TPS170: An Interview With Trevor Risk (Writer on Letterkenny and Shoresy)
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Al sits down for a rare in-person interview with Trevor Risk, writer on both Letterkenny and Shoresy.
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Hey everyone. Out here. I have got a bit of a different episode for you this week. I was recently in Montreal recording stories for my other podcast. Yes, we're open. So I thought I would take advantage and reach out to Trevor risk to see if he'd be interested in an interview. You may recall Trevor's been on the podcast before but never for his own interview. So I wanted to remedy that and Trevor was game. He came to my hotel room and you're about to hear our conversation. Unfortunately there's no Tanya match or a Victor in this just being Trevor, but he was great and very giving of his time. Before we begin tonight's episode, I would like to give a quick shout-out to our sponsor diabolical coffee. It's devilishly, good coffee, and diabolically awesome swag. There's Rose for all tastes. You can order whole being course and standard grind espresso. There's even a K-Cup option for single cup Brewers. And right now, you can use the promo code produce, and for 20% off, anything in the store. That's 20% off all coffee and merch. Thank you diabolical coffee, and Eric for your support. Now, on to my chat with Trevor risk that fresh produce stand there, It's a beauty. What do you listen to my favorite murder podcast? Tagging. Torrents podcast. The produce stand f****** sexy. You have been on before and you were kind of ambushed when you came on the first time on one of our egg Halls social. Yeah. You remember that vaguely. I remember it was during lockdown. Yeah. And so there was, you know, any portal to the outside world. I was absolutely key to jump on not that I wouldn't do it again. No, I do, but I definitely remember. I was a few of the few Jins deep a couple of sheets already and yeah, awesome will kill me for bringing that up, but I have to Because, you know, we have to be factually accurate here. This isn't my first time speaking to you we have to if we give me one thing we should be accurate. That's right. That's how it goes, right? That's the line. Yeah. I thought maybe you wrote it. Um, I think someone wrote it about me. I think I have this guess the first time I heard that was I was told that I spelt Riley's name wrong in every script. Okay, is it? I before E instead of a man Ike I don't know, I don't know. Like Look it up on IMDb every time I write one now because I forget, I mean, do you even know which ones? Which because I mean, there's still peopled in our group who, who question, which one's Riley and which ones Jonesy I think that. Yeah. No, I got them placed. I think they will we kind of write them just as one person. Yes. You know. Yeah. Notice that I think you could and don't demean. I am not tirely sure. But I think you could probably replace each one with each one. Sure. Hmm. I mean they both take Katie there's a great visual joke. In one of the episodes that you won't, I mean, if you're not paying attention, you will miss it. Or if you haven't watched it a hundred times when they have the bottle of, was it riddlin? Yeah. It's got both their names on it. And so to our American listeners you generally don't get prescriptions written out to two people. Yeah. In Canada. That's not a Canadian thing. Do Americans have? No, I don't think so but just in case they think we do just as party people in America gettin like 10 names on it you know just popping out. Also, just to be safe. Just to be safe. Yeah, the visual stuff on the show is some of my favorite stuff when I rewatch it. Yeah, there's a look that Tyler gives Michelle after Michelle flashes. Her girls at him in the spelling bee and that is just, yeah, it's just Primo, facial acting. It's and exactly the look, you're talking great, look, it's a great look. I like the way that Andrew, and we don't fight it wedding, says, look, he goes when it goes door but it And I think the I am afraid I just can't remember the person's name, who does the graphics and Angela me Danny, is it? Yeah, it's Daddy. Yes. Yeah. I mean if you were to just like zoom in and enhance it, a lot of things like the posters and the gym about like taking down men, it's like an M&M has like learn MMA. Learn how to take down man? Just like I saw that and dig a Little Pete, a little, my pants, it was great. I mean, who writes? Those They just the art Department, might come up with something to say, this might be funny and then show it to Jarrod or um, I am not sure if somebody has it. I have never liked. Here's the thing. Like we like the writers, we like start something, we pitch stuff we go through that. We go through outlines and Etc and then by the time it's actually comes out just like a million hands. It's touched it. Yeah. So you watch her like did I don't know? Like you can't even say like I wrote that joke cause you're like, I don't Remember right. Also, you know, the editing is making it funnier gravity Parts being funny or the directing the acting like that's like, you know. So it's like, yeah, I don't even feel like you could say, I wrote like it's like that's sure. It's a, it's a communist joke. It's our joke, comrade belongs to us all. All right, well, let us start. I mean, you again, you were on one of our big house a while ago, and I remember you saying you were originally, you're from a place near ottawa's. I right. That's true. Where was, what was the name? I grew up in a town called arm prior arm, prior to 6,000 people. Mmm, so not unlike Letterkenny, right? Yeah, there's definitely some, there's a couple. I think it's like one or two like Easter eggs about arm prior that's in it. Okay. And I think sometimes some, especially the more colloquial language is stuff that I remember my brother's dick head friend saying to me, right in the 90s, you know, I got the impression you didn't last too long, in Iron prior, Then you got the hell out as soon as you could. I mean, here's the thing I was such an obnoxious pretentious, lonely kid that I think I would have gotten run out of town if I didn't leave. Right. Okay. Yeah I was definitely like a just, you know, some of us teenagers go through that thing where we just think we're we know better. I think I was that kind of kid, so I would there wasn't definitely Not for me there but I also was not contributing anything to that town and I have mild regrets about that so early on know what was it that got you first? Was it music? Was it