TPS162: An Interview With Drew MacLeod
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The gang at The Produce Stand are joined by Drew MacLeod, editor on Letterkenny and Shoresy.
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I am out your hosting joining me in the room is always lovely tenure and online. We don't have squirrely mad. Unfortunately, he's got the, he had the kids over, and he's busy with family stuff, but we do have the very prompt Victor and joining us this week, he's an award nominated picture editor, he's worked on such shows as history of sitcom explaining things to my grandfather, Rush are 40 live, love it or listed vacation homes. But he's here tonight to talk to us about his work on both, Letterkenny and Shore. Z. Please join me in making some noise for Drew MacLeod wondrous. Oh my gourd, I regret nothing, welcome to the produced. Andrew, how are you guys? Thank you for having me. This is awesome. All right, we are well, thank you for joining us. I am going to start off right off the top to kind of talk about how and why we got you on the podcast. I mean, normally I would go, I would look cast members or crew members on IMDb and maybe try to find who their agents are and try to connect that way or online, like, through social media. But with you, I was at a work meeting of all places. And one of my co-workers said, oh you do Letterkenny podcast, I went to film school with somebody who edits on that show. I am like, what really can you connect us? And he said, I could try. I guess you guys hadn't seen each other. Probably since school. But yeah. So here you are. Our common friend, Matt, Matt, Reveille this up and here you are on the show. So, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you again, thank you for having me. I mean, small world indeed, right? Yeah, funny. How you guys didn't cross paths about that earlier? It's very cool. I feel like he may have mentioned it in passing when we first started. The podcast. But now that we have you know, got all these interviews under our belt, and we have had Billy, but Tree on a couple of times, it never really occurred to us to go behind the scenes and get like, like, we have had Danny Allison. She's like the art director, right? And Billy's been on a couple of times Director of Photography. So don't know maybe we can't we should get like because a lot of what happens and you're going to bring, you're going to tell us about it. A lot of what makes Letterkenny, Aunt, Rosie, great happens behind the scenes. So we're happy to join lace and plywood is Little bit kind of on both sides. Oh yeah, Bruce. Well yeah, actually a couple of guys. Right plywood was on both sides but also Trudeau Bradley Trudeau works, the crude. Yeah, Max bouffard worked to keep the crew as well. Yeah, bunch of them. Kind of go on both sides of the camera. Have you ever Danny as well? Darian. Yeah, that's right. Kids as well as a lot of multi-purpose. A lot of multi multipurpose cast in there, right? Have you ever appeared in front of the camera on the shows, man, I wish I have been asking. D. So for that for a long time? Yeah pretty enough. I don't think oh well I don't know you seem pretty got plenty pretty good for me here but I don't think it's a podcast. You should get dressed me some one of those bar brawls. Yeah, exactly. There you go. Yeah, we can do stunts. I am multi-purpose editor. Yeah, exactly. So we're going to start from the beginning and work our way to the Show's. First of all, where are you speaking to us from? I am speaking to you from Toronto, Ontario Canada, very nice. Won't say what part of like East and West End. You stand, watch downtown, so self. Wow. Yeah. Just sort of down by the water. Exactly. I sort of look out onto the tip. Top Taylor building, if you know, nice, yes, whereabouts, that is just sort of Lake Shore Boulevard. They're very cool. Is that Toronto where you're from originally? Yep, like I said, born and raised I grew up in Scarborough. Okay, so instead of right around the corner, maybe 20 minutes from here but hop, skip and a jump and just sort of not during rush hour around not Still, no, not at all. Yeah, along skip and a jump, but yeah, been here my entire life. I love it. Here I will say intra and downtown Toronto nothing is 20 minutes away. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Hence, why I love working at home so much as of late, especially yeah. So I mean, how do you get into editing for TV? Like, where did you start? Where did your love for it start? You know, I since I was a kid, you know, I sort of picked up editing when I was 10 11 years old just sort of as a hobby, you know, Windows Movie Maker kind of thing, throwing some random Clips together here and there how many hobbies really starts and I just kind of stuck with it, you know, I enjoy it obviously and I sort of like my career professionally sort of started out much like Billy I heard when you guys were interviewing and in commercials. Okay I also sort of started in commercials with Commercial post house, as an assistant editor and sort of got my hands dirty there. And I was there for a good chunk, of maybe five, six years out of school Humber College. Right? Where we have that connection with Matt. Yeah. And you know, I have always loved movies and TV just the medium of it, right? I enjoy commercials too. But you know, like Billy was saying I didn't love it. Wasn't in love with that. I wasn't in love with commercials and that industry. So I sort of took the leap when I could you mentioned earlier that, Love It or List It. Vacation homes was sort of my in between my, my sort of link to get me there. Sure thing. Yeah, and yeah, funny, funny story, not to go too long on this election, but the first thing I applied to when I had joined the television Union, And I wanted to sort of get in there and get on a job was Letterkenny. Wow, right away. Fantastic right away, just a stroke of complete luck. I still can't believe. I got to do it because I had joined the union dgc, which is Directors Guild of Canada, which a lot of us are under and I just got in that week, and they send out what's called sort of hot list. Which has, you know, all the Productions that are sort of sure. Going to camera or wrapping up, blah, blah. So, I saw Letterkenny on there. And at the time, I was already a huge fan of the show of the shorts on YouTube. Well, yeah, they had already had seasoned one under their belt. Oh, okay. Okay, so you started. Yeah, I had seen season 1, but I had also seen the, the skits, you're referring to, right? And just I thought it was genius. So I said, oh, what the heck? I shot the post supervisor an email and lo and behold they were looking. For somebody. So we're you still in school, or we just come out of school and that happened. No. I at that time. I had been out of school for about six years. Again, I was awoken advertising or, you know, the commercial right now actually. Yeah, so I had left. The commercial world was sort of working outside that world in reality for maybe about a year and then this came along and again just a complete Stroke of Luck because I knew it was an even a hot commodity back then. Let us talk about some of your credits. I mean the first one here looks like it may have been a school project that der candidate short film. Yeah. Yeah. So that was a short film. That was a part of sort of our, I guess you call it sort of like a thesis project right Humber College, where we had to put together a short film, believe it or not, I was editing that. Okay? And yeah, it looked great. I mean, it was it, did you? It looks like it was shot in Germany, but where did you actually shoot it was shot here Chaka in Oshawa? La Tasha Austria, Germany? What's the difference? Right, right. They got a lot of German looking architecture in Oshawa, I guess. Okay. That was an interesting that was a really interesting intro. Both to like scripted work, right? Of that scale. But also to cut something in a different language was a really I was going to say yeah. Interesting exercises. Well that was yeah, very cool. I imagine I am you probably had to sit down with the director or somebody at least. Who knows the language? Intimately, in order to be able to cut it, right? Because I know at work, like I do a lot of podcasting for work, and the most frequent question I asked, is, can we do any french