TPS151: An Interview With Terry Ryan (aka Ted Hitchcock)
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The gang at The Produce Stand are joined by Terry Ryan, who plays Ted Hitchcock on Letterkenny and Shoresy.
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Kenny podcasts out there but this one here, two-thirds of us has been screeched in at the George Street, Festival this summer. So there you go. I am out your host. And joining me in the room is always lovely tan, Yu and online. We have squirrely matte, but not the very busy Victor, he's still working, but joining us this week, he is a first round, and a child draft pick chosen. Its overall by the Montreal Canadiens in 1995, he's a media personality and author and an actor. Appearing in shows, like little dog, Hudson and Rex, and the film of fire in the cold season, but we all know, Love them as Ted hitch, hot Hitchcock, which is kind of funny, because if you say it fast sounds like 10-inch cocks, please join me in making some noise for Terry Ryan, wondrous. Oh my God, or do I regret nothing? Welcome to the produce stand Terry. Thanks a lot for having me, guys. Really It's interesting to be here. Oh, you have got a unique podcast and it's a privilege to join a that, it's an honor to have you here, sir. And I mean, it's about time to we have been talking since, since I met you in person, back in, was July or August when we went to and I think it was July was George Street Festival, right? And I mean, you're a busy man, and so we really appreciate that you made the time to join us. No problem. You know, I get asked to do these and now you realize like we really tried and Telling you, that's how busy I am. But I am busy in the sense of Well, my daughter, she left for Calgary today, her mom lives in Calgary. So I have got her most of the time, the vast majority, you know, she lives with me and Mount Pearl Newfoundland and, you know, everything I do whether it's acting or writing or podcast. And I also do some I work in a podcast in Edmonton. Got your back with old Jr. Opponents and buddies. Ryan were shocked and Jason strudwick, right? So it's busy but a lot of it I just kind of do you know I make my own Schedule? Yeah, so I am like, okay, well maybe this particular night, but you know, it's just Time Slips Away From Me and I gotta try to get my due to a week myself. I do one solo Mission podcast early in the week, and I have a guest later in the week and it's setting that up is hard enough. So I am sure better late than never, but honestly, we have been talking about this for four months and went. Absolutely. And that's great. And I am not, I mean, I am not complaining, or we're just happy to have you on. We, we actually just had Max bouffard on like earlier this week. So we're slowly collecting are s**** Yeah, great. I like that. I can make sense out of that sentence. Yeah. And are we starting to joke that let me know without posted the picture when he met you at the George V Festival? We're like okay, and he said he's been talking. You were like yeah sure you have so it's like after a while it felt like just a stalker moment, a Newfoundland. Yeah, but you're here. So it brings a story all together. Now listen know that happens all the time. Sure is you know, George Street. I like that area. Anyway, if you know is there was no I mean it's Great for drinking and partying at part of St. John's to me is where it's at. It's the old, I mean, St. John's is the oldest city in North America. Yep. Water Street is right there. Connected to George Street and that's the oldest. I mean, if you know the oldest street and Saint John. So I am guessing one of if not the oldest Street in North America just doing the math. So and you know it's really European down there. It's our I don't know. I really love that area town. I love history and you know your further you get away from that and it's a big area. I am not just saying down. You know, the older part of St. John's, yeah, it starts to get I am in Mount Pearl, the cabin type of house and lower Mount Pro, but for a lot of, you know, there's a lot of subdivisions that are, that could be anywhere and that's great. I mean a lot of my friends live there but I like spending my time. If I am gonna go for a coffee, if I am going to do some research and I just go downtown to any number of local bars or restaurants during the day and do my thing. So and the thing is that's the biggest tourist area. So absolutely Hurry that's been for years. I mean here people are kind of numb to the presence of me. You know it's like you know we have been there done that week. I know a lot of people it's not a huge place. I get 200,000 people give or take and what everybody goes to George Street so whether it's a Canadiens fan or then my book is a lot of people that enjoyed that. So and Letterkenny before short. See? I mean that I do just that one scene. Yeah. But you know, Letterkenny fans or really into it, and they're some of the most passionate fans of any TV. I know. So a lot of people recognize me from that you like I said, the hockey thing. Yeah, so I often run into people that share stories. I love it. It's people from all over the world I like airports a lot of people don't but I like talking to, you know if you can't tell, I talk a lot, so that's sort of thing happens all the time. It was honestly, it was great to meet you. That's great. Well I mean we had an amazing vacation there those are first real family vacation in a couple of years. Yeah, thanks to the pandemics, and we were still not, you know, leaving the country. So they well, let us go. Visit a place in Canada. Data that we have never been to before Newfoundland came. Highly regarded and I gotta say it lived up to every standard it was amazing. Beautiful. Well, the this summer in particular, we had great weather must. Yeah, it's hot. It's hot as balls no. Yeah. So it's always hit or miss here. Yeah. People say we get bad weather. We might but I think it's over exaggerated because I think we just get our Seasons late. Now then comes that helps in the fall. Yeah. You know right now. Looking out the window. Gives a little tiny bit of snow. F***, two days ago, was eight degrees. It's rained here more than anything. It's fairly mild. Yeah, but in d.c. In the spring the icebergs come down and while they might, or they might not, you know how much ice is going to pass by and you know St. John's being the furthest easterly point in North America, Cape Spear but you know St. John. Yeah. So I think, when people picture the ocean and land of Canada, they think that the icebergs just go everywhere, but they don't it's not like they go and Deke around and go into pei and you know I mean I guess technically some ice can go. In. But for the most part, we get the icebergs, you know, the Titanic went down off of, I think 150 miles off the coast of Newfoundland, which is closed in nautical terms and so, you see that, but it's beautiful. And the whales tend to follow it in the seals and there's Wildlife. I mean, it's yeah, we saw some wild look at, but they put the wind coming off of it. If there's a lot of them and it creates fog, it's cold. It might be June and you can tell that it wants to be 22 degrees, but the wind is coming off the ocean. Yeah, and it's, it's a jail in it. So That often happens. And it pushes back are really good weather, but this year it was virtually, it was 25 30 degrees which is also yeah. Usually Peak temperature, but I mean two, or three months, it was those temperatures. It was wild. Yeah. Well, we, we went with a local or guy who from Newfoundland, and we went to visit some of his family. In Trinity, I forget the name of the bay but it's not Trinity. It's there're three names warum or something Centreville Trinity. Yeah. And his uh, Uncle has some property on an island that we spent time on, which is completely off the grid, which was a lot of fun, but then he took us even further out to sea silent. No pork Island, wasn't it? Oh, we were on pork, I wear a crown, whatever the Silver Fox Island or something like that. And this island here I think had one of the oldest houses in the country still standing, and we got to tour it and stuff and just me walking around that and feeling how remote that place was and thinking about how those Settlers had to live there through those Winters. And I mean, if anyone got sick, There's No Going to the mainland to see a doctor, you're, you're being buried in the shallow grave there and that's it. Yeah, it's crazy. Leave that newfoundlanders have a camaraderie amongst us, and we were noticed in every, in every Province. There's a Newfoundland by me and I would say Newfie. But that term is kind of Rockets right now. I guess I think it's just well, you said it, I mean you're allowed to say it. Well you know, I will follow your lead. They called me that were teammates. That sure said it with endearment. So I might, you know, it's how you use it, right? Yeah. But anyway, let us say Newfoundland bar. So, you know, and all around even when I travel the like Pittsburgh in Boston, if people know I am going to newfoundlanders will show up because like it's like we're all brothers and sisters. Well of course I am coming to see you Terry. I am from Fox Harbor and you