S5E0.5: Dani Ellis
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The gang at The Produce Stand are joined by Dani Ellis, Art Director on Letterkenny.
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You're having thirsty Thursday with your pals the other day. Welcome to the produce stand. It isn't Thursday, Thursday, it is Monday. A podcast paying tribute to the Great Canadian show. Letterkenny now I know what you're thinking, there are many other podcast of Letterkenny out there, but this one is about to get some serious OverWatch street cred. I am Al your host and joining me in the room as always is a lovely 10. You and online, we have squirrelly. Matt the vibrant, Victor and joining us tonight is our special guest. She's known on Twitch as 0w grandma where she hosts and streams herself. Making art playing OverWatch and hanging out with her pet hedgehog, Sable, according to IMDb, sorry. According to IMDb she worked in the art department for films like high Chicago and a little bit zombie. And of course, she's the art director on Letterkenny. Please join me in making some noise. For Danny Ellis, wondrous home hello. What's no? Dad knows — come on, but that noises come from Victor. Matt and myself, let me go welcome. Welcome to the produce stand. Danny, thanks for having me. It's exciting to be here. All right, so where are you speaking to us from? Um, I am in Sudbury. Ontario Sudbury. So you live where you work? That's awesome. Is that where you're from? Originally, I was born in St. Marie, but I have pretty much been here since I was four so more or less born race. Very nice. How's the weather up there right now? Cold today but it's been really mild winter. All considering yeah, no, well last week's been pretty mild but today got pretty blustery. So, I mean you're obviously a very talented artist, and we're going to get to Letterkenny. But let us start kind of, you know, let us get you there. How did you get into graphic design for movies and television? Um, and that's kind of funny story too because they didn't tell me in college that this is this was even an option. I just kind of like fell into it because Matt Ellis, no relation that production designer on Letterkenny he's My brother-in-law, he's been in film for a very long time, he went to school for film, and he's pretty much worked in every Department in our department, and he got me my first gig on high Chicago. Just kind of by word of mouth so that was kind of getting my foot in the door and I really loved it. Because there were just so many different things that you don't get to bake working at traditional graphic design job like I have made cereal boxes, I have made countless beer labels Posters everything like it's just every day is a new thing which is great for me because I get bored really easily. So yeah, that's amazing. So you mentioned beer labels. So are you the one who designed poppers? Yes. So that was definitely a matte LS idea and then it's usually like I helped bring it to life kind of thing and it wasn't originally called puppers. So In film, we have to run everything by legal especially in terms of graphics and names. Sure, just to make sure it's not some learn anything else out there, and we're not going to get sued. So the original name for puppers was supposed to be Labrador, which is why the label is a beautiful golden lab, right? Right. And that didn't clear legal so being that were sitting there one day and just being like, man, what are we going to? What are we going to call this beer and were throwing names, back and forth? Usually like it's just a big brainstorming session. Um, and I was just like, what about puppers like, you know, like the memes, and he's like, oh my God, crushing poppers, he's like, that's pretty good. Yeah, so we put it to the team and everybody liked it and then it clearly goes so. So that's interesting. So it you guys pitched it first before it appeared on the show. Yeah. So the further you can see in season one that there aren't they usually just peered peeled off the beer. Labels there weren't really any beer labels in season 1 and then season 2 pi. Happened. And I feel like in season 1 they were drinking Gus and brew and there it didn't really mention, poppers know, exactly. Yeah, that's amazing. Well I mean we have a burgeoning beer Master on the crew here. Matt's just started with the home brewing so you may have a potential down that rabbit hole, you may have a potential client for little label art, one of these days I have got my name and then the back where it's already just going to work on the Brandon, once I figure out how to make beer character of your waist backwards. Yeah. Right. Starting with finding first and then build your product, right? Yeah. It can be s*** but if you have a good enough brand, you might be able to sell. So I mean, that's what we did for Peppers. So I have been to work. That's true. Yeah. And so what's the name of the brewery that makes or that made puppets? Stack? Strawberry daiquiri. They don't they have stopped Brewing, it, haven't they? I mean, they're, yeah. They're kind of small batch deal. Anyways, Surprised that they made it as long as they did. But that was really like that was wild to me because I mean I make fake stuff all the