockey players They might have been hockey players, but they weren't they weren't, like, super, super great. Like, it was a lot slower pace as far as, like, the filming goes with the different plays and everything. I noticed that that is like a lot, a lot softer passes and slower skating. Speaker 1
On letter channels, Speaker 5
like it's Yeah. Okay. It's it's hardcore. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
Our buddy Tobias from miss Missouri wants to know what would be your dream role? I mean, you're only getting kinda started now, but if if there's one dream role, theater or TV, or maybe give us one from each. Speaker 5
Okay. Yeah. That's a good question, Ashley. I've always said that I really wanna have a death scene in the movie. Speaker 2
Okay. Speaker 5
I don't I seen that be super cool. So maybe I think as far as, like, like, in front of the camera for, I guess, movie or TV or whatever, would be maybe like a war movie, be a war movie, and have a super cool death scene or something. Speaker 1
Nice. Or it'd it'd be cool Speaker 5
to be, like, some a part of some sort of, like, universe two, like like Marvel would be cool. Obviously, that's a lot of shot in the dark, but like being like Spiderman or something, that would be unreal. And as far as, theater goes, I don't know. I've con honestly, I've done I've done a bunch of different, roles with within theater, like, different, like, you know, dramatic and comedy and stat and angry and stuff like that. So I don't know. I don't I think anything with theater, I would I would be happy to do. Musical? Everything except the music. Speaker 2
So you don't have the pipes. Speaker 5
That's the one thing I'm not really into. Speaker 3
No. No and then dancing going on? Speaker 5
Unfortunately, not. Speaker 3
You got moves in hockey. You got Speaker 1
I was gonna say Dylan Playfair can give you some pointers for dancing. Speaker 5
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. And it's actually funny you bring that up because, when we were extras in season seven or eight or whatever, after we filmed like, oh, I guess, Shoresy and Bradley Jonesy filmed their scenes. They actually came up and did a Q and A, those three Jared and Dylan and Andrew. So it was cool to be right there and I get to ask some questions about their journey and how they kinda came to where they are and how they got into acting and all that. And those three all, like, they played hockey and stuff growing up. Right? So I can really relate to kind of their stories. And now that I'm playing the same role as them, just the younger version. It's pretty cool. Speaker 1
I think you need to mind Dylan for some of those Disney contacts, and that way you can get But then you'll need to. Speaker 5
I should. You'll need to do Speaker 1
some singing at the end or something. Speaker 2
Tons in in, in Disney for sure. Speaker 1
Tobias also wants to know, you know, what are what are your hobbies kind of off screen? Like, what do you do when you're not, shooting movies or or producing plays? Speaker 5
Basically anything sports related. Like, I love just throwing the ball around or, you know, going out with some buddies and playing hockey. You're going for round to golf or something. I like to stay active. Like, I'll be at hockey baseball golf. I like to do that whenever I can. I golf a fair, but I work at a golf course right now. Speaker 2
So if Speaker 5
it works out that I can just go out right after work and hit hit the link. So I like doing that. I also like just to hang out with friends, you know, you know, just obviously have Speaker 2
a couple drinks or something on the weekends with them. Speaker 5
But I'm really just relaxing and not doing anything, I really enjoy, I'm a big history guy. I love history and, like, and, like, Greek mythology and stuff like that. And I also really, like, like, nature and animals and stuff. So I found myself watching a lot of documentaries on, you know, conspiracy theories or, you know, history, some sort of history, like, the wars or whatever it may be, and animal plan and stuff like that. So I like to watch documentaries for sure too. Speaker 1
Very cool. Speaker 4
Sorry. So you're gonna check out Oppenheimer, I I guess? Speaker 5
Actually, I've already seen it. Oh, yeah. I watched it the other day. It's amazing. Speaker 2
Did you see Barbie as well? Sorry. Did you see Barbie as well? Speaker 5
No. I didn't watch that. You wanted to learn more than anything. So I don't think that's allowed in. Speaker 1