writing? What were you interested in first? I always did both at the same time. Yeah I mean I when I was in high school I was performing music, and I was also sort of taken every English class. I could, you know, sort of connecting with the good, the good English teachers I had. I remember in the eighth grade, Grade. I had a teacher who every time I f***** up in class, he would get me to write one page about why I f***** up in class and his name was Mr. Bob Bridges, and he just Trevor, I am going to Mr. Risk. You take Mr. Issa. I need you to write a one-page plan on why we use all four legs on the chair when we're sitting in class. Oh my God, I did. Yeah, okay. Did the same thing? Yeah, back in the class leaning back. Yeah, now a whole page on that is tough to do. You got to get creative and add the last day of school. We thought We going to do less is school, and he's just like, I am going to read all of the plants that everyone wrote me all day, and I was 90% of them. And there's a part of me that feels like he was just encouraging me to write in whatever way I kind of could I really like that? But I was doing all the same time and then when I was in my 20s, I was a night club DJ in a recording artist, but I was also the editor of a magazine. Yeah I have got all that. Yeah we're going to talk about all that. Well boys we're just going to sit here and talk. This is my life. Hey, is your life know? God so flattered and in coming through that door now is no I am just catching see, okay? I mean, she's a very fetching woman continues to be 70 years old. Yeah. Oh wow. Okay you are you have got a bit of in this Obsession. Okay it's not. I was explaining this so in the other night and because she asked me and it just sort of started like one of these things that like through like a therapist was like routine is good, and I was Retained. What does that mean? Do I have to like start take up jogging or something? It's like, it can literally be anything and one of my best friends in the world. Dan Ferrari found some peace in his routine and his was every day. He listened to the song Slow by Kylie Minogue and every day, he put up a picture. That was a beautiful end up being beautiful Graphics of him listening to slow by Kylie Minogue on the hundredth day. She personally thanked him, he has a tattoo of a non 0. So this is just a campaign of you getting some sort of personal message? No, I already got. That like a month into this, but I definitely was having like a bit of struggles in my life and I think it was around the time, like, covid started, and I was like, I need a routine and I just started pairing songs on Instagram, which 81. I would be honest with you. I don't watch Jane Seymour movies, like I was never a doctor Quinn person. I mean, I have seen the dot the, I have seen the James Bond, right? But I mean everybody has but I get these meds people like oh she's in this new Netflix. Look at that watching that trash So where did this come from them? It's just like its kind of running gag and it's also kind of just therapeutic that have something to do like a routine to do every day. I think she's wonderful. Like I learn more about her, you know, she's married to Stacy. Keach has brother, which is great? Stacy Keach. Kind of looks a little bit like Powers Boothe. So I like them. And he's a little bigger than caci. Call it James and the Giant Peach. That's what I call their marriage. You know, she seems great. I seem to like, well, when I catch an academy on something accidentally, but like, I am not, I am not gonna like, try to shoot the president, to try to get her attention. Sure, I am not going to John Hinckley this, okay, I promise. So you're around, you know. Level 3. How many levels are we talking? Let us save 66. Yeah, I will take that. That's what I have. A picture of her in my house, but that was a gift. And ironic gift that you cherish, you know, nobody, this is the first time anyone's really hearing of me being like this is kind of like it's not real, like people think I genuinely obsessed so it gave me these things. Like I have my friend Heather, I have these coasters that she made, which is her, and the guy from Dr. Quinn. The guy who was in Showgirls, it doesn't matter, man. And my face is in his face and those are just the people rest during some of those in my house. First, they were the all just give Yes. Yes. And again, she seems like a delightful woman absolute Gem. And I like her when I see her stuff. But like it's just, it's just kind of therapy. Sure. So music and DJing at, or music and writing at a high school. Sure. Where do you go next? Like this, you go out west. Is that where you end up? Yes. Yeah. 18, my left and went to Vancouver for about 16 years, I think. Yeah. And that was just because you do the Our that you can get away from our prior. There was some of that there was a when I met Jonathan torrents, I still manage a music venue and I put on his tiger and torrents podcast, and we had just started writing for other Kenny. So we sort of work in a little bit together, and he met and I told him that was like the reason I moved to Vancouver was I think I was like 16, and I was, you know, in Ontario it was about this time of year as mid-march, and they had a show live from Vancouver and it was like, limb lifter, I think playing, and they were outside and it was just there were flowers blooming and people were wearing a light jacket and I looked outside, and I was in snow jail and like, I don't even mind snow now. But like when you're living in a small town, in the 90s, you're just like, you could go outside, but there's nothing outside, you know, outside is just pain, ouch pain. And there's nothing outside. When you go out there, you're like now I am outside is like here, like Montreal or something, you can go outside, like, people are still always out. It has the no matter how cold it is. Yeah. And it's great. But like, so I saw that and I just remembered that moment. I was like thanks Jonathan torrents, I am moving to Vancouver. Yeah, I had never been there and never been on a plane before like I never had and I had like three hundred dollars in my pocket and yeah went there. So I don't cover the glass pyramid Cooper. And then what we could go down a real bad Rabbit Hole of things about. We won't We're not doing. We're not doing my word podcast. Now we're this is about lettered Kim. That's not gonna go. All right, so you start DJing out there and you were also in a bunch of bands here. See, no spots. Oh wow, the good news of V Wecker Ensemble. Yeah. Let us well, that was a briefing. That