time but to see the see something like a made-up, beer become an actual beer was a little bit. It was a little bit insane, not to, not to get too inside baseball, but because it became an actual beer. Did you get any kind of different is there like a different kind of royalty that you get from that? Or is it just like a one shot deal? No, because we get paid on the job. So, Yeah. Yeah. I see well. So how did you get onto Letterkenny then? I mean, you say you're your brother-in-law was in the art Department. There is that was that your way in or so? He wasn't even on. I don't think he was on season one either, at least not in the art department. But I guess the original production designer and forces an art director, both the left the show from season one. Matt was brought in as a production designer. He must have had that he must have been on season one just not may be doing that specifically, and I was actually out of film for a few years, working a regular job, and he just calls me up some one day and was like Danny's like I have got a show he's like you really want to be on this show. He's like, I know you're not, you know, in any of the film unions or anything, but we're going to get you in the union and you're going to work on the show like okay I guess. II guess I trust you oh yeah go to steal right twister Rubber Arm so. But before that you did those two movies but this kind of your first TV show that you worked on, that's not true. Actually, I worked in French television for a couple years as well. Oh really, yep. Wait, what, what? What shows there is one limit of anvil was one of them and one was called satanic L, which was an interesting one. I am not sure if you have Seen TFO or anything like that. I mean I used to when I was on tour Channel 12, and we only had 13 channels. Yes I would have been forced to watch, so she if there were cartoons on TF open or else, that's probably where I would have watched French TV amazing that he has written some similar roles on kind of these various Productions, or has it been kind of variously progressing. Pretty much only been graphics on most of the show's aside from being like a trainee, a few times. So just let us in a little bit in terms of like an example of a project that you're working on like is that still Graphics is that kind of things that you see in the background, is it actual shots like what's involved For me, usually it's just any anything that needs to be kind of made so it could be anything from labels. Any of the logos for the hockey teams if we're talking Letterkenny, any signage even just paper, crops like if you have ever worked on a cop show, you have to make so much paperwork. It's ridiculous. Like it just your there late putting together like, Crime, files and photographs and just like handwriting stuff and it's, it can be very multi-layered. It's very, very cool. But also very, very like time-consuming sometimes because it's all the small details, right? The little things that catch your eye, but you don't always realize you're looking at and then you're like, oh, that's such a small important part of that scene. That's, that's their right for sure. And like it and what someone had to make that? Like, I am always, you know, when I watch TV, now it's totally different because I am just like, oh man, they clearly Slapped a label on this to like hide of logo that they didn't want to rank, or didn't realize they had to make that's found in general, like, I have to quit glass, so I know there. There's, there's like you mentioned legals and, and when it comes to Art and Graphics, I am sure there's this fine line and times when you have to, either a, you have full freedom to create whatever you want or potentially, does it layer and sponsorships that time? And are those targeted places? Well, within scenes, like, how does that whole dynamic work when you're creating things? It's interesting too because sometimes in the script, it will mention something that is like specifically a brand. So we do have to make like connections with people to try and either get permission. Or if we can't get permission, then we realize like you know, we might have to do something else, they're like, you know, mentioning Instagram, Facebook, usually, social media is extremely difficult to get permission for. So you have to like budget or you have to not even show it at Because they have so many strict rules about how it needs to look. That it's almost just not worth it. Oh I almost got excited there because but you said you didn't work in season one so you wouldn't have designed fart book. Then know, I had, I had no hand in Africa, but unfortunately it's too bad. So, I mean, you mentioned like, some of the stuff that you might not normally assume needs design work, but I mean I am and I brought this up to you on your stream last yesterday, but one of the scenes that come to mind, where we absolutely are. You could absolutely see the hand of graphic designer or art director, is that cold open for the Easter episode? I mean, and you'd mention that. Yeah, that was you guys kind of flex on that one. So you want to like talk about a scene like that. And what part of that scene? Are you involved in? Like, specifically the Easter episode or yeah, back, hold