Oh, the blue spatula's out. Wow. It's been a while. Who's your team? Who's your hockey team? Who do you, cheer for? Speaker 5
I like the Pittsburgh penguins. Speaker 1
Oh. I'm a Speaker 5
big trusty guy. I -- Okay. Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
I idolized him growing up. I got jerseys and posters and stuff in my room Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
Okay. -- of him. So, yep, I've been a Diet pen fan for my life. Speaker 2
So you're following your hero and not the team. Speaker 4
But but they're done. Right? Like, you agree they're probably done. Speaker 5
Yeah. They're they're windows closing quick. Maybe maybe, like, they can make a run the next two years, but if they don't, then they're, yeah, they're screwed and they're screwed once car was being mauled and all those guys are tires. So I don't know. We'll see. I'll probably still cheer for them, but it'll be tough couple years for sure. There were you know, there Speaker 4
was a hockey movie with Van Dam, filmed in the, Speaker 1
face off. No. No. Not. No. Speaker 4
Not face off. Speaker 2
Sudden debt. Speaker 1
Sudden debt. Sudden debt. That's it. Yeah. Speaker 4
So if you haven't checked it out No. Speaker 1
Don't don't bother. It's a horrible. Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, It's amazing out. That's back. Speaker 0
Take that back out. It's a bad movie. Speaker 4
Don't listen to him. Speaker 2
Head a line. Speaker 1
I'm a Van Dam fan, but that one there's a little bit of my okay. Cool. I mean, Keegan, you've you've given us, what? Oh, almost an hour of your time. So we really pre will just go around the horn and maybe get a few last questions, Tanya? Speaker 3
Yeah. Thank you so much for for spending your time with us. It was a blast listening to your stories. I guess the only question I would have is, you know, coming from an actor's perspective because there wasn't, many actors in the Shoresy lineup. Did you feel that you were wanting to kinda give some feedback to people or give some tips on on on how to do certain things or where you just kind of, popping more painkillers and trying to keep it to yourself. Speaker 5
Because he that was his first time acting. Speaker 1
So I Speaker 5
kinda showed him the ropes and and did whatever I to help him and make sure he felt comfortable and everything. But to be honest, like, with the main cast as I feel like I didn't really have a place to tell them what to do. Speaker 2
I mean, if if anyone's gonna do, Speaker 5
it's gonna be Jared. Speaker 2
So -- Sure. Yeah. Speaker 0
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I didn't I didn't tell anybody except for Burke, you know, just kinda gave him from, like, my experiences and show them, like, the rundown of call sheets and everything, but and two, I wasn't I didn't get to film with any of, like, the slots or anything. Right? Speaker 2
So I Speaker 5
didn't get to kinda be there and, like, give comments or anything. Yeah. I got to watch it because I was I was on set, but I didn't get to actually be right there and show them or tell them what I maybe saw it. Speaker 3
Do you feel because of your your art, like, you already had a couple of times that you were, you know, watching everything? Like, you were you were you less nervous even though you were like excited that you got the call, you got the the you got to go and and be part of the show, Was there a little bit less nerves to it? Speaker 5
Yeah. I thought so. I thought, like, when I when I booked a role on my first route there, I was like, yeah, like, been I've been on probably four or five film sets now. I I kinda know know what it's all about. But as soon as that camera starts rolling, all those you know, the confidence and stuff, like, kind of dribbles away. Speaker 3
Like, oh, shit. Speaker 5
Here we go. So, yeah, I, like, I, I was definitely excited. And, like, I was definitely excited about, you know, the whole whole situation and being able to be a part of this universe. But, yeah, I was definitely still nerve wracking because this is This is like the the biggest part I've ever had. Right? So, yeah, it was it was a learning curve, but I think as after you get the first couple of scenes down, then it's awesome with sailing. Speaker 3
Is it is there a routine to it all now? Like with stage or, with film? Like, do you have like a morning routine? Like trying to get the jitters out? Speaker 5