know, I know someone that knows your cousin of Course, I mean, you know, yeah, I think it's a unique Dynamic but over the years, think about it. So that area the very, very oldest, the First Community settled from European settlers was 1600 two or three and that was Cupid's right around in hockey, fans, out there where Danny Clary is from Harbor, Grace Newfoundland. Part of that is Cupid's which isn't far from Trinity, so the whole area started to get settled. And for years, I mean, I am talking to 1600s. Think about that. So for $300, Is really with no electricity. Yeah and you got to, you have got to come up with, you know, stories and traditions and there's a level of bonding and you know there's I think if you didn't have that you wouldn't be able to survive you know. So these people that came before me you know we tend to be in a bubble now a little bit but I like to do that. I like to go to those places and just because it does it's almost like a snippet back in time. I will tell you this, there's a place not far from there where you just mentioned. Attended Trinity Bay on the way to Bonavista, where Michael Ryder and A Tear from those hockey fans and it's called Keels. And they do ke Els has for the most part. Honestly, it's a ghost town of something. A lot of people bought, what remains of the town. And what I realize we're out there was some American, Chorus that really enjoy them. Because relatively speaking, these places on the water are fairly inexpensive compared to the rest of the world and his beautiful spots. Yeah, but and it's very remote. So we were our there. I was working crew on locations, doing a show called Mahdi Ethan Hawke and Sally Hawkins. I think her name was they both did unbelievable performances. It was and it was one of these locations that once we were there, we were there. So I was on crew, but once we were set, I like got to watch. Ethan Hawke and Sally at work. It was wild. There was no reception, so I was sitting down one day but I, and I was like you know, jump how high when you're on locations. So I was one of the crew only so many people could stay in kills everybody else. Went back to Trinity or Bonavista or Claire and go wherever they stayed particular weekend. I can't remember. But we're out there for a week. I think and because there was no reception and there was nothing. To really do. I mean, hang out and it was nice. It was a nice break. Couldn't use your phone. Let us say, right? So yeah, Ethan Hawke walks up behind me when I was like, no way. And I was reading a book that he was kind of mentioned in that kind of was Mick, Jagger's book. And I was just sitting on a cliff, it was like October late October and like I was saying, we have Late summer so it's like 2000 degrees. Remember just being a real nice night looking out. It was almost like a movie set sun going down and Ethan comes up and sits there. And I would have my books and I threw a book in his chair in the green room. I really didn't think he'd read it, but I did remember in Montreal him. I didn't meet him but I remember being at more than one game, he's friends with Kiefer Sutherland. Who goes to a lot of halves games and I did Miki for out after game a few times. So, I had that in common, I might have written a note, written a note. Anyway, came up behind Me, and he said, dude, I read your book, it's great. I said what he said. Well, there's not I can't get a hold of my wife, and my kids are anything in. Right here, I am kind of enjoying this vacation. So he said, I played some Solitaire or whatever. And he said, I read your book, and he walked up behind me, and he kind of encouraged me that was right before. Right before I did a scene on Frontier, he really encouraged me to try acting. I was like, what I was in the again. I was in the industry. People think that there was this goal, I would have loved to be an actor, just wasn't possible. I was locations for 45 years. It was good money. I got accepted to do education, but I really I took two-year programs. One year accelerated. I just didn't have that time. I needed to provide for people. Sure, that's kind of what happened and Ethan Hawke so if it wasn't for such a remote place, like heels with no reception and felt like we were going back in time, you know? But it was I got to sit and let us chat with them. We came back in town, speaking of George Street? Yeah, and we went out one night to a place called The Bull and Barrel. I took him in, and we had four or five drinks. At least that and I called a few friends, I said, yeah, you know, can I do an audition? That's kind of how it all started. No, you didn't ask me that question, but I was going to be, is going to be asked, but thank you for getting there. And by the way, bullying barrel. I have been there and it's a great place. Well, there's lots of my favorite. That's my favorite music bar. Yeah, it's owned operated by Tino Borges who's a local magician? My friend for years? Yes, night, they Mick Davis played. And yeah, there's always some great music. And when there's not live, he kills up the old school I was going to say, we love just sitting there watching all those old school videos, there is great, and he's got great taste in music. So just to go back to the interview here. Where are you speaking to us from your home and where Mount Pearl Newfoundland? Yeah, oh sorry. Sorry Newfoundland, you know? I am right outside. If you were driving through, I don't think he would tell that it's not St. John's, it's just greater great carriers. Yeah. And yours is this where you grew up? I grew up here in Mount Pearl. So the house I am in now. But I mean, I bought this house in the spring but it's tiny in this bottom part of Mount Pearl. What at first was my mom's father, my grandfather, Bill Norris Buckley Norris, who actually fought in the War and was on the HMS, Bulldog to the HMS, bulldog Collected. The Enigma machine, which ended up leading to, I mean, it was a huge. Wow. Turn the tide by 71. Yeah, yeah that's it, that's it. Exactly. They glorified it up and made it American in the book and exactly the story you're talking about. Yeah, that's the story. Must know. My pop was I he actually lost his arm. He only had his left arm, and he's right-handed. He baby blue it on, it blew off in a can, and so I like I he always seemed a step ahead of the game. So we came back from the war they lived in downtown St. John's on at Southside, actually you call it and Mount Pearl. There's a nice little river running through where I am now. I mean, there're things built up around it, but back then, it was almost like a cabin. So he just saw some cheap land, he got back, can't remember. But he got some kind of severance for paying, and he started the Mount Pearl Legion. I know that and was just up the road, and we were probably, I don't know. Now, there's only 40,000 people in Mount Pearl. I think we were the fourth or fifth house and my parents still live in that house. So I bought a place just up the road. Tiny little spot, 650 square feet, my daughter and I love it. There's a river Outback. It's old school, right? There's not too many places around town. Now, that are what's the word. So Protected or like, you know, it's a little bit, like you're living in the country, right? And there're Parts all around, St. John's, but they're quickly, I mean, the population of the island isn't increasing. I don't think. But in say, you know what's happening is all those fishing towns that are now ghosted towns. There're different Industries, a lot of people come in to St. John's shot two people fly away now and work in Fort McMurray for example, but live in St. John's. So they come back. So there's just a lot of the small towns are something of the past. That's why I like visiting them, would you ever leave? Good question. So I think if I left Newfoundland right now, say I could make more money, just be, you know, my daughter wanted to live here. My I love it. I mean, I came back for a reason, the last professional team. I played on was Orlando, we won the championship, and I was offered to stay and ID number jobs. It was Orlando. I just found it a bit transient, like I said, you're from here. Yeah. Eight years, there's something in there in your blood man, you're from Newfoundland and you know, I love that. I love that I am from here and there's a camaraderie that I don't want to escape. Now would I if my daughter Had gone to Calgary, but she didn't really want to. It was, you know, six months ago. Yeah, she said Daddy. Like, I really, really don't want to go. It wasn't that you didn't want to be with her mom, obviously. She's out there now. They were great relationship. Yeah, but Daniel, and I have a, my ex a real unique way. We came about being together and everything, and we have a unique approach on life works but Penny Lane wanted to be here. And I know, I look back. I am like, I have always said it, I am so happy to have grown up here, just so many she plays. Sports. She doesn't like hockey, but she's into soccer send the provincial team. So she takes that really seriously her and her friends or I know she could play sports anywhere but it's just something about, you know, growing up here and there's a camaraderie and a sacrifice and you I think what's what am I