podcasts because of Quebec, right? And I am like, unless somebody sitting with me to edit, you know, my grade 9 French isn't going to cut it, right? So how did that work? It just so happened that. Well, obviously the cast many of the cast. All of the cast members were pretty fluent in the language. And one of them, especially who played one of the leads were kind enough to sort of do exactly what you just said, sort of hold our hands along the way, we would send them cuts, and they would see the say, oh, this sentence doesn't make sense, but it was, it was pretty close to, you know, what was on the script. So right, we felt pretty confident that what was going into the edit was at the very least correct. Then we had to choose the right tank, so it was, it was a very cool exercise for sure. But I mean there's a difference between editing and like you don't want it, you don't Cut right at the end of a line. There's sometimes you gotta wait. You have to feel it out, right? And if, but if you don't know language, it's pretty hard to feel that part of it out, I would imagine I agree. Yeah, I think generally I mean in the case of that short, we knew the beats that we needed to hit especially closer to the end when we were getting close to lock. I worked with the amazing director writer who is still creating amazing things, Yosef Brockie, and He was so great along the whole way with just, you know, sort of guiding me but also, you know, as an editor I think you sort of get a grasp of how things should timeout or right, how things should feel, especially in more of a dramatic piece, like something like that. I guess I should have said off the top of their candidate. It's a short film set in Nazi Germany, black and white. I mean, it's beautifully shot. Well done. So I am guessing that everyone on the crew were they were all students, right? Working on this correct. Yeah, yeah. And you can specifically watch the whole short film on your website. Correct. Like that's where I saw it. So yeah. Yeah it's about 15. 16 minutes. Yeah, it's not very long but yeah, a nice like really well shot. So I you know, anyone wants to check that out. What we're talking about right now that would be the one looks like the next thing you worked on explaining things to my grandfather. What's that about? This was a fun little web series that I sort of got tied up in. In with Ethan, Cole and Josh Schultz years ago now, and this was sort of web series that originally started, much, like Letterkenny started to live on YouTube, right? And it was, it was sort of web series with Ethan, who is the lead, but also the director writer. He would sit on a couch with his grandfather, and they would go through sort of topics of today. And you would see the contrast between the generation of then versus now dealing with stuff like Tinder. And right, you know, I will kinds of, you know, slang that we were using. So it was kind of fun sort of I guess mirror image of this. This young man sitting with his grandfather comparing stories. This actually got turned into a CBC gem series called my 90 year old roommate. Oh, okay. I think I have heard of that. How long did I 14? I might have to check that out. I think they had a few seasons to Three Seasons. At least. I know they were open 20 episodes of it. They did really well. I didn't end up working. On that. But it was sort of born from this, this series that we did. Yeah. So it kind of reminds while back there. Those bit of a trend where they were taking certain kind of social media accounts and turning them into TV shows. I think wasn't no one called some stuff. My dad says that started out as a Twitter account and then ended up being kind of, they tried to make a sitcom out of it or something like that. I have a vague recollection might have been yeah. Anyway, so that's kind of what that sounds like. But yeah, it sounds interesting up to check that out. We A lot of wells we have a few listeners who are huge, huge rush fans. So the next project I want to talk about, Rush are 40 live. Is that the one in South America where they're like playing to like 100,000 people or whatever? Some ridiculous like that very well might is might have been because this was sort of like a this is when I was working in commercials I was as an assistant editor on this but what a great experience it was This was their final tour. We are 42 or was one of their final tours. I know it was a big one, so I wouldn't be surprised what you just said is true, but this was mainly we cut sort of concert DVD of their show. Two shows in Toronto in ACC or Scotiabank the Scotiabank Arena. Okay. CeCe at the time. Yeah. But it was a really cool experience. We got to go to the show and everything and okay running around the show with backstage passes. It was a really Experience. Thanks. Yeah, our buddy Adrienne. Probably love to see if he hasn't seen it already. I am sure he has. He's a yeah, massive Rush fan, so I am sorry. Go ahead. What was that one there? Like your they're shooting the foot, you're involved in shooting the footage. So are you kind of editing live like are you know, switching cameras live or are you getting all this footage later from, however, many cameras and, and cutting it? Then I remember because we were shooting on about 24 25 Five cameras night all going at the same time, including GoPros and all kinds of cranes. It was quite an operation and But to answer your question, no, none of it was edited on the fly, but we were logging all of that material. So you have to imagine it was about a three-hour concert with Chimes. 25 cameras. It was a lot of stuff. Wow, how you feel put that on the hard drive? Wow, a very big one. And in fact, we had, I remember, we had three, they were, I think they were 16 terabyte hard, Drives all with footage respectively on three of them. And there were three just in case, you know, one went down right. And by the end of the project I remember two of the three drives had gone down so oh wow, very close to losing the entire thing. It was very nerve-racking, but imagine only his good looks very before. So two questions before you started working on a project where you were Rush fan, Not really okay after you start, after you finish the project where you are Rush fan slightly. Okay. Alright, so yeah, yeah, I feel like when you're inundated with it for about a month, I think you all could have gone either way. It could have been like a huge fan going in and then so sick and tired of Rush by the end of it or, yeah, you know. Yeah, maybe a couple songs here. There, I won't mention which ones but it was. Yeah, it was good. They're good people to I mean getting in the room with us in the editing room and it was a very easy, he's such a cool guy and it was a great experience, just from start to finish on that. Very cool. Yeah, I have a quick. I have a quick Rush. Yes, Cory. Yeah, yeah. So we went to the same school as well. We, I went to the same high school as Getty and Alex, and they came by the school. When I was I think it was in 11th grade and Alex taught me how to play Closer to the heart. What really? Yes. And he said and you know I was always sitting in this chair by the music room during lunch, playing my guitar with my friend, and he said, hey this we did the same thing we hung our here with our long hair and it's the same thing, you guys are doing. So it was really, really, really cool. And even though it was a very small sample, they were very cool dudes night and are still very cool dudes, I am sure? Yeah, amazing. All right, well, this one here, I think 10, you will be a little more interested in Love It or List It vacations homes, you have added five episodes of that. But that's, I mean, HGTV is definitely a channel that's on a lot in our house. So well, is it I know that's kind of more of the commercial kind of work that you would do. But you know, how was that? That again, like that, that was sort of my segue into scripted. That was, I wanted to, I wanted to find something that wasn't commercial work but it was TV work and right. I landed at the production company's big co-productions, and I was on that for just a season of vacation homes and that was An amazing experience just in the fact to see how a reality TV shows put together in the edit. Quote-unquote are y'all Ready, TV show? Right reality exactly quote on quote, it's an astounding amount of