was in debt, was I got a Keith wicker. Who was a guy who played in a noise? Orchestra with famous noise, composer. Glenn branca. Okay, and he put together a bunch of us. To be in his noise Orchestra and it was a hell of an experience, because I am Flora more of a pop music guy. Sure. So what I mean noise Orchestra was that like what neoclassical or sort of like? Because it wasn't there was now a lot of noise artist do a lot of pedals, a lot of you know, effects that kind of thing. The this one was the sort of classic one where it's like all instruments and no effects it's like clean tone whatever. So my guitar had All right, all the strings ripped off and put on really fat strings and tuned to certain way and a certain moment I would hit these sort of dissonant chords time with everything else that was in Ottawa. I am so this is your good research is impressive. You know Dr. Google I am sure medium. Cool. And then there's this band here. Some Letterkenny list or Watchers would probably know it's called 200 Grand band is called sun shining. Why am I playing this life? He had because when dairies having a super soft birthday, that's me singing in the background. So are you are always you usually the lead guitarist and singer and the bands or no, no I think Sunshine it was Has its creation was I got tired of singers? I am not a great singer but I just got tired of the drama of sure singers in my other bands. It's a great song. I mean I love listening to it. So you got this. Let us all right. So I guess is where we should probably talk about, you know, a little bit of a letter. Can you how do you get involved in letter? Can I, you know, I would known Jared since we worked in a bar together. I was an inch and Hoover. Yeah. Okay. I was a resident DJ, and he was Work and support staff there. And we'd always just stayed friends, always made kind of jokes and you know, Jared when he made Letterkenny, those first few seasons. All the music is unsigned artists right? Which is super cool. I think just going to bed for that and just it's just unheard-of, you know, television. So he put some of my stuff in there. Kind enough to do that. Yeah, and then, you know, we just still been friends and I think we were just a few times gone back and forth on a few, a few jokes about its tough. And then one day he just sent me a text and said, welcome to the writers room. And I think the next text was, there's no actual room, right? That's what I have always wanted to be in a writers room. You're telling me there's no room. I don't think I have never been to one. No. Well, okay, let us talk a little bit. Little bit about your writing. I mean, you're No rookie there. Either you wrote for the Huffington Post, the lab Vancouver Sun, each side games? What was that? Is that The monotony letter Monopoly, Letterkenny Monopoly. You know, I actually write for eastside games. A few games, I write the Trailer Park Boys game. Oh, the their video games, are they pretty? Okay, yeah, I know, I did write the Monopoly. Yeah, and I remember you Tommy, that's when I saw the games. I thought. Yes, what it was. I did, I mean, I sort of edited them like, but like I put in a few things here and there like that people, there did so whatever. But like, there's a few things that I, yeah, I smooshed around or whatever. So, so the writings been in large part, well, music about music, right. You write about music? Yeah, I think some of the stuff I did for vice wasn't so much about music. It was just sort of loosely journalistic kind of stuff. I was interested in. I wrote a piece about these two trans artists who were kicked off of an airline in Canada. I wrote a piece about a neurological affectation that I have is a little rare. I did an interview with someone who was a Jeanette's 43 years old. Now, sort of how that gonna go. Like, just sort of like, saw that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was. So, I just a few things like that Huffington Post. Yeah, with some music stuff. Yeah, I think it was a lot of it was music stuff, but not always. Yeah, you know, and that's just from, you're DJing and from playing in the band and stuff, you're just immersed in that. And that scene out there, I did every job in music except agent, like I worked as a publicist for an America. How much for a while? I was in management. I worked at a label for a while. I liked organ records. Yeah. Light organ records. Yeah. I you know, I was a Booker, I did. And I sort of did all of them and then I realized I didn't like music anymore. Oh no, you got burnt out of it. It's just like he's people tell you. Like if you work on what you love, you never look at him like you know you have also everyone hates their job a little bit. Yeah. And, so I realized every time I hear a song I will be like can Do they have representation or can I DJ this song? And it just like commodifying it instead of enjoying it? Sure. Yeah, I did that. Yeah. That I mean, that makes sense. If you're not enjoying anymore, your kind of applying. Well, how can I help these people or how can I work with these people or yeah, and the music industry's as just not adapted very well to? Yeah, could turn likes, you know, so like music journalist just isn't even a job anymore. So when's the last time you performed in front of an audience? Like not DJing but like actually Oh I haven't touched instrument in five years. Yeah that's it. No, no, not at all. No i.d. Jade last week down in Nashville. Yeah that was great. I still like doing that once in a while. I don't like love the club setting but I love so sharing music and stuff and this is a club that is just run by. I mean, I am DJing with the owner of the club, and he's terrific, and he mixed a such a great space for everybody. And so, I like doing that. I, you know, I DJ the Is here at party. Which was a lot of fun just not too far from here right? But yeah, I don't really miss it. I was never amazing at it and I think I just developed ass, not to get too philosophical here, but I think I developed this approach to life, which is just follow opportunities, you know. Sure. And stop trying to kick water uphill. If there's something that you just like you want to do so bad but you just maybe not touted for it. Like there're other things you might be right more inclined to do. And I also have realized that I really like working Alone, you know everything in Letterkenny a super collaborative. Obviously, you know, saying that earlier, like everyone has a hand in why something is funny or, you know, or as good storytelling. But for the most part, I just talked to