getting at? Like it feels to me like it just being a newfoundlander you're like part of a team already, right? And where I am from in Mount Pearl. We would be. So we're our own City, really, but like I said, you wouldn't really tell if you were looking, but we would play against St. John's back in the day and St. John's because of population sites. Let us just say ice hockey. For example, we would be the mount Pro blades. All of Mount Pearl. So you got to play for Mount Pearl, your the Mount Pearl blades, you get your jacket, you know, you're proud of it and everything Mount St. John's would have liked Kilbride ghouls St. John's a Saint John's West Hooch Cove Torbay. You know, there's all these little factions. Yeah. So, I am not saying I got a whole we're proud to be from Newfoundland but entrant Mount Pearl itself. I think is a fantastic place. It's geared towards families. A lot of money into programs, Community programs, family, driven, stuff Sports, I don't know if some people out there have been to Kamloops, K reminds me of that Countess BC, gives me the same kind of feel, you know. It's a good spot to grow up and dice. Anyway would I leave You have to pay a lot of money to feel, I don't know. It'd have to be a lot of money, a lot of money or a lot of opportunity for my daughter may be with, you know, I don't know. She gets older, something outrageous happens. I maybe she plays pro soccer and traumas. Hey yeah. But I don't see getting up and leaving as fun. You leave for opportunity and work and cool experiences and this is home. Yeah. Hey yeah. And I love that I can do my podcast. I know now that being an actor, I just finished a lifetime movie called made to kill. That will be out soon. It was an honor, it was a great privilege to be There with some awesome actors. I get into the game lame. And so, I people look at me as an actor but I still am in awe of, it's like when I first skated in the NHL I mean I yeah I am not usually stuck for words, but I was when I met Vincent. Damn, Foose Saku Koivu, you know, I still feel like that in the acting world but I can do that. I got a great support sick. I said, Penny Lane, I can leave for a week and her friends, like, you know, yeah, your soccer team, they hang out, they sleep over their sleepovers, my parents live, just down the road. I don't like to rely on it. Be gone too. Along but, you know, I still get to go and do my thing and, you know, I love Toronto and it is my Hub. It's only a couple hours on a plane, right? And they're often every month, it seems. I am at least they're a weekend. I got my agency there. I got real good buddies there. There's a number of reasons to go so it's not like I am I have cabin fever, I love the island but I get to leave. Yeah, well, I mean, I can quickly say, I mean, I follow you on Instagram and stuff. I know a lot of our listeners do when it seems really smart perspective. Living your best life right now. And I don't know. Is this always been the tone of Terry? Like, are you always just go? Go, go looking for experienced. Living the best life. It's fun to watch. But it's something else, man. Thank you. I never thought of it like that and most of the things that I did like, people. I know what they think they look, and they go like, oh man, like I can't believe you tried stand-up comedy and you open for Gerry Dee and materially. I say, yeah, tell you that story in a sec. This is wild. But these are things, he read my book and I we were writing a hockey thing, and he said, you know, I said, can you he wanted me to go to Toronto for the summer? This was 2015 or 16, and I was like, wow. I mean, I can we can you get me a job? And I got there. And he said, yeah, you're open for me. I went down and I opened for him. My first show in like a said I did a practice the night before I went to yuk-yuks downtown Richmond. Are internal engine Street. Yeah, I got absolutely gone like I just didn't want to die. I mean Talk a lot, but I was terrified to get up there. I don't mind public speaking even right, that took a while to get over that. But stand-up comedy, you know, is this thing on? Like I was like, Jesus went up. And I just said, I am Terry Ryan. I am going through a divorce and people kind of chart. I said I got a folklore degree. We were like what the hell's folk, or they started? They were like, where's it coming from? I said I am the biggest Sports disappointment in the history of Newfoundland and Labrador. People started Jerry. I said you want to hear my last shift in the NHL. You want to hear the title me story. You want to hear how I knock my teeth out with A and people are going mad. So I just told stories, and I was overcharged, but I didn't realize that Jerry. I thought it was a bucket list thing. I was talking with Jerry the week before. Yeah. And I still thought he was gonna get me a job like I don't know organizing his summer, I don't know what he I don't know. Could have been holding a sign on the side of the road. I just needed money, so that was it. He said meet me at Asha when I went out there, and he said you're open and tonight I came out to his 4500 people strong. It was wild and that's great. Yeah it was wild and again people can look at Go, it's great for Terry trying that guy didn't want to do it but I said I got it. I got to take advantage of this Gerry Dee one of the best comedians in Canada or anywhere really is. Show is dynamite man and I said, I can't do this, so I just did what I always do when I am terrified, I just looked in the mirror and spoke to myself. I would look right at my eyes in the mirror and said, you do this, you guys here because I said, Now at first, but anyway those things happened, it was, it was survival? Yeah. Okay, I was offered decent money, I Had no job. You know, I was I guess I was bouncing around and film Crews because I was a guide in the union and I oxy. But I didn't, you know, it's there's often a break I needed. I just needed money, and we made some bad financial decisions at the time, my wife. And I, so yeah, it was it. Now, I guess I could have just, I could always take a nine to five or something, I suppose. I was a Red Bull rep for two years. Nothing against Red Bull, but I hated it. I just hated didn't. Psalms get into insurance or something. At one point, it was offered and I nearly took it, but it's not me. Like, I got to be creative in some way. Yeah Nations. Yeah, and I didn't mind that because I am part of something that's creative. I don't mind doing work. I will do Hardware. As you know, I mean, I do a lot and, you know, the mental and the physical whatever it might be. I still play senior hockey, I love that. So I like being busy. I like challenging myself. The things that presented themselves are Otherworldly, I am so lucky that way. And I guess I took advantage of it because I saw a small window. Sure. I nearly, I mean it's the power of. Yes. Right. Say yes, exactly. And try it at this. Yeah. You know, I get up. It's just part of my. Yeah. And he got up and I know now, the people who follow me, support me, I know that. The reason that I get sponsorship money is that people like Shores either like spitting Chiclets. So I try to You know, that, that's me and my character and schwarzy that Hitchcock. I mean, it is dead. Hitchcock, I have to go outside myself a little bit. But, I mean, let us be honest. Here, the characters from Newfoundland. Yeah, missing a tooth. You know what I mean? That's just the way it is in the room. That's kind of, kind of the way I other than his accent is a little deep. But, you know, I am just kind of mimicking a friend that we used to grow up imitating. That's what I am doing there. But and I mean, it's kind of in me anyway. Sir, I can just talk like this if I can start talking like this. No problem, because that's the way I talk when I grew up. So it wasn't, you know, I get to do that and it's wild. So the people that dig that and it all goes back, my books and all the all of this stuff the vehicle is hockey, right? And I got into it and things didn't go the way I planned in Montreal obviously, but after the end of the day, I got hurt. I do believe I would have someone would give me a chance to phone was ringing all the time. I know it's easy to say, you know, and I should have gone back to Montreal Camp. I didn't, I know that's not what we're talking about. But for a while there, I nearly disassociated. I came back, and I was tripping over my bottom lip. I was seeing people that I played against that. I am not going to name names but I knew I don't want to use the word better, but I knew I was at least as good. Sure. And this is two years ago, I am like nothing happened to me since my draft here at 50 in my draft here. I can fight anybody. I it's not fair and I really I was upset, but everybody has a different timeline. The people who drafted me, and They all got fired, when Patrick wha demanded tray. So people came in that I wasn't necessarily probably be there. Try need to work on my skating but I still thought I was an NHL or I know I was in NHL or so. But for 23 years, I came back, man. I got hurt and I didn't even pay attention to hockey at all. And then one day I don't listen, so long story, I won't get way into a boyfriend, put me on a reality. Shows four in the