work that the editors need to do. I can imagine reality now because I am sure there's a lot of footage that's just people working or something and you got to kind of find the interesting stuff, right? Hey, do you choose the music that goes into these because the music is such a big part of keeping the pace? It's the editing, but the music as well. Well, and so like what role kind of do you play in that? Because that's, it can't just cut music. It has to all work. Yeah, yeah. And there is a lot of cutting of Music especially in those instances with the, with the axe that you would have. I remember there's a lot of cutting music, but we would get a giant batch of, you know, stock music that right use and sort of toss it into the episode there. And cut, cut, cut and get it down. There were some amazing editors that worked on that show. And just seeing it firsthand happened from start to finish was a really cool experience, just to sort of be watching and seeing that happen like seeing something like that. Would you ever want to work on something like Survivor where I mean, I can't imagine how much footage you have to wait through on a show like that. Yeah, no II mean II have to admit since day one? I am still a huge Survivor fan. Oh yeah. As a fan, I would love to work on it. But as an editor knowing the Uncle especially like what you need to do for it. I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. I mean I know some of the guys who work on the Letterkenny Cat cast or at least Bradley. Any Bradley Trudeau's worked on Big Brother Canada? Do you ever talk to him and geek out and say what's that like or? No, I haven't had a chance to. Yeah, it's just being amount of footage. The amount of, I know it does so much with big brother. I mean, how many cameras are in that house, like dozens of cameras and each? Shooting like 24 hours a day. I guess. I mean, that's how do you kill myself after and that's the difference when it comes to the edit of a reality show and or a documentary is that in many times, the edit determines the story of write the episode Show versus, you know, a scripted show like, Letterkenny where it's, it's right there in front of you, I like that work, I like that work. I like to sort of paint by A right idea. You know, here's your outline. Here's what we need to hit and let us, and then we will work from that. I very much enjoy working off a script in the in that regard what makes sense, especially the kinds of scripts that you get with a lot of (Kenny). One last one before we get on to the fun and the paid stuff history of the sitcom what tell us a bit about that? What was that about? That was a great. Awesome. Doc series that I worked on two years ago now and One and that was with CNN and it was cream Productions was production company that did it, and it was exactly what it's called. Is history of the sitcom from, you know, the very first sitcoms I Love Lucy from the black-and-white coming all the way up to today. With, You Know, How I Met Your Mother, right? That is definitely not a current but that's the what I came up with right now. I have been in and I have been in a cave for a few years, it's all good. But you know what? And it was a really cool. Johnny Miller directed the series and wow to work with a guy like that, who is a sort of headed the whole operation and from episode 1 to 8, we sort of see a chronological order of sitcoms and how they came to be right up until today. But each episode is sort of themed, right? In terms of right, yeah, what the world was dealing with around then oh yeah. That's Just what can we find that, is that on Netflix or something? Or, you know, I do know that it, I think it's still might are occasionally on CNN. It aired on the CNN channel. What it originally aired? But sounds interesting. Sure, there's a way to find it somewhere. It's a really great series. And yeah, I learned a ton from it. Well, I can imagine even just going through that archival footage and how do you get? I mean, it would have been from the different networks, right? So you have to get like the rights for all of that and I must and fun. Yeah, luckily that doesn't fall. To write posting, which I very quickly. Realised, you actually have a totally separate entity which is like a research team that works alongside you and they're constantly not only reaching out and getting this archival material but getting the rights to use it. And as you can imagine that the amount of material that you're bringing in when you're dealing with the entirety of sitcom television it is totally will. Yeah. It was insane but it must have been a lot of fun to see some of that old really old. Stuff come to life tunnel. Yeah, a ton of old archival stuff. I think the interviews themselves, I found myself just sitting at the desk. They the kind of talent that they got to come into these rooms and tell all these industry secrets and a lot of it. Unfortunately, as normally is left on The Cutting Room, floor pressure is in his face for it or just isn't appropriate for the episode or whatever and I don't imagine you here. Yeah, I sometimes imagine being challenging even Then just upsampling it 24K like when you have got like gold black and white, you know, small standard definition footage or even worse, what was that? Did you have to do everything? Everything is coming from Left, Right? And Center, there's so many different sources of material coming pictures music and video. So, I mean, it's sort of does fall on the post team in the offline stage. But, luckily, when we get to finishing, which is essentially, when we package For the network, a lot of that work is, is sort of touched up and made to look pretty. So, we kind of find ourself in a really nice sweet spot with the edits because we can send out a gotten ugly product but it certainly Feels Like An Unfinished product and then when we see it are, it's like wow, right? Wow, do you ever see stuff once it goes to air? Do you see stuff and think or do you like watching what you have ? What you worked on or do you question? Oh, I should have done. This or, Oh, I thought I had this in their way. You enjoy watching TV, as you said it, made it to The Cutting Room floor and you're going, Oh, I thought I, we had that in there. Like, do you sometimes mistaken times? Yeah, sometimes I do find it, a little difficult time. Of course, I am very hard on myself. Especially, when I am watching my own stuff, I mean, by the time, I am done, cutting an episode of Letterkenny. You know, I have seen the episode 20, 30 40 times, I don't find it funny anymore. At that point is, I have just seen it too much. Yeah, but then when I sort of let it All for 3-4 months and then it comes out on Christmas Day. I we sort of have a routine much like you guys do. I am sure on Christmas day will just binge the whole season and watch it right through and that's always a lot of fun. Do you feel like I can enjoy it? Yeah. Yeah. When you watch something, are you watching it as an edit? Are you watching it to enjoy it or like what do you look for while you're watching anything both its idiot? Like he's it is very hard. Both me and my wife because she works in the industry as well. We very often find ourselves pausing and either she picks apart something to do with the makeup. I don't know really, or I do something to do with the edit, and we consecutively piss each other off because it's like, yes, I saw that. I saw that. Yes, it's good. But an interesting thing I heard and I can speak to this to Anna Kendrick was just recently on hot ones. I know it's a little random, but she said something that Very much agree with. And she said, she's at this point now where, you know, she can watch a movie, and she feels like she's picking it apart. Technically, because she knows what's happening behind the camera. What's happening behind the scenes, but she finds when she watches something really good, you kind of forget about that, you know, you kind of for any kind of goes away and then you almost forget that you're watching a movie or watching a TV show and that's sort of how I feel. There's been a handful of movies He's and TV shows were in the past. I have just actually watch them, and then, the credits roll on, I am like, oh my God. Okay, name, something, it was gonna ask you so name, some movies or TV shows where you're like. Whoa, that was those amazing one that