the open where it's like, it's Dairy, and he's painting the eggs, but he's got like a little notebook and there're like notes scribbled in. I mean, I am sure you guys had a lot of fun, like, putting that together, right? And I am sure I don't know how much, how much say you have in the composition of the shots or anything. I mean, it was just a very different-looking seen compared to anything else we have seen on. Letterkenny how much of that is director. How much of that is like the art Department working with the director? I would say, I mean, Jacob definitely dictates you know, how shots look and how he wants it to look. And I think we all kind of had this idea that was supposed to be slightly creepy. So it was definitely. Yeah, everyone, everyone was meant to, like, make things like, the nails holding the little egg, like, Dustin in props, you had a lot of fun making that and, you know, we're all kind of working in a similar space. So we have that communication back. Fourth where, you know, we drift off each others ideas which is really nice and like the, the notes, the creepy notes. Like I think we had the training at the time, like redo them several times because they looked too deep need it first. So we're like, no, no, like do with your left hand or like, try and try, and draw it in a mere like something to make it look less like coherent, because you're not really supposed to be able under understand its. But what's it's really, really fun. What sort of direction? Do you get from Jacob for that? He's like, I need to sign. Need a creepy intro scene and there is going to be painting Easter eggs and that's it? And you guys kind of run with that or what kind of detail do you get from him? It depends. Like we usually go through like as a group, the entire scripts, right? At the start, and we go through any important details, any questions, and sometimes they can be really, really specific with requests and sometimes it's, you know, really open, and they just kind of give you a general idea. But there's a, there's a lot of trust, especially You know, it's a pretty tight-knit group. We have been working together, seven, reels years now. So I would say there's a lot of trust which is pretty awesome to just like, have that creative freedom, and we pitch, you know, ideas them for names and things all the time. So yeah, it's really awesome. Yeah, and that's great. Me, that sounds I know we talked to Patrick Plywood And Amy Kate rev, and they both kind of had that same Vibe as well, that there really is. I mean, there's clearly a Direction the show. But there's that creative freedom and that this cohesiveness of the group that I went to says trust and, and it's great to hear that. That same message is coming across. Even down the art Department. I like it's really a refreshing feeling because it comes through in the show and that's, that's a great feeling as well, like just especially because the fan base is, I would say it's like a cult following but sometimes, just like, I won't people. Yeah. It's a fair statement. Know, it's a cult for sure, just think people notice Little details that you like you throw in but you don't ever expect anyone to see because like whatever but like they do see it like sometimes it's just like, oh my God this one thing. So it was all with that is there, here's a good question for you. Are there any Danny Ellis signature things that you do that? Like if we saw the big oh that was Danny's work right there. Or did you kind of just evolved? Like I know I think of the animation world, and they have that, what does that classroom? A 13. Oh yeah. Right. You know talking about? But I mean, is there some things like that? That's your sort of trademark or maybe there isn't. But the things you try to do specifically that could make little nods to things. I mean we try not to I guess because we don't want to like bring people out of the world I mean as a mercy because you can be in a show like Letterkenny. Um I don't we try and do different stuff all the time while you know sticking with kind of the overall theme. Just that like layered humor that doesn't necessarily hit you over the head with it just kind of exists and is funny that way, so I don't know for me it's just I am an illustrator, so I insert a lot of illustration into my designs you know misfire a lot of the skid artwork. I think this get our work is some of my favorite stuff to do because we Flex on it, we try and make it different every single season like you know rolled is evolving. And you know, his art is different every season that On what he's going through and thinking of that as fun. Like, that's not written to into the script, we're just kind of like what's rolls head space like this season. And, you know what kind of crazy art can we make with that? Like, when it was a nice big drawing of rolled on the wall, in the last episode? We watched and I feel like that looks like, you may have drawn, something like that, it's in their kind of Hideout. And, and what's the episode? The one where I Glenn come is At the Easter episode where, yeah, Glenn shows up because he's doing his Passion Play, and he enrolled have a moment and behind roll, there's like a big kind of Life-Size drawing of him on the wall, or