morning I have ever had mustard on my shirt, was eating hot, those loaded drunk, Mike O'Neill, and he was starting a reality. A show and he pinned me up against the wall and he said, Terry the sun's gonna come up tomorrow, no one's going to feel bad for you. You're pissing your life away, your good guy. So I went on his reality show called Define yourself. I went from 248 to 190 kinds of what I am now and I called well, you know, you just do good things and positive things happen. The head of the ball hockey, Canada team and watch me play ball hockey. That's big here, and he said, can you run a knack for some reason? Didn't hurt at all when Iran was a high ankle sprain, right? And he said, yeah, he took me to the World Championships, man, and I got over there. I am telling you, this, we won in 2003, and it was such a and forgive 2001. I hurt my ankle. So those two years were pretty, pretty dark. But I, I got over there, and I really shouldn't have been on the team. I know that. Now, I work myself into a, it's every second year by 07. I was an All-Star, but I mean at the World Tournament, but I should never have been there. I got one shift in the final when we made it three to one against check coach, Coach, George Court shows, put me out there. And, you know, I was crying during the shift and I went to talk to him after I go, you know, I should have been on this team George but thanks so much for. I want to World Championship. I was bawling, and he said, this is the Long Haul. He said, maybe you shouldn't have been, but there's a reason that I got you here, and he said, 2005 you're going to come and I did, I got myself in the best shape. I aced, I came first in the fitness next year. I would like So that version of me was just it was starting to it was in the rear view mirror of the bad word. Well the lazy version and the version that blamed other people, right? And then it started to be, you know, I am on Team, Canada here, I played in the NHL, I got, you know, like no matter what, no one can really take that away and now opinions and years gone by, then my daughter got born and Got born. My daughter was born. Now just all faded it. Let's why my book a lot of you know I won't get into it a lot of people offered me. Good money. Sure, to kind of talk about the negative side of being a Montreal, but the truth is, I loved all of it, man. I have a problem with Michel Therrien. I was a kid. I should have gone back to Camp. Most of my experience was a great one. I was like, you know, I used to get up every day and go in and go. I can't believe I used to look at Brad Brown and Matt Higgins and Arron asham and go. Can you believe rather Montreal Canadiens like it, never ever wreck really sunk in a cocky way? So, when I was doing my book, I was like, you know, you guys got it all wrong. I kept a journal in case you didn't know, and I loved my I time there, and I am not going to sit here. And for the sake of selling my soul really, it was a lot more money, but ECW downtown Toronto, they let me do it, they gave me a two hundred, twenty-five hundred dollar advance that I had to pay back, so I didn't get any bonus. Wow let me do it myself, not my call it Tales of a first-round. Nothing, that's right. And you know there's two or three stories in there about Montreal but to me it was great and I loved my time in Hershey and Idaho and, you know, Salt Lake City and I got to travel all over the world playing hockey and that. Lee. It's and it's still the vehicle. What I am doing? I mean, I am an actor. What? I am an author and podcaster all came from hockey, right? Yeah amazing. So 2014 tales of the first round nothing. My life is an NHL footnote. That was your first book and I mean, we could talk about your hockey career for the whole time, but our listeners are going to be like, get to shore Z already. So let us so that's 2014. And then in 2020, you put on another book, fights film, and folklore. Can you tell us quickly what that's what that was about? Well, I was looking for To do during the pandemic and again, film and everything got shut down. So and this is why I don't complain about being busy because I know myself and I need to be. I was going out of my mind. Well, we all were, but I get real bad anxiety and that's the way I deal with it. So, when I was early on, I realized that and I remember my dad doesn't get it at all. He's the most laid-back mom, gets it a bit, but he would be like, you know, maybe harness that energy. In a positive way instead of and it would I would be like you know, just nervous and yeah, anxious and over excited a lot. I mean you can tell that talking to me but, so I take out a paper and Pen then, you know, I, I have written most stuff will never see the light of day, right? But I was reading, you know, I was a creative writer growing up, I didn't really tell my friends, but I was writing like plays and stuff as a kid poetry all the time. So I am most comfortable in the artistic world as writer. So anyway, Penny Lane was there, and I was telling her some stories during the pandemic, and she said, you should do another book. So the show Hudson and Rex came back. You know, how I wrote that book, the show Hudson and Rex, came back, and I was doing locations, I still take days on locations. By the way, I don't mind working on crew at all. It's a good day's work and I can always work on other things, right? When I am in there. So, I was locking up which means basically just make sure people don't walk through a scene you know what I mean. So I was like standing around a corner and there was nothing happening. It was depended on make it was petty. Harbour. There might have been one car every five hours, right? So I realized that I could I didn't even know that you could use word and you could speech to text on your phone. Okay. So I find it a lot. Yeah. I was out there and I went okay, it's for me, it's easier. To break down something. The skeletons already written. It's why the tales of first round, nothing. All of those were journal entries. Some of them don't look much. Like they started, but it was there. And then I reduce and I add and I, you know, I try to massage it. Yeah, yes, I massage it. I try to create some imagery for the reader and everything, but there's a base already there, right? And this was great because I just talk into my thing and go, wow, and I made, so I told like five or six stories by myself into the phone, And then I realize I am like, you know what, I got like 200 Pages here, maybe I could do something else so it's awesome. The fights at the beginning, the first one is all anecdotal really and it's you know chronological order I think of like a boy growing up. I mean if you really look at it, hockey was my life but there's some stuff in the first one that again, it was her every day revolved around hockey, but it was really about me growing up, this second one, the first part, really, the fights I talked. It and I don't want to get way into it here but concussions and I can relate with that. I had them and I didn't get them. All those fights I got in and I didn't get them from that it's like there's more I don't know if g-forces the word but when you get your head down and your skating through the middle and you get it up with a hit that's how I got my concussions one lasted a full year post-concussion syndrome. So I kind of try to talk about that and relate with because people think they're going out of their minds. Like I did it and until I talk to other hockey players and like, it was really a weight. I was going off my shoulders, I was gone ho. Wow. So it's not just me the It feels like this like yeah a concussion. Post-concussion syndrome isn't always headache. It's often emotional. It's you know, it affects everybody different. It's your brain, here's your brain. Yeah, it's a brain injury. Yeah, like really just like having a hard time focusing on a drink to pick up her but whatever it was bad time. So I tried to relate but I stole a night I like the fighting in hockey. There's a respect their that Isn't really in the other sports. I mean, you can't fight first of all, but, but there really is and, you know, so, like everything, you know, talking to Matthew Barnaby after we fought in the Penalty Box, things like that. I tried to like, put in perspective, what it really means to like fight in Pro Hockey. It's not always what you think, right? Always, I hate you. And I am going to come get you. It's part of the job and I find that this point most of my friends from the hockey days that our opponents are the tough guys, and they because they respect it. They realize it was a job, and they were usually the guys in the room to play the music to gel the team together Shore. Z hints on that and it's not wrong like that. Run them up, fill them in it. When you do that as a team and you do it together and you sacrifice and you block shots for your goal. He was having a shutout and there's really something to that. And, so I just explained that now the so it's fights film folklore film was my updated into the film world. I had a lot of things happen and Snot Annie, you know, ball hockey, ice, hockey to ball hockey was an obvious transition. Sure ice hockey to the film world. I know it's becoming a little more. I guess normalized but it's just not there. Just wasn't that many people involved. Know, I remember seeing some of those Wayne Gretzky commercials early on in his career. He was not an actor. 