I can recently think of is Dune, okay? When I went to see Dune in the theaters, I was gobsmacked by, you know, I was a fan of the books going into it, but just the way it was presented and everything about it. Look Better, Call Saul I have watched recently. I really, really enjoyed that. I just we just watched banshees of an issue, Sharon. Oh, I love that picture nominates. Yeah. Oh my God. I was Beauty know, it's yeah, weird. So gorgeous one-of-a-kind movie and I kind of fell into that trap to where I just watched it and this, and then it's over. It's like, oh, that's it. That's it, you know. So every now and then, I can actually find myself enjoying something. But I think at least when it comes to the editing, if you're not noticing and edit happen, whether you work as an editor or not, if you're not sort of, if nothing is jarring, it's working. Yeah, that's how I feel. What's your biggest pet? Peeve that you have seen? That is like it just irks you beyond. Well, I notice, when we're, when you're seeing a conversation happen, between two people, usually, when you have the reverse angle and somebody's talking and You have an off-screen line where you don't have the person on. I almost will always catch that the person is not actually speaking in their reverse angle because that's where my eyes go to. I see I don't know why it's a weird thing. So like if somebody's having a conversation in the camera switches to the back of the either, but they're not saying the lines but the person off-screen is but you can see their mouth not moving or it's not in sync with the lines. Yeah that's a little pet peeve but I also understand that it needs to happen, you know? I know it gets I am lot of it gets away often but it's just something that I noticed, that's one thing. Yeah, three to build on that. The pet peeve thing. What about continuity blunders either your own or others big time? I mean, I am a huge stickler for it on Letterkenny to, but sometimes you just gotta let it go and, you know, like how many, how many corpses shots have you had to like really finely cut in order to you know? Cut away from oh my good. Oh my goodness, yeah, it's unbelievable. Yeah, speaking of that Alexander seen from influenzas, that's an example right there, you know? Yeah, actually summer heat whenever he's in a scene, it's bad news for the rest of the, I think somebody on the podcast made the point that because when I saw squirrely Dan, makes a face that I thought was just him acting. But somebody made the point that it all looked like he was about to break, but it just, it worked. It's his beer can kind of hide it. His face. I did. I did hear that. I did. I know what you're talking? Yeah, I did hear that on the, on the podcast. When you mention that, I, I am in the camp that I think he was laughing as Dan, okay? And that's okay, because I have seen Kate rev laugh and scenes before, right? And that's the only reason I think that. But, you know, you know, but there's got to be scenes. Like, I mean, I can't think of any specific ones right now, but we're somebody breaks, but it worked in the scene so you just left it in, right? Yeah. Yeah, we I mean we can pull some tricks you know where we can if we really love it or Jared falls in love with it, we can do a split screen right down the middle and sort of cut the scene in half if we're if it's really too so. Oh wow. There's some magic. There's some magic that we have done in the past to make things work when they necessarily have to have a pretty static camera scene for that to work though, right? Or else. It's yeah, you'd be surprised. Oh, you'd be surprised what we can get. Way with but it certainly makes things easier, and we do get a lot of that in Letterkenny as, you know. Yeah, so we're pretty lucky on that front. All right. Well, let us I mean we're talking about Letterkenny now. So you say, you know, you worked for a few years out of school and then you see this come down the pike for a show called Letterkenny what you already knew because it was, it one or two seasons already been out. I feel I felt like season one and two might have been shot together. Know, or did you work into? No one was shot separate, but I, To was very close behind it. Alright, to be the season that I applied to and ended up working on right up until today. And I was sort of, I was brought on as an assistant editor, right? And again, total Stroke of Luck. I didn't truly do't think I would be able to get this show and this is before I think we're Letterkenny really started picking up popularity. This was may be on the cusp of doing that. So, it was really cool to not only get onto a show in scripted television like I wanted to so quickly. Yeah, but to get on a show that I was already a fan of and still am today. Honestly, I am a huge fan of the show, so I feel very lucky. I feel very gifted to be able to work on something like this. Yeah. Very cool. Absolutely. So let us talk about how does it work? What's the timing of it? Do you get dailies or is does your work start only after like the Scene is shot and there, and they have wrapped up in Sudbury, and then you get all of the footage at once. Is that how that works? No week, we work essentially in tandem, okay, production. So they shoot day one. The next day, we are getting that days. Dailies in the morning, okay, holding them in, and we're cutting right away. So by the time they're wrapping up with the shoot, we're getting pretty close to having finished episodes. Well ready to show. There's maybe a week or so buffer in there. Once they have finished shooting, and then we sort of get it ready for Jacob. Who's the first set of eyes on it, right? So are you up in Sudbury when all this is happening? Or are you working from home and it all, It's All Digital? Now, they just send it to you all digital. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Since covid hit, we were working out of an office in Toronto originally, which, you know, it's bittersweet. It was nice to be in an office and collaborate of First with, with Kyle, the other editor on the show. And, and it was just, it was, it was nice to sort of bounce ideas off each other. We still very much do that, but it's just, you know, not quite as successful, but since covid, we have been at home. So, that's interesting. So, the first cut has no input from tyranny or key. So, you're just following the script, you're kind of cutting it the way you think they want it. Basically, and then, and then you said and then, Jake Jacob comes in, and he's got He's the one with the first set of eyes on it, he is the first set of eyes on. Okay, so Jacob gets the first. Look, he sort of does his pass on it and then it's getting pretty close to go to Jared after that. And that's where the brunt of the work is happening. Oh really all the fine-tuning and stuff, happily jerk. Yeah, he is a mean. I am sure you have heard this from multiple crew on this show, but Jared knows what he's looking for on this show. And that is A good thing for us because there's no question once it gets to him, what he wants, and what he doesn't want, there's no in-between. So it's a good thing right now. We have been up to Sudbury, and we have seen like the sets and stuff and The Farmhouse. I imagine they shoot everything they shoot out of sequence. I am thinking, right? They shoot all of the farm house stuff for at one time, and then they shoot all of the so are you working on what like you're working on multiple episodes then as you're getting them like each day? You might be getting multiple scenes from different episodes from The Farmhouse, let us say, and now and you'd have to know we're like each episode like, which episode. They're in right? Exactly. Exactly. So, typically will be working with three or four episodes respectively at a time, and yeah, we're just getting a sort of jumble of scenes based on what they shot the day before, there could be some days when I don't get any material and the other editor does or vice versa. You just get absolutely crapped on with a ton of footage that And it's going to be a busy day as it. Did you get it already kind of marked up saying? I think this is the right take. This is right. Take, are you making some of those calls to I would say both the script supervisor does a really great job of giving us what's called Circle takes so these, and they're really good