something like that. Do you have anything to do with Alan? Is that the painting? Yeah, the like the really yeah, that was, that was definitely a like we had some extra time that block and Matt was just like, you know what, here's a canvas. I want you to make some kind of art that roll band, and I was just like, all right, how about some kind of like Pablo Picasso style craziness, and he's like, cool, do it nice. And I spent an entire afternoon doing that and it was like, no one said knew we were doing this. It just kind of showed up and I wish I had been there to see Evans face because I heard that he loved it. Oh yeah. Um, so yeah, that was really getting like just seeing it in that shot after was awesome. Yeah. So even on that same thought, I mean it sounds like that was pretty sight. But do you have any like moments or additions? That you have given each other? You're like, particularly proud of or even excited when you saw them or just to be a part of that particular scene or moment, there's so many. It's hard to pick. It's hard to pick. I was really excited about Indian energy, the season. I know we're not quite like talking about that brand. Yes, okay, yeah. So yeah. But they haven't gone ahead. I am the only one who's watched season. It's all good. We will look forward to it. But so, you know, there's so many seasons between nine and where we are now. So yeah. Whatever you say. Yeah, don't worry. And our listeners have already watched this show like 10 times over, so, Although be excited, no matter what you say. Yeah. That they're like, give us more we, right? I know, I know their brand. You're talking about that, that energy drink. And so you created that, you had a hand in creating that one. Yeah. Yeah. That was based on, you know, bro. Dude. And then that's pretty cool. So, go ahead, Victor. I was just going to. I want to make sure we have a chance a little bit to learn about kind of your artistic Journey. If you will, you know, I have been perusing. Your some of Or art on the art station site and, you know, it's just super incredible inspiring. I have got a daughter who's 19, and she is an aspiring artist and trying to figure out what she wants to do with the rest of her life. She's finished one year of ocad and obviously she's on pause right now and just trying to figure out what do I want to be doing? Would be an artist. I want to be a teacher, do I want to be? What the heck, do I want to be and wondering like if you could kind of give us a bit of a background to You know, was this was, you know, what was your passion before school? How you decided to go school and then afterwards how you figured out what you want to be when you grow up, that's a really, really great question and it's a big question too because I was really into drawing comics and a painting when I was in high school and I went to really art specific, high school was a public high school, some prosecco. Every school and the last year, they allowed us to basically, I was in an independent art program, and they let us build our own curriculum, which was really fun. And I was actually supposed to go to York University for Fine Arts. But I chickened out I bailed because I was really scared an of living in Toronto because big scary City, but to I was scared, it was going to kill my passion for making stuff that I like to make because I would seen it happen to a lot of my friends who had gone to Art School. Yeah. So I ended up writing a big essay to my parents being like I don't want to go, and this is why, and I am going to go take graphic design because it will be more like Real World Knowledge. Yeah. And I did that and I actually took to it really well because it I don't just go by and a lot of the skills that I already had and gave me some real life kind of experiences of like how I could apply my art too. In a marketable way. And it turns out I am not I don't feel particularly good at the, you know, stereotypical corporate design. So I kind of lucked out in my life path that I discovered, that this is like and like film is so big up here in the north right now. Like there's so many different Productions and it's even bigger now because like covid isn't as hot up here. So they're not filming as much internment of their coming up here because it's a lot safer, right? Right. There's just there's a lot of work and I get painted like I will get ping by like five different shows when I am already working on one. So there's definitely, there's definitely room for this kind of thing and you would have more space to do really cool stuff and illustration. And like I said things, you wouldn't normally get to do in this line of work. So I would recommend if you're, if you don't mind working hard, it's really, really rewarding. Yeah, I mean, it's fantastic stuff. I mean, I Now, I have heard that a lot kind of Victor touching. We touch on their doubt, Danny around. Yeah, the passion and don't want to brew our blow the creativity out of you. But I mean from your perspective is staying on that same artistic topic. What where is your? I mean you do the amazing work and Letterkenny but you obviously do lots of other things. So what is your real passion? What are things that you really find your happy place and wouldn't artistically. I