121 does not translate into the other know and you're always doing yourself some. Yeah. Some version of it for some company. You're always doing promos. Yeah. But real an act, right, right? So that is so a lot of people were interested in that and I said you know, I think there's going to be enough interest I can put out Middle part of my book and then the folklore really is just some anecdotes at the end that were left over. I could put out the guy, honestly, guys, 20 of those everything I have talked to you about here today. Would we're halfway through a book already, and we're having this doing episode we haven't touched on Letterkenny but okay. Just and two more things before we get to shore Z because I would hate myself. If I didn't get to it first try to be as quick as possible. First of all, you took out your own teeth of the sledgehammer, why? I did it right. So I lost my teeth in the summer playing ball hockey in 2001. It was I look like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber, they weren't totally out but the front two were half, okay? So I said now that particular year was going to Dallas Stars camp, and I was just coming out of Montreal and that's when I told you I didn't go back to Camp right? And whatever they I can't remember the terms of the trade or whatever happened, but I was finally going to another NHL Camp. So I said I will just wait and get it fixed. They're right ball hockey here. I think the insurance covered 1,000 bucks. I am like, it's going to be more than that. So I will just wait, but it was breathing in as heard to do when the nerves are exposed? So I feel that it's Alice, and he's like, yeah, but you didn't do it here and like, you're not even here and I just didn't think about it. Like I was just like, well I am going to Camp, they will take care of it. Just like they did in Montreal, of course, because I was on his huge contract and, you know, I had medical and all that. So and now I am in the state. So it's going to really doubly cost. Yeah. So I said, okay like I will see what I do here and then I got the ankle injury really? I really heard it there that was the biggest that was really the turning point for my career ending injury that was where the ankle injury, the main part of it happened. So now I am in the hotel, and I am like, okay, I am hurt now. What am I going to do? But they talk to me. They said, we want you to go to our affiliate team in Boise Idaho, you know, get this better there. We will get you out of minor league contract there and you know, who knows if it? It gets better, which it didn't, but maybe you will be up and Dallas. So, I went to Boise. Now, that was another month, man. I came home, and I am like, f****** like we're sorry, it's like, I might just get it done down there. I don't mind. Wait, another three weeks I have been at this point, like two months, but I was wearing a mouth guard around and it was orange. So it looked like I was sucking an orange peel. And when I got to Boise, same thing, I go in, I tell everybody, I tell the trainer keep drib neck, and he says, well, I would love to help you, but you didn't do it here. And I was like, come on, man. So I said well, What if let us just say that, I just choose to live with my teeth like this, and I was to get a puck in the face and hurt them worse. And he said, well then of course it's taking care of them will fix your teeth. And I said, just like a new set of teeth, he goes. Yeah, so that's all I needed to hear. I close the door, his office was connected to our dressing room. I came out, I told the guys, so I said it's either gonna cost me ten thousand dollars or I need you guys to help me out. Figure out how I am Gonna Knock. Holy f***. Yeah, and I will Another three weeks. I was eating like honestly milkshakes and soup. It was stays almost three months, man. But at this point I am like, I have waited this long, I am going to do it and it became normally, I like to challenge myself with realistic things that like, you know, the stand-up comedy that was a challenge but that's realistic knocking your teeth out with a hammer isn't. So anyway, we were surprised, look, you're making 10 you squirm. That's it. This sounds like a grownup version of tying, a string around your tooth and closin the door. Alright. Later, you hear this? So we're at we were at the most of us lived, there was a communal kind of area that it was apartment buildings. And in the middle, there was like a pool and a hot tub and it was, I guess it was November December, but Boise Idaho. It does get cold but you know it's mild a lot of the Year anyway. So I guess we must have been down hanging around the hot tub in the what we were. So it was kids there and every one of them had a little Nerf hammer. Right. And I thought that I could just kind of chip out my teeth ten years. Yeah. With the guys. And that was it myself. We got Jeremy a Blonsky, and Chris graph. We said, you know, that's going to work. So I started and it didn't even come close. Like, first of all, my teeth, they're not long anymore. So it's hard to even get them, and they're like, so far up, there wasn't any chance. No chance that I would have chipped any of my teeth out and I realized that so then I am like, I guess I am not going to do it and there was money going back and forth. So every player on the team was But everybody was on the phone or like waiting. So make this s*** up. No, there was when I saw that there's twelve or thirteen hundred bucks, like going to lose that for my buddies. Honestly, that's where my head. When I couldn't pay for your way, I promise you, I was going to do this. So now I grab a sledgehammer, Bobby Sledgehammer. I don't know where we got it, though. I look the first swing of the sledgehammer I lunched with about 3 inches left, but it. Was so heavy except gone. Do you see my lip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a girl there because it's an f****** Sledgehammer. Yeah, hit my lip. And now my lip exploded so my tongue can go right through and I have a hole in my lip. Oh no. So now there's blood. And now I can hear pit. There were wives shrieking like 10 years right now. Yeah. Oh my God, what is this guy doing? And then I am like I gotta go through with it. I just didn't think I went boom. And now I only had two teeth with a problem I knocked out. Whole roll down because it's a sledgehammer. Oh yeah, and it's spurting out of my teeth and spurting people are freaking out. I am going why I told you I was gonna do this like, well, why is it? I don't I honestly think most people up to that point thought it was a gag. They thought I was especially the wives they and not, they're like, why don't why is this guy on the team? I am sure it was really early on. Now I got to know everybody and it became a funny story but pitcher doing that when no one knows what's happening like. Yeah. Going no contest. No. And then I had to not only that and it was a little much. I remember because it was a bit of a lark, but I am like, man, I am injured. Like, I look like Freddy Krueger what. So Bob, he's like, now, how you go to get to the rink and say, you did it there? I am like, yeah, you're right, I didn't think this out at all. So we just went. There he goes. This is what we're going to do now. We're going to go down to the rink, and we're going to go on really early, like, we're getting extra practice time. It will actually To give us brownie points, practice started at 10, but we could have access whenever we wanted. So I Remember Me and Bobby went there at 7:00. So we walked in, we were the first there and Coach John Oliver was at what walk in his office. He opened the door for us. He didn't notice. I just kind of did this one and then when Kip Germanic did walk in, he walked by, and I was doing up my skates and I just said, hey, how's it going? How's everything today? And I kind of like my head. Yeah, and he didn't catch it, and Bobby just looked over me. Let us go out there right away. So we went out on the ice. He shot one high off the glass. You could hear it because it was nobody in the rink and I just kind of fell, and we went through the most. Oh my God. I took the teeth that were knocked out and I just kind of threw them all over the ice and I all I had to do was like Nick my lip and my mouth just a bit and it would look fresh because I mean it was only happen at seven or eight hours before that. So yeah. So anyway that was it. So I did it and I got my teeth done and then redone. It was well over 10,000 dollars and the book was coming out the book originally was going to come out a little earlier and I remember my lawyer going, you know, it wasn't the reason, but he goes, it's probably going to help anyway, because statute of limitations right you know tell the story now I don't even think about that Angela. Yeah Rod it is its a major crime really but whatever. Well, here's that is the day. You realize that one day, you were going to be an actor. Yeah. Yeah, Terry, we're going to have you on, for a second episode because we other two, because, for example, I want to