Nothing like set in stone. I I kind of have a routine for theater, just like right before a show, obviously, once I get to the to the theater, then I kinda do my own thing. But with film, not really because we're on set so early. Right? Like, you wake up Speaker 0
-- Speaker 3
No time. Speaker 0
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and you go right to right to base camp and everything. So I think once I'm on on base camp, then I kinda ended a bit of routine, you know, and sit there, turn the heat up. I, like, like, a nice and a lot in my trailer and, just run lines, basically, run lines and then rip before her and make up when I get the the the warning that I'm gonna go to hair and makeup for five minutes or whatever. That's when I put my costume on. And then I go to hair and makeup. And then after that, we roll. So Nice. Speaker 2
There's a little bit of Speaker 5
a routine, but nothing like I follow, like Speaker 0
-- Speaker 5
Yeah. -- like through and through. Right. Nice. Victor? Speaker 4
Well, so first, thanks for joining, joining us and giving us your time. I thought, you know, that's really, really great. So comment, first, I think it's great that, you didn't get the part on youngblood because who the hell the heck knows of that movie is even ever gonna get paid now with the strike Right. Speaker 1
So I Speaker 4
think I think it chose the right horse here or or the horse chose you, one or the other, because I see many, many, many seasons of Shores in our in in in your future. Speaker 2
Oh, so Speaker 5
yeah. That'd be awesome. Speaker 4
Yeah. So and and the second question is, if you've seen the Major League movies, if you haven't, you should probably go back and watch them because they're hilarious. But, one of the things about those major league movies is, you know, the the weird traditions. I guess it builds a little bit on Tanya question, but more specifically for sports when you're kinda playing hockey. And do you have any weird, superstitions that you kind of, go go back to, before a game or or before a shoot. Speaker 5
Yeah. With hockey, I remember this this might have been. I don't know. It might have been pee wee or something maybe fourteen or thirteen or fourteen. One of my one of my teammates is, mom had breast cancer and his breast cancer month. So, we all had, like, a a little ring of black taper on our stick Speaker 2
And Speaker 5
I remember the first game I did that. I, I got like a hat trick. Speaker 2
I thought Speaker 5
it was definitely the tape. So, ever since then, I've I've transitioned the role the the one roll of black tape to my knobs. So every time I tape my knob, I always have a black strip right at the bottom of my handle. So Nice. Kindly settle down, Speaker 4
he's talking about his hockey stick. So, just Speaker 3
Gotta get some stick taper on this knob. Speaker 1
Behavior yourself. We have we have company. Come on. Matt, Matt. Your your question. Speaker 2
So first, yeah, congrats on Jersey. I mean, looking so forward to what's to come. You've been a blast today. I will say, I'm looking forward to listening to something back again, and I know our listeners will be. You've actually shared probably two or three of my favorite stories. Across the interviews that we've done. Like, the the whole idea of your entire class going out to start I thought that was a wild story. Such a cool experience to give you some exposure. And and, of course, your class and everything and that connection with your teacher, I think, is really well. But Tasiya introduction is amazing. And I and I know there was one more slip in my mind, but you you've been an absolute blast, my friend. My question, which I asked everyone, and, again, feel free to answer this in whatever makes sense to you is I mean, you obviously know a letter Kenny, you now know Shoresy. I think you have an idea of the reach and the impact these shows are having. There's a big following that's growing every day in these things. From your perspective, how's it felt to be a part of it? Speaker 5
You know what? The the biggest thing I can say is just I'm grateful, you know, is is opportunity doesn't come around very often and to be able to be a part of something so huge and so special not only for me and for my hometown and Jared, but, like, the entire world and everyone around, it's it's been unreal. And, it's something I definitely don't take for granted, and I try so good as much as I can. Yeah, it's it's truly a blessing to be able to be apart both Better Kenny and Shoresy, but you know, especially with this part of Leah ensures the, to be able to be a part of this universe and to, you know, have an impact on people, whether that's makes them laugh or just enjoy the show in general, and and a broad audience too. I think it it's truly special. And it's it's totally I just I can't put in the words honestly. Like, it's something I could never imagine. Speaker 2