think it's people like I really like doing especially when I do Commission Doing portraits of people and just like seeing the reaction to my usual portrait style is sort of. Like I take people and kind of like a superhero eyes them in a way. Like I take some aspect of their personality and I just crank it up to 11 when express that to them and usually, I will pitch an idea, and they will you know, don't usually go for it, and we just go and it's really fun. Awesome. So I see season 10 is going to be shooting soon. We from everything that Jacob told us, do you already have, you know, scripts, you know, I am not asking you to divulge any company Secrets, but you already have kind of like marching orders or any kind of assignments for to prepare for season 10. Not usually no, you just show up and hit the ground running so there's no pre-work, Indian, no pre-work. You start when everyone else starts? Yep. Interesting people. Start a difference. Different times. But yeah, so you mentioned your art Department, your team, your Titan, a teen you want to shut any of them out. How big is the team for Letterkenny? Oh, it's pretty big and it depends on like, you know, there's a lot of the office people and then like all of the crew. So there's so many people like I don't know if I would be able to shout them all out, I don't want, but usually upset. Anybody finally, for leaving them to feel left out General love, I mean, obviously shout out to Mandela's, you know, he's our, he's our fearless leader in the art department, and He is just the best at giving enough direction that we know we're doing but trusting us enough to do it and that's been really great, so he's really good at and inspiring as at the right times and being really reasonable and if we have an idea of how something could work better or be less complicated, he's usually down or down. To give us an even better idea. So that's pretty awesome. Some of the He's, I have worked with Ruby Gibson and Sabine both been really great, they produce great work and you know, no complaints here. So yeah, I think I know the answer to this but who do you, who do you work more with Jacob or Jared? I mean it's just, you know, jarrod's created the show but Jacobs the director. So I imagine that he's the one who's more in contact with the art Department. Actually, no, no, usually, I am sending all my designs to Jared, really. So he and he's very Hands-On when it comes to even the look of the show, I will for sure. And there are certain things that, especially, I think the hockey teams are really close to his heart. So, well, that means he's pretty, he's pretty particular about his hockey stuff. So it's awesome. Everything runs by that guy and what is that Dynamic around? I mean you keep mentioning the office and I think a lot of people don't ever fully click that there's a Background operation going on with Productions of any size and I know when I think Al you post something and you said you were on site or on set that day for the Sashimi is episode. But like how often do you get the opportunity to be on set and what is that like? Yeah. Just like how often. And what is that? What is that, like? So it's always really exciting when I get to go to set, sometimes I will go. If I know I have like time which is rare but It happens. And sometimes you just want to go see a particular set because it's different or exciting or sometimes there's something I need to do there like either sometimes it's photos. Sometimes it's like the gym has that chalkboard that we usually fill out with drawings. That's always fun. Being able to do any of the one with the Beautiful Mind One. Yes, the beautiful. Mine winner. I was just that Really fun day. That was an extremely, extremely entertaining data, be on set, but, and of course, the giant penis as well. Oh, and the unskilled do we do it, did you really need an art Department to draw a giant penis on the map though? I think that was just that was probably just Stewart like Tyler. And Tyler knows that was all Tyler. Yeah. The giant penis at Matt tanyon managed too not? Yeah, and I think on the Oh, Beautiful. Mind, chalk drawing. Like we obviously planned it out before we went there and just kind of really quickly in about 5 to 10 minutes but there was a little drawing of Shores. Well there's a little drawing of like a cake equals like an around person. And I think it was I can't remember if it was her Z or Someone one-on-one of the to one of the two definitely, Drew store Z equals fat inside that, like, I think, I think he asked us ahead of time if he could do it more like a man. Go for it. Awesome, that's awesome. So, what are, you know, what are some of your favorite? I don't know. Episodes are scenes from Letterkenny, you're obviously a fan of the show, I hope. I mean, I would say, and that's a tough one because there are just so many good ones Oh man, what see what season are you guys? What's wrong for? But you know, you can go ahead and name something Beyond. We don't expect you to remember exactly what are you saying? Yeah. We're about to start the season five. I would say lace. Hicks is like one of my favorite episodes, you have just become a lot. You Matt's favorite person, that's what. Yes, you're the third person to validate me on this one. So here we that's a good. So whose idea was it? That's about as she worked on those french toast. Yeah. Well, I was gonna say. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Whose idea, was it to make the French Hicks wear blue. You know, like was that somebody's a definite idea? Was it like the Jacob or Jarrod already had that in mind? I mean like both of them live, I think in Montreal, so they are probably pretty close to French culture in a lot of ways, so I am sure it was I am sure it wasn't like it combined idea because Ginger is Pretty good. She's our costume designer. Ginger is really good at research and picking out those little details. Like it's, it's on like the thought she puts into clothing. Alone is just like mind-boggling to me. She's absolutely brilliant. Yeah, it's interesting Wayne's. Got a checkered shirt for every occasion, he wears green Checkers for St. Patty's Day and red Checkers for, I guess Christmas and so on, and so forth. So, that's all. I mean, you guys put a lot of thought into that, right? Oh, yeah, I am pretty sure that Wayne has all over like 100 unique flannels. At this point, probably close to 200 at this point. I am not entirely sure. But like, even the, the, the season when Riley and Jonesy are like broken up because Katie's dating one of them. Yeah. And ginger just had them dressed in like the most somber, like, tone down colors compared to their usual wardrobe because they were sad. I was like, man. I was like, I hope somebody notices that and then when they're back together, they're back. And they're like, really colorful clothing. I just think, I just think, that's so great. Ya know it, I mean, it sets a tone even if it's kind of, you know, subliminal it's still, it's still, you know, important to do. What are your favorite characters? Who are your favorite? I know your beer. Work with everyone. So you don't want to favorite anybody, but is there any well, you're not asking favorite actor? You're sure. Yeah, character. So I think you have raised this wrong. I think the way to phrase it is who is your favorite character and why is it Tanis? All right. Now you're my favorite. All right. Good. She seems anyone. She seems like, she's just the whole package. Just such a powerful character. You know what I mean? Like, Like I can't say enough good things about tannaz. I heard somebody wrote Somewhere that there should be a spin-off. Probably awesome. Probably said that they should be a tennis spin-off show. I would be a hundred percent down for tennis, but I will show that would be. That would be amazing. Yeah. And that's why Tanya. And I both weren't crazy about that. Episode Were Gay. The girl that was with the kids. Yes, she took a Power Trip on tanith are, and I am Bo Instagram a little bit, sugar up a little bit. Actually, you know, interesting because you know, you don't see Tanis shaken very often. I really liked that scene because it showed that gay can isn't somebody to be trifled with, because she was able to go toe-to-toe. Tennis, I thought that said more about gay and less about tennis. But yeah, yeah. But then she was also scared of this Karen. I don't know. Yeah, it was there're layers there for sure. It's an onion. It's an onion Victor tonight. Yeah, can we take a site again, fascinating? So I am just kind of interested in it. Typically, the you go digital, do you do to kind of traditional with you know, with, you know, pens and whatnot and just kind of take us into your world a little bit of what, you know, we require your passion is and what your experiment was now you for sure. I would say like I used to be Hardcore. Like I would do everything sketches before I would digitize it, and I still do that for some things. Like there are some things that just like nothing beats the texture of a pencil and paper and just some of that energy that you can get, from being really sketchy. But I do primarily do a lot of my painting in digital format either Photoshop. Or, I have recently discovered procreate, and I say this as someone who hates Apple products usually, but It on the iPad is bomb and it's one of those things that actually mimics the pencil. Close enough for me, that I find it really fun to sketch in that program interested. But yeah, if I thought you were one of the few graphic artists, I know who don't swear by Mac or apple. I know. I know. It's just my daughter uses the surface, and she uses a pen, and she creates a lot of her digital art. That But she loves the sketch and then digitize it as well as the very interesting technique and it's just if you know the digital just let you take in places that you could couldn't necessarily I guess you could but it just opens up all these layers and dimensions that you can end, the fact you could use layers right layers and like adjusting things are like you can make a new layer and like try something. If it doesn't work, you just delete it and you go back and yeah. Yeah, it's wonderful. There's just so much you can do with it. So I really like, do you ever dabble and animation at all? Not this. I have. It's like usually just like small like animated gifs and things like that, but I tend to be more like I do. I love the comic format, I love storyboarding and things like of