hear about Ovechkin, stick burnings celebration, or I mean, yeah, that's your move that in that he took from you, and I am sure our co-host Victor would love to hear it in person. So let us move on. Then though, you mentioned, you had 11 seen in Letterkenny in the senior men's hockey. Episode 4. How did you get involved with Letterkenny? Well, get, that's a good question. It came into my radar. I was working on set with a guy Micah Martin, and he and worked with Jared in PEI or people involved with this, I can't remember. That's the first I heard about it, okay, it wasn't like at the beginning when it was on YouTube and stuff that I got into that late but I really liked it. My favorite the Holy Grail of shows to me ever is Arrested Development. I love the word play. Yeah, my favorite show and Letterkenny the first time I watched it. I was almost so where I was taken by surprise like what is this, what is it all about? And then I realized like this show is like, you know, ever hear the saying like dumb like a fox like it. When you first see it, you're like, oh they're playing off stereotypes and maybe it has a dumb is the wrong word, but it's dumbed down when it's explained to you, but I thought it was brilliant writing. A, I love the word play. I am like oh this is exactly like this is Great. But it took me maybe two or three episodes to realize what was happening and I watch them all out of order. So, but you can kind of do that with you can get by and do that with the other County. So I love the show, I never thought I would be honored, of course, but I was here in town and doing stunts acting and I did have some credits at that point. Jason Momoa had read my book and gave me some opportunities but I never thought I would be called to go out of Province. I didn't have an agent or anything like that. I would never have said I was an actor even though I credit it was still like a bucket list thing and in my head and I To do it, but it was a nice, maybe few days pay a year, but they called in the summertime and kind of told me what was up. They said you need to send in. An audition. But I was led to believe it was mine to lose, right? And I don't want to be cocky when I am saying that, but I really was led to believe that's what happened. I mean, I went in, so I was on my way to a hockey school that day teaching at while he Braves local hockey school and to my buddy, Scott Bray and Zach O'Brien who played on my team there. They helped me shoot a Yeah, I guess I mean it was an audition but it was really out of, it was a unique way we did it. I mean, we'd I had the camera skating around the ice, and I was just kind of, remember they said, you know, you can add your own words, if you want. Because, anyway, I will get into that in a second. But so, I did like we did it. I didn't think it was that great, but I did what they asked me, I read the scene and kind of tossed in my own little Swagger to it, which you're not always, I guess, is not always welcome, right? I mean, that's what I did and I got the call back. To go up there. So, I did I got there. This is funny. Like when I got there to do Letterkenny and it was a real privilege for me. Because again, I make I am a big fan, right? And there was so much I wanted to do, but I am like, okay, I gotta get my day over with first and I got to give this, you know, the time it deserves. Even though I mean, this is a version of me, I guess. In a way it's still acting and I got to remember my lines. I have to deliver them you know. I got to act like a professional basically but it happened to be wrapped it. Happen. So it's obviously must have been shot out of order because she wasn't the last scene. Yeah, I didn't know that going in, but it was wrapped a, so I had lunch. I would never met Jarrett. At this point. He's on my radar, and he's friends with some people like, Mark O'Brien. There, there are actors from around here that he's buddies with, but he's not really Jared is not on social media. No, at all. Really trust me. We know he's a fan of tried to that. Yeah, it's so it's I really was excited to meet him and see what made him tick. Yeah. So but I didn't even get to say that we went in the lunchroom, and he called me over, and we just ate it and I love that. He doesn't go to his trailer. He often just eats out with everybody else. So we had we sat at the table, and he went over what I was about to do, and he said, you know, I have only been, I think he said he'd been a Newfoundland for one day maybe for a wedding, but he said, you know if you want to add, you know, I obviously would go through him, but he said, like we're going to do the same. There's anything. You think that maybe you could add to that, give it the flavor. This is where I want. This is why I want you to go. Your kind of times in the bench and the other guy that did it Patrick cook with me. I played hockey with his two brothers, like high levels of hockey, great. The real, real good friends of mine and seen Patrick and like, I don't know, almost 20 years, he moved away after high school, so I did. I had a bit of a report, so I went to Patrick and said, look let us just I am going to do it like I am from Monday Pond. I mean there're townies and there's Bayman, right? That's the only thing. And I know I am going on but Jared, even my character on Shore Z Jarrett is a huge fan of cold water Cowboys, right? So, the way I understand it is that a lot of the lingo that was written for Ted Hitchcock in the Letterkenny scene and then again ensure Z was based off of that. But for example, for example, I believe one of my lines might have said Center Hice because a lot of newfoundlanders will drop a nature at a nature like yeah and Hurley if you go around the bay to some days, it's like Head early by you see, had. We're headed hitter, who hit early, you Ed Hurley, you? Yeah, I sent her Isis Center Ice. Yeah, well, I look, they're gonna drop the puck at Center ice. So, but they say some of that on cold water Cowboys. But the one thing I did learn from folklore is that there's a lot of dialects in Newfoundland. So, I said, well, if you want me to do that, I am going to have to stick to it, like, but I can do a townie now because we used to imitate a guy fonts follow and it's real if you will notice my Letterkenny scene, Is a lot slower. There's more of a draw to it, like well, do you at by noise? But in want to get on the go where I want, that's what the fonts. Ironically, the house I am sitting in onset of stroke years ago, years ago, I bought it. So it's a real close friend of mine living in his house. Now, he's who I am imitating, but I just sped it up. We were kids, he was the Zamboni driver, we get to the rink, and we were just kind of Brats, you know, like f****** around with them. But, you know, taunting Adam, but we All could do a great font, so I was gonna go Jared. I don't even have to think about it. If, if I do a townie / pants, right? And I just kind of saw the first scene is almost, is more funds than ensures. The. I kind of just sped it up and gave my own twang to it. Pusher that's their dead. That's a to Ted's for those that don't know. There're all kinds of Newfoundland dialects men wear depends on where you go but Ted Hitchcock. I am doing a townie and a pretty It's a bit. It gets not an extreme almost. I mean, that's the way people talk here. Yea, but yeah, I will just leave it at that. I am doing a townie. So anyway, we did it and it was wrap party. I didn't know that. So we went out that night got Bamboozled, I miss my flight. I bet my flight was at 6 AM honestly, I couldn't even find the door. I was loaded. We had a great time dancing on the tables. We went to a bowling alley. I didn't know anybody, but, but we all became friends, right? The crew and everything, a lot. So now, Her up there, working on Shore Z. Yeah, Jared said Jared can come out to the party but right before it, he goes look when we did. It was great job. Thanks a lot. And he said, we will get you back, but I had no idea anything Shores, it was happening. I mean, it wasn't in my radar. I thought the next year, then when I get into, didn't get an invitation back to do Letterkenny, it was or and I mean II didn't expect it, even I was just sure he's being nice to me. It was almost as big as saying. You know, I played a gamer like my This game in the NHL like guys, I got on Letterkenny, you know, it's like I am sure The Soup Nazi who's associated with Seinfeld. He's only had three scenes. Yeah. Right. But I am easy. He's part of Seinfeld. He's part of that Universe. I am sure he goes through, whatever the Comic-Con version of the sitcom's is. And I can walk in and be as popular as you know Newman or what it was in like 80 episodes like that. So I just to be part of the Universe. I was delighted yet of all ended their first and I had an on real story to tell how to make Can we quickly expand a bit on that one with? So you got us and then even more into Shore Z and one of our listeners who go by awesome actually as I am going to paraphrase it. But it was what was your was Ted Hitchcock's, dialogue word for word or did Jared and team lean on you a lot to kind of keep them honest and really put the newfoundlanders spin on it to make sure it was more authentic? Okay, grabs