Jared, you know, and same with Eastside games. Like I just there's one person there who's just a wonderful name's Jamie Henwood and like, we just mostly just her. And I talked and I like collaborating, but I like collaborating in the like I did this. Now, here's The assembly line monster on Macedon and you do your thing to it. And I or I like working with people when I get to choose them. Sure, you know. But just sort of sometimes, it can be just very frustrating for me to have to like, when people talk to me about going to University and doing group projects, I just wanna blow my brains out. Yeah, you're also a program director at a fox Cabaret. Yes. Yes, I was over there. That's why I put on that torrents than Taggart. Oh okay. Yeah. So what did. So your book or your booking, the ax? Yeah. Yeah. Sort of every day of the week and early show in a late show and there were two rooms. So you know there are a range from things from, you know, overly stuff like stain things like you know, book releases right stuff to like very like larger? Not like it was a big enough venue that it was. We got bands that were on their way up to In play Arenas, right are bands that are on their way down after playing Arenas you know must have been a very different personality. Either way like going up you're probably full of piss and vinegar and the world's our oyster coming down there probably very beaten down and there's that saying you know you see everyone on the way up sure. And you got to be nice to them work because you see him again on the way back to. Yeah and you see some of these artists on the way up, and they're not being nice to people and you're like ooh you're going to fall further than Miss. my friend. Yeah. Did you ever get the satisfaction of seeing the same artists on their way up and down? No, I mean I was so burned out on life like I don't even go see live music much anymore. Not like I will go see something that's more improvisational like jazz or noise or something like that. I am always been more of a record guy though and so a lot of the stuff I would book unless it was a band that I was really in love with. I would book it and take care of all the details, but I wouldn't show up usually. Yeah, yeah. All right, so, I mean, a lot is made of Jared's or the music in both Letterkenny unsure, Z jerk. And, you know, we talk about it all the great music Jared picks. Do you have any hand in that though? I mean you do have a background? No I mean I think there's like moments sometimes where a song gets in, and we think retroactively realize it was something. We used to listen to or like one of us turn the other Aunt, you know what I mean? Sure, kind of thing. But no, I mean, so primarily it's still him picking all the songs? Oh yeah. It's in this. Yeah, absolutely, and it's great. I mean like, I always laugh about how the, the use of The Chemical Brothers Electro. Bank, inshore Z is almost better than the video for Electro bank, which I think is like a Spike Jonze video. Oh wow. Yeah, it's like one of those very like it's one of those. Yeah, directors. Yeah. You know, I was saying that like the O's re-watching schwarzy recently because we're working on the next season and re-watch, it just sort of get the feel for it. Again, I think I said to someone, like my two favorite things about it, are a, the fact that some of the characters speak in French and everyone understands them and it's never, and it's never explained, or yeah, everyone's bilingual on it. And to the use of Patrick This is Born to Be Alive. So I am going to say I mean I do think that there's some interesting choices musically sometimes and that one is one of them. Were you have you know this Big Brawl set to like the happiest song right? Like I love that talk it's been part of my DJ repertoire for years. I played it like last week down in Tennessee like fun fact Madonna got her start being a backup dancer for Patrick Hernandez on that tour. First gig she ever had. Yeah It's got that by good, all the good stuff has friction, right? Like every good, every good song is like, is like happy. But was sad lyrics like, hey, you know. Yeah. Or has not even thinking back to in Letterkenny. This there's a scene where there were Wayne's beating up On Dierks. Yeah. And the song playing there, I can't remember now but it's like a kind of like an old-timey. I want to say it's a Motown, so I can't remember. But it was it just felt like, oh, that's an interesting choice for this. I wish I had my computer on. I would be able to look it up, but it was is like, that's an interesting choice for this scene. So, music is music using music to help tell the story. Yeah, is something that just dared us. So, so, well, I don't think it comes from him, loving Trainspotting so much, right? That would be my guess and because I just Danny Boyle. Does that so well? And I think this is just taken to a great level on Just I liked it like the juxtaposition of some of that stuff. Yeah, it's great. It isn't because it's unexpected to though, it just adds to the uniqueness of both shows. I think I suggested the talent show square dance song right now Swamp Thing by the grid. Yeah, yeah. I think that was my, I think that was ice like Loosely suggested sure, but I mean that song and that could have been quiet. It's like basically, you know, Walmart Cotton Eye Joe or whatever or the other way around. Right, like it's like of course that's the kind of sign you'd have there but Kudos are not using Cotton Eye Joe you know I remember that song from electric circuit. Yeah. Yeah for sure. So you yes, during that pandemic you spent a lot of time not in the country during that time. Yeah, not exactly. But yeah so like maybe four and a half years ago I left Vancouver I sort of left a lot of (For) all the reasons everyone needs Vancouver and part of it was, I realized I could live in a hotel in Sicily for cheaper than in Vancouver, right? So it started with, I am going to go to Italy and then it turned into very quickly, I am going to sell everything I own. Why like 11 guitars, like every like that was everything was going out the window and donating a lot of stuff and whatever and living out of a suitcase. Hmm. And, so I got I went I was in Italy for a few months. I was in the Czech Republic, Germany. I was in Vietnam for quite a while, the weight just on. Whims you go. I think I want to go to Vietnam now, or were their reasons for each one of those, most of them are whims. Yeah, I have a friend who works in Japan, and she said to me, oh yeah, we all holiday in Vietnam because they're the opposite