that nature. Just capturing moments is really cool. Speaking of comics, I noticed that there was a teaser to a comic on your site but I hit a brick wall without one. So we're just wondering, is there a comment that you have done or working on what's going on there? There is, there was one in progress, a call. It was called The Dream argument, and I had a website, there's the dream argument.com, but my hosting ran out, and I was trying to switch it over to new hosting and the old host ate all of my data. So I have to rebuild the entire site and I haven't gotten around to doing, hopefully, you have got everything backed up, though. Oh yeah, I have all the pages. It would just be like, I need to rebuild the site now and It's a whole thing. Well, you got to get it done because I am invested. Yeah. Oh, nice. Okay, well, we got a fan, so I gotta get that back up. Absolutely. If you need services to help the website, be rebuilt, owl and I can help. Yeah, very cool. Yeah. I mean, I work I am currently working at a design firm so well that I do. I do have a small ant. I do have a small Edge there slowly some not like completely in the dark. It's just kind of pain in the butt. That's all. I think I would say, does what up to Victory. I was just saying I was, I was just simply saying, get er done. Yeah, you gotta get it better, it will get under it out, figure it out. So I know you say you don't spend a lot of time on the set, but can you think of any fun stories of being on the set that you can share with us? Hmm, it's probably going to be Leagued at the gym. That's probably one of the days that I remember the most with the, I don't know if you're there yet, but the rapid reps at the roids versus Ritz. Yeah. Just because how they ended up, splicing that together was just so funny because it was based on the fact that they kept messing up their lines, because they were, they were Can do fast and you know when you like you get to a certain point, your mouth is dry. And like you're just kind of tripping over your words and you just kind of keep making the same trip up, and that's kind of what was happening. And like we were, we were just crying from laughing so hard and like feeling so bad for like they were just they were getting mad at H at themselves for the line split end up, being way funnier. Yeah, what happened? So, just kind of accident like, happy accidents, like that are always just amazing. Yeah, we heard that has to happen a lot on this show, like, they're the love. The dialogue is so heavy. It's heavy. It's just so complicated, and just listening to, it is hard to follow. Sometimes I can't imagine trying to spit it out in on camera and sequence. Like Playfair, had to deliver all those lines with one of his ass cheeks out of his shorts there. I watched closely. Yeah. Then you had to pause it because she was missing some of the lines I think. Yeah, that's probably why I can't remember if Dylan just did that, or if it was like a direction Choice, it probably was a little bit of both. I think he probably did it and Jacob was like, yeah, do that again. Yeah. Is perfect for no reason. It was perfect for so long. Yeah. And they're like, and it's stuff like that. Like that, it's just a lot of people on the show are not shy. Like usually you get like closed sets and things like that. Because if it's a sensitive thing, you know, they usually try and limit whose onset. Sure. But for the most part, people are pretty open, like the, the Jared handstand in the shower scenes, there is probably a closed set, right? Quite actually don't know. I am actually, I am not really sure. What kind of funny story? I remember. And like sometimes I read the read it because it's very amusing. The Letterkenny read it. Sure. And there were people who thought that was a body double. Oh yeah. Well, and I am like, I am like why? Like, why would they, they make all of Jared's tattoos to make people believe it was Jared rather than just have dared do it? Well, it's funny because Jared comes off as such a private kind of unassuming person. I mean, you hardly ever see him do any Media or anything like that, and Just for him to drop trou and get, you know, do a handstand in the shower. And yeah, I mean it's fun. It's also running joke in a lot of the Reddit and Discord and stuff so people I don't know if it's people making fun of newbies or not but saying, did you know that Shore Z is Jared? And I mean, obviously it's the same person but it's a good way to spot who, you know who the new fans are? Yeah. For sure. I mean like, you gotta Figure it out eventually just yeah it's one of those things. So when you're not working on Letterkenny or streaming over watch, what else you, I mean, you already mentioned you work at a design firm so do you kind of do graphic design for that firm? What else do you do for fun? I know, I mean, video gaming, you got an impressive set back there. We see that and, you know, tell us a little bit about what else you do for fun. Um, I mean, aren't video games? Covers a lot of it before. Covid-19 thing actually was in roller derby for about eight years, really? Oh, a whole art series is dedicated to that I do. Yeah. Because a lot of people like wanted me to draw the roller derby personas. So, there's its basically