with giving us comments that are on set either from Jacob or Jared? You know it will sort of be noted next to the tank right? Love this and then sort of captioned with Jacob said this on the day so that's usually a good Mark to sort of start from right. But then you know we still look through all the material and sort of that's the nice thing about But our first cut that does end up going to Jacob. Is that's sort of our first crack of the bat before. Mmm, you know, we start noting these things. So right. And what about the soundtrack is that pre-scripted as well? There's that part of the editing process most. So like for montages fight scenes, in most cases, the tracks are scripted in those in that respect. But when it comes to, you know, Mo Dean's, background music. We're usually placing those. And we have a giant batch of music that we would sort of toss in his background and you often know they will get swapped out as we go. If Jared wants something else in there or you know? Well, he picks the music, right? So, how does he come Tuesday? All right, here's the song, I want for this episode for the Montage. Like, you know, I had a time. Yeah. Usually, they're right in the script. So from day one, we already know what's going to go in. In that place. And again, you know, sometimes it changes due to, you know, licensing issues or anything like that, if it's not working, you know, but almost always, especially when it comes to fight scenes and or montages that is in the script that we're reading weeks prior to shoot. So yeah, the slow-motion ones where the timing and the music are just so spot-on for How the beat works and how the camera is, it's just everything is so time perfectly. I can't imagine doing that without the music. Yeah, yeah, and that's it, right? I mean, I wish I could take credit for a lot of those beats that you're speaking about, but again it's the genius of Mr. Key so that comes through in the scripts because to your point, in a lot of these cases where we do have those very specific Points. We got a hit. It's like a blueprint in most cases in the script. It's 18 seconds. This is where we need to see this 25 seconds. This is where we need to see this. So what you end up seeing in the episode is very, very close to what we started with in though, in those cases, if it's the same song in that episode, of course, is it trickier to work in those slow-motion scenes than the normal Pace. Um because They seem to love doing those like real slow downs, especially where the fight was in the bar, you will have to help me with the episode name and Shout, which fight wish for her. I know right? Where he meets their the Fricks, and he meets the for the first time at. Thank you. There you go. The I should be helping Marie Fred. Bossa Nova song that Victor loves so much. The French Bossa Nova song at least Hicks. That's yeah, that's the name of the episode. We meet Marie Fred for the first time. Yeah, f***** do that time. And that was a finale right now that whole seven minutes of when you saw the script going, what the f*** you want to play the entire song? Like, yeah, you were you like, what is he thinking? Or? Well, I didn't and I didn't actually work on that while we, but I do know. I remember because we were still in an office. Yes. And that episode is being worked on and Kyle. Martin the episode, the editor that worked on that. I remember. Yeah, it's a little scary. When you see, oh my God, we're using the full song. Here is this and it's not a short song. It's a lot of short song is this? Is this going to run too long? Like how is this going? But it's still captured your attention, your full attention. Like the whole is one of my it's one of my favorite Montage from the other Kenny. It's absolutely one of the better ones, a great way to end the season. And I remember that very well. The colors are so vibrant, it's very, very pretty, but talk about the colors for a sec because I mean, Letterkenny, especially we will get talk about shortly after, but Letterkenny had, a very has a very Vivid color palette, right? Very kind of bright greens and reds and stuff a few times. Now that we have interviewed Billy, he mentions during the coloring process, or I forget what, he, how he what he calls it but there's a, I guess a part of a process. Are you recall her the film or touch it up or what exactly is that correct? So once the edits are locked there are signed off on this is right through Bell. Everybody's happy. Oh wow. Our job is essentially done as editors we send out an uncolored unfinished essentially episode where then will go through color, okay? Well they will do a color pass on it and that's where Billy really gets in there especially, and he most part sits in on these color sessions, and we will work with the colorist to get that vibrant look that you're talking about right crazy and then it will go from there to be effects, and then we will mix it will get the all the extra lines and all the, you know, make it sound pretty. Okay. So the ADR and all that stuff. That happens after the edit as well. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever work with Billy or is it? He's not directly. I had the privilege of meeting him. Finally, at a, at a wrap party. Yeah. So that was really nice to finally meet him face-to-face. And finally, see the guy who sends you all the amazing-looking footage. Exactly. Exactly. It was, it was great finally, getting to meet him and talk to him. Yeah, he's done such a phenomenal job. With both this show and shorter Z, it's great, it's great. And like you said, when that's another thing that gets me excited about the episodes when they come out is I get to see them all vibrant and pretty because I don't, you know, I review them before they go out, but I don't really get to see them on a big screen until you guys do. So that's, it's exciting for me too. That's cool. Yeah, it's mind-boggling how many goes into it. Like you at the commoner just like throws the TV on and watches an episode, right? And it's like you have no idea all of the intricate. Yeah, it's just this industry right now. Talking to somebody about that the other day and it's like, it takes an entire Army, you know, a couple hundred people just to put something like this together. And, and wow, yeah, yeah. You know, when every department is firing on all cylinders, when you see something and at least that's how I think, you know, as somebody that works in the industry we you sort of feel it. Like you sort of know. Wow, everybody here was just doing Tip-Top work and it's a good feeling. It's cool to see amazing. Yeah. Different. Well, first of all. So do you spend a lot of time in an editing boot Bay with Jacob or Jared or is it a lot of this done online lat? Almost majority of it's done remotely. Yeah so we will send our edits out and fairly quickly, we will get some notes back address them and then it just becomes back and forth as quickly as we can get it done. Usually takes about a month and a half to work with them, give or take on the episodes. Our signed off on. But yeah, it's almost primarily done through. Just good old, Microsoft Word, send some notes through and right. Send it back. It's, it's a nice way to work for me, right? Yes. You know, unlike a live session, like you mentioned. It's the pressure sort of taken off, and I can sort of sit with the episode and sure play around with a few things where sometimes in a session, you don't get that luxury, right? So it's a little, it's nice this way. Oh, that's the other thing on it. So it's a Very tightly scripted show and you say you edit this, you know, these episodes according to the script you ever get dailies, where maybe they did something on the day that wasn't in the script, but they loved it. So they kept it and you're looking at going where did this come from? And where do I put this in? You know what I mean? Like does, it often happens or do they really stick to that script? Um I would say they stick to the script pretty closely, but they're definitely have been moments. The past where something, whether it be intentional or on by accident, where somebody does something in the scene and you can see Jared eyes perk up if he's on camera. But there's been a couple of occasions where it's like, I love that. Please do that again. And you know if I, if I hear that happening or if it's noted to me of