of sort of like the Bushido, toxic work culture. Okay. So you find a lot of people just blowing off steam from Japan there, and I was like, oh, that sounds good. We're just like Danang and as I, alright, so just wanted to Nang. Vietnamese is the most opposite language from English on the tree, okay? Like nobody understood me and I understood nobody for the entire time was fun, it was great, but they would tell you met spoken of it was right? It is, which is great because English is everywhere. Obviously, and like, they'd be like, what's your name? And I would be like, Trevor and the bit like plastic, and I am like, not even close, but I love that, you know, the replies, that's great. Yeah. And then after Vietnam, I was in the It states, I was in Kansas City and Nashville, then a tornado destroyed my neighborhood in Nashville. And then the pandemic started that week as well. Officially and the American government said, hey, I know you have health insurance, but you're not America, and we don't know what this is. You're going to go to the back of the line if you get sick. Oh, wow. So you have to leave. Yeah, so I left, I came to Toronto. Remember that Toronto's, not for me. Came to Montreal, went to what I had planned to go to the Czech Republic, but a week before the government said, Canadians aren't allowed in here. And so then how girlfriend who's going to meet was like, whoa, I was like, where can we meet? And like, a sort of place we can both go to, and we found Albania, and so we're in Albania. And then we couldn't leave Albania because we couldn't go back to our country's, right? And there weren't flights out of Albania to other places. So we had to find another country. We could go to Via car, so we hired a stranger to drive us to Macedonia through Kosovo. The through Kosovo was a surprise. He just said, I am taking a shortcut so it's like a cab drivers the thinks he can get you there faster. Yep. He was just a guy and I got to the coast of our border and there was a giant man with a Slavic accent and a machine gun yelling at me. I didn't know he was joking because I don't get that kind of humor. Now but I have watched enough 80s movies to have my taint. Pucker a little bit when someone sure. Yeah. You know just start Screamin in a Slavic language to me, and then he just started laughing. He's joking. I am like it's not okay. It's fine. Of course. Christine's like Sonny. Oh my God, can I give you some notes? Your no jakov enough. I have got a lot of country had to sign a contract said, we weren't allowed. Spend more than three hours in Kosovo, my phone didn't work. The entire time. We were driving through it. It was odd. But yeah, stuck in the Macedonian and after that Serbia. So what are you doing in all these places? I mean, I feel like there's a script here somewhere locked down in the, you know, in the Eastern Bloc like there's got to be something there. No, I met this guy who likes like collected and serviced old Soviet watches, so I hung out with him sometimes and just smoke. Greta's little watch store. I met this woman who, you know, so we were looking for a sort of barn where like, you know, it's a good thing when you're traveling is to always look up online. What's a lgbtq friendly bar, right? Because those are usually more fun and just more like, whatever. You know, you don't want to walk into a bar, where everyone is the chain-smoking and throwing darts and generally working for the mob. So found this bar, and it was just sort of house that was tilted to the side and a woman in her 70s made her own alcohol. Like her mom taught her how to make abstinence, and she makes absinthe and Yeah, so, if you want to see God, drink, drink that stuff, drink that absinthe, that will take the anyway, I don't know, like there was some weird, like, I like to, I have been told that I exaggerated a little bit about this, but like, I mean during that period, I lived through a tornado. An earthquake, a building blowing up on my block. I got tear-gassed. Yeah, I don't know if I want you here right now. Like Trouble Follows you. I got Covid before there was a school, there was a fact seen. It was sick for almost a month and like, had to go to Albanian doctors who were lovely. I mean, you know, you're like a natural disaster hipster, you get everything before it was cool. Alternatively, you could say that I am could look like I should be dead, and I am not. Okay. All right. Okay. Well I am a bit of a rabbit's foot but yeah there's come, you know I am not visiting volcanoes or Afghanistan or something. I know there's people who Like that, I am not doing that on purpose. People are terrified of Albania for a few reasons. One, the flag is scary as hell. Okay, it's designed to keep people out. Yeah, it's f****** scary. Yeah, it's at the best at least scary at best. It looks like a bad burlesque flyer, you know? I am searching for the flag here. One second, take a little peek. I have anything that's like, It's okay, I am going to wait and wait for your reaction. Albania Whoa. Hold on, like this. Yeah, this looks like something, like, if you were doing, like, a bad 80s action movie and you needed the, the bad guys flag. Yeah, that's the perfect design for looks like the Federation from Starship Troopers. Yes, yes, yes. Oh wow. Okay. So people that makes people think you know and to all the bad guys in movies for a little while have been Albanian and a part of it is like well like the Chinese government said, if you make them Chinese we're not Gonna sell the movie here, right? So, like when they made remade bread Dawn, they were like, they made them as agendas. Like, now, you're not going to make this number, okay? And, you know, this like there's a push to not have them be Middle Eastern, like it was in the 80s and 90s obviously, for Obviously good reasons. And they're like, well, Who's Gonna Knock complaint? Like every Taken movie is just like, other goddamn albanians. I am taking my daughter and like, I don't know man. Pretty peaceful people in my mind is Prozac which country can we piss off? And it won't matter in the box office. No Binya Albania. Yeah, I know. So it almost sounds made-up. Even there's three. Main religious there. It's Islam. And Orthodox and Catholicism and in the entire history of that country and it's an old history. Never has there ever been a problem right? Which is hilarious, which is hilarious. Like I was definitely outside at like, and hearing like someone do the call to prayer, and I am like, the Orthodox or the Catholic priest. I can remember was like having coffee being like, he's