a great question was. If I remember going there, Jared told me that I kind of had some Freedom that I will explain to him like an often. It might say something that he heard on cold water Cowboys or like you said, they're pretty good at writing it. Yeah, I don't like insult like I like the show because of the word play and the creative use of the word, so I don't want to insult anybody by changing that. But in my particular case, You know, he's like part of the gag with Ted is that, you know, it's going to be hard to understand them at tourist. Yeah. Oh. As long as that happens and this is where the Scene goes now. Did I change a lot? No, but I pretty much every scene we went through. I was like, Jared, can I say this there? Can I say this? Because I am I had sponsors are true townie and that's what he would do. And, you know, it's just like I said there, it's not just The way you say, words a lot, it's the word choices at correct the right time. And so why do you act doesn't always work? There are people that say hey how you do by right? You say no Newfoundland you say, why do you do sometimes? But you know there're all kinds of different versions of these sayings and sometimes, you know, it's weird to inject them. And that's just the vernacular of, you know, the culture that it's osmosis. I just learned it because it's where I am from. Yeah, no, I will every Pretty much every time. I will go over the lines and just go, Derek. Can I say this? Can I say this and, you know, usually, he's open to it. I am not again, I am not doing something completely different right now. I am just tweaking know, but I feel like it's warranted in this kind of situation. You like highly, you very highly unique where you're from and some of the dialects so and even What We Gather from the team there they want to be even though a lot of show is a caricature of what's going on. They want to be authentic is still true to what's happening, so they BC Not to lean on you, on that totally and it's a weight. Like I think one of the when we're outside by the barbecue, there's he says, you know, I think the lines for example, and a lot of its on the spot guys, because I got it in my head. I remember my head, and if there's one thing, Even on crew, one of my pet peeves, is people that don't have their lines and make their you, dude, you got one thing to do, right? So I guess I just enjoy a doll in my head one job. Right. So when I get in their then I can work off and I don't have to be looking at the script, all it. So like it was Jared I think it said it was something about? They called a come from a way which people do say they might say look at that. Come from away a lot. Meaning that someone from the mainland. Yeah, but I am like in this case, he'd say mainlander, So I said, the line was, I don't know. This guy's a come from a way I think, but I think I changed it to well but it's a mainlander if I ever see one, right? It's this, I am saying the same thing, but in that context, I know what a new, what bonds would say and it would be the mainland or dealing. So, the little things like that, I am getting, we're getting to the same point. Sure. But I love that, that I actually cuz I mean how great is it to be on a show is so good. Sure, as he's. So, Great. Okay. And, you know, Again, I am not writing it but it's nice that I can actually put my own flavor. Sure. This car is absolutely at, you know, it's just I consider it such a privilege and so much fun. Honestly, the hardest part, for me, the hardest part of filming all that was not laughing while we were doing it. Of course, really, really hard with while we were in the apartment and big sexy parrot over the Coronado apparent with a it was there. Like it's not Like so yeah, did it really say Ted f*****? It was there was. There were cues. Yeah. And it was You know, we did that go easy, it was most of the afternoon, I am trying to think but means all over on the couch and I remember just looking at him going I don't think I don't know how I am going to do this with her every time I had to look at Jarrett and that would happen all the time and you would think that when you know what the lines are going to be, it wouldn't be as funny, but it became funnier because you're like, how is he going to deliver this in Jarrett's? Brilliant at it. Anyway, Jarrett played Junior, a hockey. People don't realize a lot of them. I mean, you know, he's a big it's all relative, but How do you get to the NHL? It's the same. Honestly, Pete, that the players might be more talented, but in NHL dressing room, the same stuff, right? The same, certain cut type of guys, stir the drink, they play the music. There's trips going on, probably more in junior than there are in the NHL. There're stories every morning, you know everybody has a copy of your workout after your ride the way they could. It's very similar. Yeah though, it's all like it's a layup Jaret Wright sit. Yeah. From his own experience which is our own experience, right? And then we get to all do it together. So and it's almost when I say laugh, I also mean smile because you read it. I have done a lot of shows now at this point and specially crew and it often matches what you read. But it's always so much more colorful when we're doing our show because I think everybody brings their own Dynamic, and They're fun to work with. So when I am reading it, it's hard for me to even picture and I like that. I don't know what room were going to do it in. I don't know where we're going to be got all the lines memorized get in there in the morning and it starts taking shape and I love that. That's my favorite part of all of it. When I start to see something that I read, or I have memorized, and how are we going to do, this starts taking shape? But yeah, smiling and laughing. That's pretty much three quarters of every day. So I mean, I mean it's a dream job Terry you have been so generous with your time today, and we're at the top of the hour. So I want to be conscience of your time as well. Matt, did you want to ask your patented question before we can? I am going to do guys, I have no problem doing number two, my daughter for three weeks. If you want a pre-record, put it out in three months or whatever you want to do. But the next three weeks, I do have some time if you guys would like to, well, how do you get on? That will take you up on that offer, but Matt, go ahead. But I will ya quickly asks us to everyone that comes on. I mean, from our perspective, things like Letterkenny, Shore Z Our quickly become like big cult phenomenons that are spreading everywhere just from your perspective. What has it been like to simply be a part of it? And what does it meant to you? Like looking at it as a Canadian as a newfoundlander as a whole? Like what does it felt like to you to be horrible? Well, that's a great question, as well. First of all, the obvious I was working my way back. I was doing okay financially but it really was a boost it helped me get the house. I am sitting in here. Now Penny Lane wanted to live in Newfoundland you asked me about that made all that possible so it was a nice Financial boost. First of all okay just on the level s to be to play. Ted Hitchcock is a dream because when you when I played hockey again, 8th overall, the highest pick ever in the history of Newfoundland and Labrador. There's a lot of expectations key to the city parade. All that, right? And I would come back and people didn't understand and you know, it was a lot of nuances to what happened to me and it was almost like I was pitied or question everywhere. I went. Oh, Teri. What, what happened? And eventually I just wanted to go, you know, but I did play in the NHL. You played for the Montreal f****** Canadians, that's like playing for the New York Yankees. I mean, that's not told me that when I was 15 freak out. If you told me, I got one. If it is only three years later, two and a half years later, you get drafted and there's all this expectation. I get it. I know why it's there and I know why people would ask they were only being, but it was hard to even leave the house and go out for a drink or, or a bite to eat without people coming over and go, and they were but most of them are nice. But what are you doing? In Montreal. Now, by Ryan screwing, you over again, like it's always something and it was hard to escape from it and people didn't understand. But this is different. So that was a bit of a lonely time, even though sure. You're on a hockey team, you would think the opposite and you're all kinds of people behind you, but it was lonely because only, I knew what was happening. I am not an idiot aye-aye, there was a lot of going on a lot. You're playing for to get yours coaches, and there's cheese in there and there're places within the team and there're contracts. And there're all kinds of things that factor into why a player does or doesn't play, right? So but I don't have to deal with any of that. Now, what happens is that these people now are taking the ride with me. Yeah, I am representing all of them and I because Ted Hitchcock. Isn't me. It, there's a lot in common but it's not me. They, these people here are connected to Ted Hitchcock. Like I am I get to play them. Yeah, but he's a newfoundlander and if there's