course I am going to put it in because there's so many in I think, in TV in general sure, especially with comedy television, there's so many happy accidents that happen. Especially if you're working with really Funny. People like Mark forward like Kate Trevor? Like, yeah, well, all of them. They're all really funny. So they exactly like I don't believe the coach weasel laughs that's sort of was born right last few seasons. Yeah I don't think initially when he was supposed to laugh in the script that he was supposed to laugh like that, right? But he did that and then now it's coaches weasel laugh in the script so it's very clear what Jared's looking for ya in that. In that regard. But it's cool. It's cool because, you know, he sort of took it and made it his own. That's just a very small example of but there's definitely been moments, where something funny happens and it's like, oh, we might be onto something here. So let us try that again, or even like even if it's a little moment that I see, I was just about to ask you, have you ever has it ever gone the other way where he's like, you see something? And you go to Jacob and Jared and say, Look at this, like this is really funny, or this is a really cool moment. What do you think of keeping that sinner? Something you ever do that? Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah. And you know, sometimes rightfully, so they get shot down but I figure, it's worth a look. It's funny to me at the time. Let us try and keep it in and maybe it makes it three four rounds into the edit and then, you know, somebody grows tired of it and it's like, oh, we almost got it to the end. But oh, so many, so many funny moments, especially with the dicks right? I bet yeah especially there's a handful of characters that for me as an editor when those dailies come in and I see who's in that scene, I get giddy because I know there's going to be something very special in these scenes and something probably Off Script is going to happen and it's going to be beautiful, so we will get to. I mean some of our listener questions talk about those moments. We will get to those in a second but just really quickly with Shore Z. I mean, I have Question of what while you're on the blooper reel? Do you? Because you must see it, you see everything right? You see with when people crack and when people miss their line or if that ever happens, do you guys have like a blooper reel started so that we can like, yeah, future Letterkenny like fans 10 years. Are you talking about the season that just came out all of them? Well, there's a few already on YouTube live on you. Yeah, I never get on the internet's very often. Yeah, you have it if you haven't Seen them, you're in for a treat. Yeah, pass or five seasons have had blooper reels, put together and that's usually sort of make-work project for us when we're sort of sitting waiting for notes from the network at the end of the sort of the end of the line. That's yeah. So if something we take under our wing because we like you said we have seen all the footage, so we have a good idea and usually when we catch good, bloopers will save them, and we will put them aside. And it's like, we're going to need these later. You have got AB in Jared. Let Jared loves that process to. Oh yeah. Okay good. When we finish up with this season, we should just start reviewing the blooper reels. Oh yeah. Before Shores you to comes out? I love it. It's a great idea. I think as long as I, hopefully, there's one for each season because I have seen a few, but I feel like those were like the earlier seasons. And there aren't either many from the later season, but we will have to check that out. Yeah, yeah, they're lots of fun Shore Z. I mean, it's a different. Tone are you Givin kind of Right direction or instruction or what, you know, how does how be Shore? Z different from Letterkenny in terms of editing? Well, that was the beautiful thing about jumping into Shores. It was really exciting for all of us, but for me especially is that it was, you know, while it's still lived in the Letterkenny versus I like to say, it's the you very much it very much. Yes. It very many lives as its own separate entity, right? So we were it was kind of it was a cool opportunity to sort of establish something different, but still in the same. To realm as and Letterkenny, right? You know, so that was a cool opportunity. We had just starting something new and fresh I know Billy. I don't know if you mention that, but that was something that we chatted about was that he found it really awesome too because the look like you said a little more gritty, a little more dark and a little, you know, la Luz. Yeah. One Blues. Yeah. A lot more blue lot, more ice rink, you know? Yeah. So that was a really cool opportunity to sort of settle, look for something and make it sort of. Unique to its theme. So that was, that was a, yeah, that was a really cool thing. And, and to your, to your original question. Yeah, we were able to sort of change the pacing up a little bit, so, it wasn't that sort of Rapid Fire Letterkenny, bang, bang, bang that you're used to. Well, I know, like in that my line of work, there's something called a style guide for writing or, you know, for that is their style guide, you know, that you use for editing or whatever for Letterkenny and, and the different 14. Using um not necessarily certainly nothing that would translate over the script. I think just having works with Jared for so long. Now, both me and Kyle. The other editor, we go into these. These Seasons only having a pretty good idea of what he's going to want out of these scenes. In most cases, sometimes we're surprised, and we sort of experiment with different things. And that's, that's the really great thing about it is, we're, we still get to collaborate. Eight along the way and sort of try different things. And that's what makes these scenes pretty funny. At the end of the day because we, we do accidentally maybe find some gold in there when we try different combinations and stuff like that. So yeah. Funny and gorgeous. So like for a comedy, it there is a lot of attention to visual detail. On both shows, I am thinking even liked the episode, we're going to review tonight. There's a great shot of one of the behind the truck in And there's the Moonlight and stuff. What a gorgeous shot like that. That's not uncommon Panic. Yeah, Letterkenny. Yeah. Not a shot. And you see in a comedy off and that's, you know, that's something you see, you know, in a drug is it is, you know. And, you know, while you might sometimes get episodes that are sort of stand-alone and live on their own. Yeah you do get those sort of heartfelt looks but also heartfelt script moments those very rare moments you know between maybe Wayne and Katie right on International women's day or something like that. Like you still do get those very sweet moments where. Yeah, so I agree and short as he to with the it's just shot beautifully and everybody does such a great job on it. So it's yeah, it's great to work on. So we will go on to the listener questions. Real quick here, we have got like, only 10 minutes to go. Sorry for keeping you so long, but I am in. No, hurry. Okay, so our buddy time at home. So, all right, well sorry, we are really trying and you're he has. So what's the timeline for editing? The episodes? We already talked about that. Um, how much is done as a season is filmed and how much is done well afterwards. So we already talked about that. So you basically work in concert and by the time they're done shooting you, you said that you basically have rough cuts of all the episodes. Yeah. The nice thing about working sort of, in tandem with production is that we're also able to flag anything that comes in if we're able to see it quickly enough, bonuses that we can sort of flag it and say, oh, I don't know if this is working or maybe we Need to get this again and will very likely, you know, very nicely say right? You know, maybe we should try this or try that and sometimes it doesn't always happen. But I think that's the nice part about not being on set. And a part of the crew that shooting is that we get the luxury of Total Clean Slate comes to us, and we have no we don't know what's coming to us, and we just get to see it for the first time, right? So yeah, it is, it is kind of nice. Our buddy Trace asked her, the