not very good today. That's my friend. He's not, he's usually better than this, you know. It's like oh you guys are just passed, it's a great so. Well, I mean if you Become more inviting a country, then you will invite everyone else's problems to you if you're happy. Then yeah, maybe that's a brilliant tactics like people won't want to come here because our fright our flag is scary. Yeah. And we have the worst you know PR you know they had this dictator named whole shh, and he built himself a pyramid. Downtown Toronto to an as a tribute to himself, and when they killed him they left it up and let all like the like ever. Just like graffito taghut and drink on it. And now I want to go visit just, so I can see this pyramid. It's great just to remind them how much they hate him. Wow. And it was just announced a couple weeks ago that they're turning it into a shopping mall because they're like you know what would piss off a communist? Like the most capitalist thing we can think of perfect. Yeah it's great. It's so petty and I love it Forever 21 where his team should be. Yeah, perfect. Absolutely. Just I don't start pettiness, but reactionary pettiness, I am all about. Love ya. Let us see. So yeah, you guys are working on Shore Z now. Yeah. Is there anything you can share about that? No, no. Okay. Yeah, you know, I have to ask. Yeah. Of course. I might like I just don't think so. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's, yeah, it's got, it's gonna be great. You know. I am not known everyone, injured, We Trust. Yes. Yeah, of course, yes. That makes good sense. As you should, I would say. That's what I will share with you is knowing what's happening in the sea. And yeah, keep don't lose. Don't lose any faith. If you have some, it's going to be terrific. Let us see what are you working on other than you know, new metric stuff? Are you working on anything? Interesting exciting. Yeah, I have got working on like three different. Pitches of shows that are all at different stages and I don't know which I am allowed to necessarily share with either. I am afraid. I am sorry this is probably A bad for. No, that's all right. There's anything you wanted to help promote, you can if you can't talk about it and I just, I don't know if I can. Yeah, I am trying to get a few things, sort of off the ground. I have got this, I have talked about one, I have got this project called red light, which is a comedy about the adult industry. Oh, okay, yeah, interesting and it's it definitely makes people's eyebrow kind of raised or whatever, but it came to me with two great writers, who work in that industry. Who had kind of gotten fed up with the fact that they would be in, like, document documentaries, right? And they'd be like, hey, we're having a nice time on set that day and then I would be like the dark side of p****. I am like, what do you mean? Like, we were all hanging out and being good, which I like, yeah, what you talk about so that everyone wants to have that dark side of the exploitative part of it. And one of the writers she came to me, and she said, you know what's very frustrating is that if You want to go mainstream from the adult industry. It's nearly impossible. But if you're a mainstream star and you leak an s*******, your Q score goes way up, right? And she's like, not only is that obviously hypocritical, but like one of them is always under the idea of a leak, you know, which is like kind of implies not very consensual and one of them is like, very kids like, you know, and it's like, so maybe this is more just about taking power away from people's bodies and I guess that's kind of the point of the show is like, it's about His going into the adult industry and is dealing with the Fallout from people around her because it's like, oh my God, you can't do that. You can't work in this and it's someone who works in a who's trying to go mainstream and the people in the mainstream being like finding out that he does it. And being like we don't want you anywhere near our mainstream stuff and sort of how they meet, and they he look of that kind of school. Yeah, she's going to be a comedy. Oh yeah, no one, no one that one of the part of the Bible is No One's Gonna masturbate to this show. No. There's nothing sexy about it at all. If you see genitals, it's gonna be because it's funny. So No One's Gonna masturbate to that s*** to this show. That's a good kind of mission statement. Yeah, it's but if you think back to Smallville, they have like a one that rhymed, no flights no tights, right? It's a need something pithy that rhymes. So like, well, look at that, be like, no personal jerks, you know, like I said that they're like, is it? Someone said, Is there going to be boobs? And I was like, there's gonna be one but you see it twice? So, Technically, the plural is blooms has happened. Yes, yeah. But I will work. I will work on the tagline. You're right. I needed her to be a Punchy. A Punchy tagline. Thank you for that suggestion. You can use it for the go ahead. Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. It's, we haven't recorded anything. You know what, I forgot I do have listener questions who said, oh, I am gonna make me Trevor, do you have any questions for them? So here's some of those questions. Oh, let us see. Here know Tron juror, who's out in the UK? He wants to know was your hot dog guy. Cheese Beer, story rejected from drafts from Seasons, 10, 11, or 12. Now, do you know what story? He's referring I forgot about this. Do you know what's always referring idea? Okay, yeah, he told that I think at our I call and know something about hot cheese and it was spewing it all over the place. I just forgot it. Yeah, I went to a bar in Montreal, and I was like a cheese-filled hot dog, that sounds great and I bit into it and just squirted. Piping hot cheese, all over all. The bottles of booze. And that feels like more like a visual gag. And I am a little more dialogue, heavy of they could see Dairy, fumbling with a hot dog and having that happen to him. Maybe I could see Bugs, Bunny, do it. Yeah. So Dennis, I don't understand this questions. Maybe it's an inside joke or something. But he asks fold or scrunch oh that's about toileted paper, isn't it? Oh, maybe it is. Okay, that makes sense. See, I think if you scrunch toilet paper, you're an f****** psychopath. I am sorry. Those alienated 50% of your listeners here but like I first I heard of that was a campaign in England, okay? And I think like Charlie Brooker was doing a bit about a weekly web or something. And I at that point I had never even heard of anyone