one thing Jared did say the beginning, he said, look, we're not ever going to laugh at tent like that's been done, and we're not doing that. So that's the other thing about the line stuck? Just make sure that in no way. Is he look like an idiot? We're not getting this new feed shoka. So, And people really respect that. I think that might have been what they thought that he was going to be the token newfoundlander that you know, just forgot to screw the light bulb and you know, and we Sorry Terry really quick at that just the way you just said checks, and I am not sure if it was Trevor risk. Alex said of someone at one point mentioned that Jared and Jake and all them if it ever felt like bullying, they are gone too far. Right? So will you just called out there about laughing with him and not? Add him? Yeah. Mines with that mentality. And yes. And when exactly, you know, how much of a difference, I didn't really think of it. But yeah, I mean, I went out last night on George Street and had a great time and people just all, that's all they want to talk about it. It's a privilege to be part of it. But yeah. They feel like they're taking the journey with me over by what steady up to now out Terry. But what, steady going to get up to and seasoned? Yes, quite right, I am like, I don't know man over them try to do my best job. Yeah, you know, and so I can kind of live outside myself live this adventure while There's a lot of metal reality going on, right? Like yeah. And a lot of people it's like this is wild like I do get to watch you on TV, just not in the way that you thought, right? So there's that going on. So I love that. I feel that I am on this journey that I am taking, and I am representing Newfoundland, and I am trying to do my best job. Whereas And all I have to do really is listened and listen to instruction, remember my lines and represent where there's so much up in the air when you're an axe at athlete. And going through, it doesn't feel like you're taking. It feels like for me. It felt like I was pressured to do a good job for those people. It didn't feel like I was on a ride with anybody, it was a lonely Journey, To be honest. And that's why I had my love all my journals. So I am an only child as well, it's why? So, and then the third thing, Is that I have been doing a lot of stuff for like spittin Chiclets and these appearances, you know, show up. I went to Rapid City a month ago, drop a puck. Do a live, Q&A went to Pittsburgh, Boston a couple times, Buffalo Vegas. So, just biggest was before sure, Z everything else was after. So say the last five or six months, I have gone to the US, I want you to Jersey say six or seven times. I mean, It's never happened before. There might be somewhere by fluke. I don't know. I am in like, Roanoke, and walk into her chapters or a bookstore. And someone says, how your, how are the Habs or would it be used to plan that like that might happen one in a million, right? But now everywhere Rapid City, I am having breakfast in Deadwood, the actual Deadwood right where Wild Bill Hickok was shot. I am having breakfast and people are in. They're gone man, I love the show. Pittsburgh It happened. When I was walking down the street, let alone the birds we went to. I mean, lots of people. Boston was like, yeah, you know, honestly, people were coming over and quoting the show. Like, I am talking going in and having a coffee in the morning at breakfast joints and stuff. Yeah. So you're, and I am when I say that, I am not saying I am famous, I am not saying that. That's what I am saying is that, I didn't realize how much Traction show had absolutely like it's one thing in Mount Pearl Newfoundland man but you know, I can see that but and you know so it speaks right how good the show is. The hockey shows are alienating anyway because it's hockey I lived in the state's it got its support system but as far as sports that are popular you know it's fourth of the four major and then I think I would put NASCAR and everything I had you know, all the oh absolutely. In the southern states, for sure. Way out of it. Yeah, it's got its following but, you know, I don't know if You were to sit there and say, let us write a hit show. You know if you had to bet, I don't know that I would have bet. Hockey would work. Maybe football. Friday Night, Lights or whatever. Yeah, but this is brilliant because it transcends, the sport, a it introduces, a lot of people to the sport and not only that like Canadian humor and everything is one thing. But, you know, I know, all kinds of people that watch the show that never skated in their life, that really can't name five players on there. Toronto Maple Leafs. But you know there's something about it and I think honestly what I think it is an especially after I watched it read one way when I watched it I am like man there's a hard to shore Z. There's a heart, there's an underlying like this guy's vulnerable. Yeah. Clearly. He lashes out. There's a lot of Comedy there but I can relate to shore Z as a person. I really can't. Just like, I can relate to Ted, but We have all played with or dealt with someone like Shore Z. Their bark is often worse than their bite and Often his vulnerability just listening to the anthem for example brings him to tears. So right like yeah and that is something and you know I mean he gives sanguine at s*** so much. Yeah. But there's a few times that ya know he only needs to do it a few times, but he let he lets his guard down a little bit and love sanguinetti. Don't leaves it a few times especially in the last episode I think is brilliant. One of the best episodes of TV that year agreed. So let us save some of that for round two because I have a whole bunch of questions around you just million guests are bed that we could talk. Man, do we could talk to you all? I know, next time, we will start with Shores and not worry about anything else. But Terry great job. We're on pins and needles. I mean, it's the worst-kept. Secret Shores. He's got to be picked up. Obviously they'd be idiots. Not to pick it up and your rep in here, Island, proud, you're up. And all of us proud, it's doing a great job. You got the two books, the podcast, which I am a listener, I listened to it twice a week with every episode you put out. I believe when I honestly can't believe that it's gotten to that point. I appreciate it so much and absolutely, I don't know what to say. I mean these are so listeners when I can do it, I do want a week, just on my own. I don't know why you listen but thank, you know, I kind of appreciate the one who weeks more than I because it gives us a window into what you're up to. I mean, some of the people you interview I am going to not gonna lie to you. I don't might not know who they are, but you, I want to know more about. Anyway, just share with our listeners where they can find your podcast and also where they can Follow you on social media? Yeah, sure. So my podcast is called Tales with TR. It's under the umbrella of the hockey podcast Network, Taki podcast Network, pretty much wherever you get your podcast at this point. Pretty much and it's great. They have basically one podcast per team in the NHL. They asked me to do Montreal and for that requires research and a lot of other things I didn't have time for. So they let me kind of do my own thing. Maybe three or four like that, but it's great, it's an interesting. Think. Yeah. Network to check out my Instagram, really? I mean, I am Terry Ryan 20 on Twitter. I don't use Twitter enough, I find it a lot, it's pretty poisonous. Yeah, agreed. Yeah, it's just, I like to engage with people, and it's the worst place to do it. I really did. Like I said, I like airports. I like going down tomorrow night. Tim seems a great night in Newfoundland. I am going to try a lot of people fan of the show, and I love that. I see a lot of friends, acquaintances, whatever people. I don't know. And I just love the and Twitter. I go into it every time naive thinking oh maybe this person wants to talk and it just turns into some crazy political b******* or poisonous talk. I don't like it but anyway, but I am on there. I stomach it but most of what I do ghosts or Instagram. Jessica 2020. If you need to follow me or what? I am up to her anything. That's the route. That's a perfect place host. And usually, I will probably be in a city near you soon because it seems last two years of traveling all over. North your everywhere, man. Yeah, man. All right, we will have to have, we will have you back on. I am going to play a soft now with this song from Shore Z, this one's called miserable Girl by soulwax. That's all we have for this episode. Don't forget to give our sponsored a box and copy some love day or a diabolical coffee.com. Right now, you can use the promo, code produce a 20% off, any purchase from their site. If you'd like, to support this podcast with us on iTunes Spotify or become a patron is a patreon link on our site or Twitter profile at produce and pod for us on Facebook, Instagram, Tick-Tock And Hive social. Now at produce a pod thanks for joining us. Now, we're going to go get Matt screeched in so Trapper John's were Italian. I got screeched in on behalf of Terry Victor, Matt Tania and myself. Thank you for listening and have a great week.