question Trace ass Given the Lightning Fast shooting schedule. How much coverage do you have to work with and are most of the shots cut pre-planned, as they shoot? So you already mentioned, they pretty much stick to the script, but yeah. Do you have a lot of extra footage or are they really kind of efficient? If you confuse me, one thing you should be efficient? Yeah, I was just going to say that, ya know, and they are, they are efficient, I mean, in a lot of cases, it really depends. You know if it's a, it's an, if it's a more ambitious Montage where we need to get Especially the fights if we need to get that beat your. We're going to get more material for that. But if we're if kisos happy with what he sees we're done, and we know, you know if it takes to takes if it takes for takes right, once we feel like we have gotten it, that's it. So I wouldn't say there's a ton compared to other shows that I have heard about, it's not even close. It's not a ton of material but right it's enough. It's enough. The you ever edit parts from different takes to Perfect take or that generally doesn't happen. Parts from different takes. Yes. Owens like lines or something. Yeah. So when they're trying to kind of they do a take like let us say five six times and you kind of take some parts from different to kind of edit that perfect. Sure, sure, yeah. There's been times when we have stolen, you know, lines from another take and correct reads where maybe somebody will fumble on a line, and we can sort of slide it in there, and it'd be very, very hard to notice unless you worked on it on the day, you know, to notice that when it comes out on the day, maybe the lips don't quite go with the line, but it's, that's cool it. That's just, that's really only something that I would notice at that, at that point. It's so, it's so finite, but it wouldn't. You probably wouldn't pick it up, but definitely, definitely cases like that. Yeah, very cool. So I wanted so sometimes there, Word we call it Alphabet Aerobics, where they are just talking so fast and words that you just don't even understand. Make me too? Is it is, it is it difficult when you like, I guess this goes back to the first question about in a different language. Sometimes, it almost sounds like its different language is that hard to cut to go back and forth on the, on the Alphabet Aerobics. X, it is, it is, but you'd be surprised at how much of that fast pace happens in the edit as opposed to the day I am I can imagine really I can't. Yeah. So a lot of the I mean you know on the day with that in mind, think of the hockey scene at the beginning of lost dog with Riley Jones. He's spewing off all the hockey players, but the food and stuff like, oh yeah. Yeah, a lot of that rapid fire quick, pacing. Stuff usually happens in the edit. It's almost always tightened to the point where we have no room, which is, which is the pit, which is Letterkenny, right? I guess that's, that's what makes it unique among other things. Is that it's this rapid fire? Just a barrage of wordplay has Letterkenny ruined you for editing anything else, like we're director. My say, whoa, whoa, whoa, can we laugh lines? Breathe, please like, yeah, you got it even with Shore zbrush or z. I was finding myself getting into that and while it may have worked in some situations and I yeah I feel like I am going to have to retrain my brain. When I go to work on something else because for the past five, six years now, I have just been doing this crazy blistering pace for lines. That like, there's no pause for the laugh because you will miss something. And then you have to watch it five more times just to get every single one of the trillions of it. That's, that's how they get you. That's my favorite cold, open of all time. The way the, which one better or which are the heike 100, the hockey menu. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. I was listening to the episode you guys did on that bless you. Thank you for listening by the way. Yes, no. Thank you guys. I mean Daniel you were so kind to sort of shout me out on that episode. I was listening to it. Yeah, you set it up together. Yeah. Oh did I mention that I was coming on the show and let us write. You said I love. That Drew guys trust me, if you listen back over them over the last, how many credits that in hundreds of episodes, hundreds of episodes, we have had the editing gets called out a lot. So that's why I went awesome. When I mentioned that you were coming on, a lot of people were like, whoa, that's great. What a, you know? Yeah. For sure, we have touched on this already but, you know, trial injure. And this is a two-parter from Chandra and Trace. Do you have private? Private stash of bloopers to keep for insurance /. Blackmail purposes and Trace asked, and may we have them? Oh God, I don't know if I keep a private stash. I think they have all made it out into the World by this point if they're older Seasons. But there's certainly some gold that's been left out that, you know. Yeah. Just throughout the years but damn it. We didn't get it out there. But you know it's an all at the end of the day I mean a lot. Of the stuff we put together is so finely curated by Jared and it again to Echo. What I said earlier it's just it's so nice to be able to work to for somebody that knows exactly what they're looking for especially when it comes to like working with him on Shore. Z that's truly, truly his baby and you can tell he knows exactly what he wants and it's you know he gives you the reasons as to why he wants it and it's a good collaboration. It's a really good working relationship we have with him. So How did you get that relationship with key? So like did you have to meet him and really figure out what? Like, what is it that he's trying to capture? Like how do you get that kind of? Is it just trial and error and you build on it? Or did you have to study him somehow to figure out what is it? That's what he's looking for. I think a little bit of both, you know, I mean, a lot of trial and error off the Hop, you know, I came into this show, like I said, as an assistant, Editor and when eventually in season 4 and editor had left the show. So, I threw my name in the ring, you know, not having scripted experience by the way. So it was a long shot to begin with, but I had thrown my, my hat in the ring, and I had to get on calls with Jared Jacob and bell at the time. And I remember them asking saying, so, how much TV experience do you have? And my answer was none. So I mean they took a chance on me, you know, and I am so glad they did because, you know, 30, some odd episodes later almost, you know, here we are and great. I am so, so grateful to be able to work on something like this. That I truly believe is one of the best Canadian TV shows ever made whether I worked on it or not, I am sure you guys are a little biased as well but not Victor, but yes, I am and change has gotten. There are. No, I hey, hey, I think letter Kenny's great. I am just a bigger fan of Shores. Sure, I think Shores, he's fair enough. It's I get that a lot to it, and then they are different shows the end of the day, right? But yeah, to your point Enya it took time to sort of get ahold of what his style was you watch very closely at the notes. And, you know, of course, like there's been times when I will get a message from somebody, and they will be like this. Great. This is fantastic but there's also been other times when it's like, what am I looking at? Yeah, you know, which is, you know, maybe I missed the ball but that's part of the process. Yeah, you know, credit we deal with criticism all day every day, but that's part of how we get to this. Yeah, so it's cool. It's very cool. Jeff asks, can we get a copy of the Christmas Lover video? Please like the music video. The, the mark four words. Yeah, performance that got cut out of the Oh my goodness. Yeah let us talk about a Christmas episode talk about stuff that was left on The Cutting Room floor. Oh my goodness. When he is singing that in the Christmas episode, The I think that might have been one of the longest takes. There might have been six to eight takes just because him and key so could not keep it together at all, at all. How could you right? Yeah, start singing. And yeah there's the I Those scenes were they just start to lose it and then I think how the hell am I going to cut this