who scratched those like what do you talking about? Although, I will say, if we're talking to another paper today, everyone always says you can't have the toilet paper. They say it has to be overhead. Like it has to be going. Yeah. Over those people have never had cats because if you have it the other way, the cattle do it, a little flip around and around But if you have a the front way, the cattle, just pull it out and just went into the toilet paper, all over the house. All right, everybody responds to me say yeah, that's right, let us see here, Jeff. No, he wants to know if you will meet him for lunch at Saint sacrement. Tavern, on June 6th. I think he's coming up to see Mark forward in Toronto, and he's driving a taking the long way. It's coming up from Maine. Oh, and yeah, but anyway, that's his question. If you wanted to have beers with them, remind me closer to the date. Yeah, there you go. Jeff, ask him when he's visiting. Oh this is a form T-ara. You were on how I not pot Casting and listening to that. So she her and Dean are the host of that when he's visiting the West Coast, so we can actually meet him in person. I, you know, I wonderful people and as soon as I do get out to the West Coast, I will absolutely see them. So, I have a loose plan for a sort of drive through the Douglas Road, through the Bellingham and stuff like that, and if I can make it to Portland, I will absolutely. So I will let her know that you will be there. Okay, Jeff Again, the funniest senior, you have written. I mean you don't do that right? You don't do seen by seeing you kind of or do some. Yeah I mean there's some full episodes that are credited to you, right? Like yeah the we don't fight at weddings right? Yeah. It's Valentine's Day on X is 1. It's great. There's a few I do I would like some of them like you know what? I did the wrestling cold open. Hmm okay yeah and that was a lot of Fun. Yeah, the being able to have and also people like Alexa Bliss being such a fan of the show and like, like loving that she was in, that was pretty great. And yeah, just like, I mean farty Jeanette. He's such a stupid show, can I? But I love it to death. So and I can you think of one that you didn't write that? You really wish maybe you could have? Oh God. Yeah. I mean every time I am watching I always think of a bunch of them that I wish I could have like, I wish I thought Of that. It's sort of like when you hear a great song and you're like, oh I wish I could have written that. I wish I would have thought of that. Oh, you know, whatever it is frustrating because every time I watch them, I think that about like, at least two different scenes and show. And now I am on the spot and I can't think it on a plank I had. Yeah. Oh boy. I will have to, I will answer you on Twitter or something. Yeah. In the middle of the night, I will come up with it or send it to you. Yeah. Now I mean sure he isn't. It is jokey as Letterkenny. Is right, there's more of a story going on there. I mean there's still a lot of humor but I mean in terms of like Letterkenny is more like almost a collection of sketches and where, as short as he's more, you know narrative, right? Yeah. How do you find writing on that one? You know, being Letterkenny yet is it's almost entirely Standalone episodes? Yeah, you know, with these sort of, the threads aren't so much serialized I fired. As there are kinds of bit running gags. Yeah, So there's a rubric in place but I mean that's good and bad like one, you know what you're doing, you know, you go in and do it. You're not going in being with a blank page and then eight hours later still have a blank page. I want to blow your brains out against you kind of know what you're doing and you kind of prepare for it and you always have a few in the chamber. All ready to go but Shore Z, but that is also can be restrictive. I guess, you know where, as Shores, you can go in so many different directions and not really the set pieces and the set pieces are alike You know what, here's a good one that I wish I wrote like just the Oh, Canada scene, where he cries, you know the fact that Jared made Shores. The a crier is so funny to me. Yeah. And you know I love old cartoons and the thing about old cartoons is that if you take the sound off of them, they're still funny. Yeah. And that's my metric for that. And so, That has no dialogue in it and it sets up. This is one J and it's one of the biggest laughs I think on the show and there's absolutely zero dialogue. And it's just also one that I mean, I don't know about other viewers, but I saw it coming a mile away and it's still hilarious. Yeah. Right. Because it was set up in episode 1. So when an episode Fades on and you hear O Canada playing in the background? Yeah, you know when we see shores of he's going to be crying because that's the payoff so check, check out steers. It's going to happen, right? I didn't see it governed by see, I did. So maybe, maybe, I am I still found it funny but like the oh I hear O Canada. Wearing a hockey rink when we see short as a, he's going to be crying. I think that also knowing what's coming, doesn't make anything less funny? I mean, no, I am Norma Donald made an entire career out of getting twice the laughter. Sure. Because he would say a joke and you would know the punchline seed start laughing. And then you say and you're laughing like he would do that. One of his old jokes is been like Laughter's. The best medicine unless you're diabetic and then everyone started laughing, and then he'd say, like because of that insulin would be your best medicine and then like, Laughs Again, you know, so you get twice the laughter that way. So even when people see it coming, I think it still has a lot of value. So let us see here. Adrian asks, how does getting credit for an episode work? He assumes contributed jokes and lines, two more episodes. But like when you get full like, get top credit on an episode, how does that work? I think it's different for every show. Yeah, it's different in every contract kind of thing. So honestly, I always feel like I am washing my hands of these conversations sometimes because either, I don't know but it's like it's sometimes a surprise to me. Sure. Like I don't something will come out and it has been a long time since I worked on it because it has to go through so many things. And sometimes we're a couple years ahead on writing and so it will come out and I won't even know what my credit is going to be on it, until it does come out. And then I just get it out of to my FTP. Honestly. Yeah, so I am not entirely sure it's probably