Amazing. Well, thanks, man, and all the best. You are Speaker 1
Thank you. You started off saying how you you wanted to get into acting because you saw these kids on stranger things, you know, being on this cult favorite show. Well, guess what? You're on a cult favorite show, whether you know it or not. Short. And we said this to Burke last time too. Even if it it won't happen because like Victor says, there's gonna be many seasons of this to come. But even if it stopped at season two, you're already on a show that if there's like comic cons or or or fans exposed in the future, you you you can be busy if you wanna be. I think you can show up at these and you can You can be Liam from from Shoresy and sign autographs and take pictures to your artist's content. You're already there, bud. You're already part of a universe, the universe that we like called the Letter Kenny and Shoresy University. You're already there. So you I mean, you're you're what I'm saying is you're peaking in your early twenties. I don't know what you're gonna do after this, but Well done. Thank you so much for all the time you've given us. Tell us, if there's anything you'd like to shed so any any light on, like, promotes or, like, where people can follow you on socials. Speaker 5
Yeah. Well, the first thing I'm gonna stay. I've lost some of your podcasts. It's great. I love it. I'm a no bowl guy with my sticks. I don't I don't like that. Speaker 2
Oh, that's Speaker 1
I don't Speaker 5
even think I've ever used. Speaker 2
You got another one on a no bowl. It makes Speaker 5
no fun. Speaker 3
No, boy. Sense. Speaker 1
Oh, blue spatula from there. Speaker 3
Come on. What do you you you have nuts on the floor and dirty house. Speaker 5
Easy there. Easy there. I'm talking about the anvil. You need it. Speaker 2
I need it Speaker 3
in an emerald. Yeah. See, a handful is so bold. Speaker 5
Exactly. It is. Yeah. I don't know. I got a a fundraiser in the works that I've been thinking about for a couple months now that, hopefully, I can released to the, well, I guess, the world. Speaker 2
Mhmm. I Speaker 5
don't know how far I'd reach, but, in the next month or two, I got some kind of plan. And I'm hoping I can maybe somehow get the cast of Shoresy. Not not not they'd be a part of it, but just get them connected somehow. Wanna say too much just some people I have to talk to about that, but there's definitely a fundraiser that, I have in the works that I'm looking to do. Yeah. Yes. Speaker 2
When when that's when that's ready, I guess, Speaker 3
yeah, we'll amplify Speaker 2
on our shows and amplify from our angle too. Speaker 5
Yeah. Perfect. Appreciate that. Yeah. I will. Yeah, instagram, I guess you can see the updates of that when it comes to my Instagram, keep long nine. I don't have Twitter. I got TikTok, but it's I don't really post on it. So I guess if you wanna follow that and see just some clips of Shortzy, I think it's Keegen Long nine. Yeah. Other than that, I guess, just stay tuned for for season two of showers. It gets really awesome. For the last, full of full laughter. So, yeah, and, I'm excited for that, and I'm excited for everybody else to see that. I just wanna thank you guys for having me on. It's been a pleasure. Absolute blast. At a great time. So, hopefully, we can do this again sometime. Speaker 1
Alright, man. Yeah. We'll we'll get you back after season two airs for sure. When I asked you, if there's a you'd like us to play you off with. You gave me this song here. It's, from Shoresy, hex by ARC Patrol. Here, let's listen to it. Speaker 5
Favorite song, the soundtrack, sure. Yeah. Speaker 1
And that's all we have for this episode. Don't forget you can use a promo code produce stand for twenty percent off any purchase at diaballco coffee dot com. If you'd like support the podcast rate us on iTunes Spotify or become a patron. You can follow us on most social media outlets at produce and pod. Thanks for joining us. Now we're gonna go have Speaker 2
some hot dogs, and bag of chips with our new friend Keegan on behalf of Keegan, Tania, Matt Victor, and myself. Thank you Speaker 1
for listening, and have a great week. 