together? Because there's just so much laughing in here. But right at it done. So get her done. Mike asked if there was a like, a something that made I will just read it out. What one thing that got cut, not a blooper, but something that didn't make the final cut that you wish had. Can you think of any? Oh, my God, times. When a going back to the dicks. The first episode I cut with them. I guess this is going to come across badly but when I first got to sink my teeth into the dicks. Perfect, I am crying clipping that way. You're welcome there is so much happening there because Jonathan torrents as you know who plays Noah. Also, wrote that episode. Yeah, so while there was a lot of stuff Did I think he felt that he could sort of sway a little bit with things? And there were so many other lines in there that we tried, we tried, putting them in different combinations of them. And, you know, we landed on what we landed on. But there are they're oftentimes where they will just, they're just sort of spit ball ideas. And like I said earlier, the Magic, The Magic will happen at some point, and then we will decide to keep it. Or will, you know? I will try, I will try and get in there with Jared and then it will disappear at one point, right? It's yeah. There're tons of times when things aren't necessarily scripted that end up being in the final edit and that's the beauty of it. Oh, those dicks. They just keep on coming, they just settle down. All right, save it for tonight. So I mean, you have given us like over an hour. Drew, thank you so much for just a couple of final questions since Matt isn't here. All asked his boilerplate question. What does it mean to you? To be part of this cult favorite Universe? Now, it's not even just Letterkenny. It's both Letterkenny and schwarzy. I mean, yeah. How do you feel being part of this? So this show that the become bait that's basically blown up. Yeah, I mean, like I said earlier, it's I feel truly, truly gifted to be able to work on something both as a fan first, and then as, as an editor, you know, it you don't always get to work on. On things that you're a huge fan of the end of the day. But this that, you know, when I work on these shows, especially it doesn't really feel like a job. I really do enjoy the dailies and getting to work on this show. I know having gone to, you know, wrap parties in the past speaking, to fellow cast members, especially ones that are part of the crew, not just myself. But, you know, people have been with the show since season 1 and having this long Every with having gone so long, like, I can speak for myself is that you know this having worked on the show, was able to pay for a house for me, was able to pay for my wedding, you know. So it's just like, it's given me so much. Yeah. It besides the pleasure of getting to work on it, it's, it goes, much more beyond that, you know. So. And you get to work with awesome people. Yeah. The same time that's, you know. Jacob is amazing. Jared's amazing, everybody. That I get to work with on this project is awesome and now that we have Shore Z cooking up again for speaking too soon. It's so exciting. I cannot wait to get my hands on those scripts because that's always the exciting part for me. Seeing those scripts, come into the, into the inbox, it's like a whole because I don't know what's happening. So it's exciting for me to, but it truly, truly is an a joy, a privilege, and totally Curved that this show has become what it's become and in my eyes, well, said, have any final questions for Drew not questions, but like, just, thank you so much for coming out tonight. This was absolutely amazing to have you on. I again, I just love seeing another angle on the intricate. Like it's just, it's again, it's mind-blowing. It blows. My mind how everything pieces together and to the show. That we all love, right? So, thank you so much for we're all fans of the show at the end of the day. So it's awesome. And thank you for the kind words. I did. I would love to chat with you guys again soon. Yeah, but well after Shores the season to Victor, do you have any final? Ah, there you are. Yeah, I certainly I so you shared with us that you have kind of been passionate about editing since childhood and you know you went to school tour for it. So we know you like editing, so I am wondering maybe you could share with our listeners something that some Hobbies passions that you have outside of editing. And this industry. So we can get a bit of a peek behind, you know what? No, that's it. That's it. Go, it's all I do 24/7. No, honestly, I have always been a fan of video games, any sort of entertainment medium, I enjoy reading. I just since I was young, I have always enjoyed the Arts, you know, I have always enjoyed TV movies, you know, who doesn't right? So I think it's a great privilege to not only enjoy them but to be able to work in them and sort of have the opportunity to tell these stories and especially as an editor, I think your given a pretty important job when you're handed something like this. And you know, it's somebody else's baby that they're handing to you, and they're trusting with you. So I think that in itself is a huge privilege to be able to take on and sort of share. So Do what you love. You never work a day in your life, right? And I and that's how I truly feel. You know, this is something I picked up not to get all of, you know, romantic about it. But it's something I picked up when I was young and it's something I just sort of stuck with and I really feel that if you really fall in love with something and you truly enjoy something, I think you can find a way to make a living out of doing it, no matter what it is, you know. Amen. I completely agree. Yeah I have been fortunate to but yeah it's great Cup Final few questions. For me if you're working, do you have any projects outside of Letterkenny assures? You that you work that you'd like to promote nothing? Currently, I am just starting to start a dip, my toe, in the water, with some writing. So, very early stages, I think, I think like editing they sort of go hand-in-hand, sort of building a story and creating, so I am very intrigued by that. But I think currently on the go just sort of sitting in my creative cave, as they say and lying in. Wait, it cools. And if you know, folks wanted to follow you and you know, learn more about what you do. What's the best place to follow? Sure. My Instagram is at Drew MacLeod, Dr. Ew, Mac Elio. Di on Instagram. It's probably the best place to find me. That's usually where I am on. That's how you found me. So yes, absolutely. All right, well, thank you so much. Drew again, you have given us an hour of your time, and we'd love to have you back, you know, for a part two with, you know, When Shores he's out and also when Mac can be here because I am sure he's gonna geek out with a bunch of questions that we never thought to ask you because. Yeah, we it will be nice and fresh at that time, too. So I can tell you all the, all the fun stuff that we left on the floor. So excellent. Thank you so much for getting. We can geek out together. Perfect, there we go. I am going to play this off here with this song from Shore Z. It's a no discussion by dodo low. Buying what you're selling more discussion when there's actual poker face in the bluff, about 2,000. They would I get the bucket? It's my time, and I am about to make it happy. Thank you! Bye. That's all we have for this episode. Don't forget to give our sponsor diabolical coffee. Some love there. A diabolical coffee.com, right now you can use a promo code produce a for 20% off, any purchase from their site. You'd like to support the podcast right us on iTunes Spotify or become a patron. There's a patreon link on our site or Twitter profile at produce a us on Look Instagram Tick-Tock produce a pod. Look Instagram Tick-Tock produce a pod. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us. Now, we're going to go hang out with and have some sticks with our new friend, Drew on behalf of Drew Victory, Matt and Tania and myself. Now, we're going to go hang out with and have some sticks with our new friend, Drew on behalf of Drew Victory, Matt and Tania and myself. Thank you for listening, have a great week. Thank you for listening, have a great week. We could shoot put in the Square that right foot? We could shoot put in the Square that right foot?