something that's production, and they agents maybe work out okay, but I am not as now that I am in the dark on I just like I am never sure. Sure. So Aaron says please tell him. I say hi and then give him an awkward fist. Bump. All right, there we go. There we go. Aaron had happened. It was very awkward. Yeah, he looked at me the whole time, like, very intense eye contact. Oh yeah. Yeah. Question. What do you find And gives you the most inspiration for writing? Do the best ideas come when you're sober Under the Influence, or certain time of day? Um, I think it was Jared? Who said this to me that Hemingway? Got it backwards. Okay. And like if it might have been Jarred it might have been someone else. So I don't, I am not sure. But I know that someone told me around that time that it's better to write sober and then have a little, maybe a, maybe a little drunk at it. Maybe a little tipsy edit. Okay. Because if you're a little, if you're like two cocktails deep and you're giggling, like that's great, you know. I think I tried that a few times. I am not sure stuff comes to me. The thing is, is that some days, you are feeling physically and emotionally great, and you have the whole day free and the whole place just yourself and you just accidentally heard your favorite song on the radio and you think you're going to write gold and then eight hours later, you have nothing. Right? And then some days, your got like a hangover and you only have like two hours before you have a doctor's appointment or something and like, but your bag off, 20 pages. And the key is to just know that those Days. Taika waititi has something about this where he says, like some days when you do nothing for eight hours and stare at final draft. That's also writing, right? And I think for me, it's like, you got to know that those days doesn't mean that you're out of juice because you're not out of juice, like it's a muscle and you work it and you're like, you know, you get better as it goes, those days, just happen. And so sometimes it will be right before bed and I will put something into my phone. That's a reminder of, you know, a Via a premise, a joke or something like that. And sometimes you do sit down and you get it all done. You just, you gotta relax right now. It's like one of those things is like in life, you like being joyful and being depressed or both temporary. And the only way you survive them both as knowing they're both temporary. So I do sometimes like to put on. I do a thing that this one, I know, Jared, Tommy putting on television but putting it on mute. Okay? And I found that putting on Think that I don't care about because otherwise you're just in a like a silent room, sure? Right. There's no information. Anything coming in or out and you're just bouncing off the walls. Yeah, so I will put on like how it's made you know, great show cock rate. She will love that. Love How It's Made. I can watch anytime I did for a while. Watch this show called ultimate Beastmaster because it was a show that Sylvester Stallone made, that's kind of like American Gladiators, right, right? Remember that one? It's Sports, which I like but it has Z it's just a bunch of Parkour people from around the world, and so I was but I wash it so many times while writing Letterkenny that my Netflix algorithm is supremely f*****-up. It's cute. It's all that stupid. It's just like, do you want to watch all these things about cheerleading? I don't like, no, definitely not. All right, I will bring it up. Sports great. Great. Segue to the next question from our buddy, Robbie. Robbie, he wants to know, should the Chiefs retain Juju sign, a free agent or pursue a wideout in the draft. Let us see, we got away. Out in the draft last year, and we got canaries, Tony still on the rookie deal and JuJu wants to stay. I mean, of course he does and but it's a bad free agent class four wide receivers, and so he's going to get offered some crazy, Cristian Kirk money, maybe unless he wants to win Super Bowls, consistently with the greatest football player on the planet and I you know, it's up to him. Does he want a ring Chase or does he want to batch it? I wouldn't blame him. For either, right? But there's not a lot of free agent guys on the market at as well. And I don't believe could area Stony can last as wide receiver one for more than three games, without getting injured, but we will see. There you go. Robbie Trevor is the real deal. This is what I Min love for football. Does this when you were in Kansas City? That's why I went to Kansas City. Okay? Yeah, that's why I went to Kansas City. But yeah, I have loved that team since I was 7 years, I mean, like, why the Chiefs I know growing up in Canada? We are not tied to a Yeah, a team so you can pick and choose. So why the chief every Canadian hat, who likes the NFL has an arbitrary reason for. They like the team and like, I do a lot of Bengals fans because they're like, I was a kid, I saw tiger stripes, I don't know. And it was really into Tony the Tiger, so my whole family or 49ers fans, but when I was seven, I think I got into football. And my brother, my older brother and I were firmly in that brother. Stage of don't copy me, right? So, my brother took me aside and gave me the like, don't copy me. And so, the first game I watched had Christian Okoye. Who is the? Nigerian Nightmare was his nickname, okay? And he was somehow, enormous and fast and it came from anterior to play football, right? And he had the just, the biggest smile on his face all the time. And as kind of sensitive nerdy kid, who had like a fanny pack full of like pictures of cats, he cut out a cat, fancy magazine, all them all the time. That guy spoke to me. So I became a fan of that team, right then and there which is great because then finally after All the snake-bitten seasons and can City beating the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl. I can't tell you the satisfaction. Yes, this is gone into weird places. Yeah, it has. And that's all right. Okay. That's all right. I think people might have been expecting it. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. All right, well, thank you so much now. We must go and party with Dole. Oh yeah, let us do it. Let us do it. A Hundred percent. Thanks for having me on, thank you. Yeah, and the song, I am playing a soft with tonight is another of Trevor's bands. Also, on the Letterkenny soundtrack. It's called backstage underage by the good news on. That's all we have for this episode. Don't forget to give our sponsor diabolical coffee. 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