an in roller derby. You typically have a derby name, instead of like, your real name. So you come up with some kind of like her. Sona that you kind of adopt on the track and you just kind of feel like awesome and Powerful. So a lot of people wanted me to draw their Derby Persona. Are you are always you? Anyways, your yeah. What was your? I mean to you soon as you started, what was your persona? Yeah, it was Wonder Woman case. Yes, hi, I love that Libra. That zebra the guy in the zebra Persona that was crazy. Oh nice. Yeah. That was one of the refs for sure we used to work. So with somebody who was a former roller derby that's wrath leader or enthusiasts hurt, I won't give her name, but her nickname was ice pick. So I don't know if you are familiar with anyone named ice pick? I don't think so, but there's some good ones out there. Well, and how are you not? So, you're familiar with the hiring not podcast, right? Yeah, Angeles is his wife. For partner. Tiara. She's a former roller derby for a former athlete, athlete's Predator competitors. Well, yeah, so there seems to be that Venn diagram again of wrestling fans, butter, candy pans. And now roller derby fans are in there to the third circle and there's like an overlap in the middle there, but that's really cool. I didn't know that. Yeah, how do you find your? I mean, I always curious. Like, how do you find your way to roller derby? Like what? Like what's what I end up in Sudbury. Is it a big thing up? And so, Saint Maries ID, your from I got is, is there an active roller derby League up that way? Like, what, like, how did you find your way into that? And that's Sport and what came first, the violence or the roller skating? I don't think I was never very good at sports growing up. So I don't know how I became good at roller derby, but essentially, a few people I knew. You were in roller derby, but like, and this is actually someone, who is her name is Christina. Is she worked Craft on Letterkenny for many years, but she's like an Amazon woman? Like she's tall and beautiful. And like, she's like, you have to come and watch this and I went and it was amazing. Like, it's so fun to watch, and she's like, you should play. I am just like, um, I am 53 and like 120 pounds like I will die, like I will probably He just like be murdered, and so I kept going to games and then I started volunteering at games like doing scorekeeping and this and that and like there's only so long you can do that before you just want to strap on a pair of skates and hit someone that's fun. So yeah I just I tried it and I just never looked back that's awesome. Yeah it is great. So okay so you see keeps court, so I know nothing about this. I mean I have seen it on TV. It is it a night? Actual competition though. Or is it like WWE's like predetermined? Like how do you keep score? How close and resemblance though is the TV stuff that we watch versus the real job. There's that too most of the TV's like lipid is, it's not quite like that cuz that's definitely a little bit more over-the-top wrestling and like there are a lot like it's a high speed like high, contact kind of sport. So a lot of rules are surrounding like safety because you want to be able to hit people but you don't want to like hurt. Because no one really in the crowd likes to see an injury. I have seen a compound fracture from a roller derby game and I don't ever want to see that again, I can't imagine rough day in the rank. Yeah, just a little bit that was roller con when I went to Vegas for roller derby convention. But basically roller derby is a bit like hockey except instead of a puck you are the puck So there's usually a 5-under par 3, then your, yeah, exactly. There's usually five people on the track from each team. Four of them are blockers and then one of them is Jammer. So the Jammers the one that can score points and essentially have to fight your way through the blockers of the enemy team to go around the track. Once you have broken through them once, when you come all the way around, again, each block, are you pass by the hips? That's a point that you score. Oh, okay. Specific by the hips and our people out to lbu and ahead, as you know, there's no clotheslining, there's no tripping, there's no, like, you're not even allowed to have with my life. Yeah, that's what exactly is no. It's, that's very, very legal. You would probably be ejected from an entire game for doing that. So I would not recommend, it's not like hockey at all. So, how long was your roller derby career? Are you still doing it? I mean, I would still be doing it if we could, but there's kind of proximity right issue? Is it like the most, the most we could do last year was just skate outside and just it was just basically working on skates because we can actually get anybody because we can get close enough to do anything like that. So, so, once the pandemic, once a pandemic is kind of over you'd go back, I would probably go back. Oh, yeah. For sure. Awesome. That's amazing. Speaking of injuries. I will have you suffered any Order be injuries or you have been pretty lucky. So far, I have been pretty lucky. I do have like a bum knee from. Basically, it wasn't even a like the big hits that you see where you go flying. Those are fine. I have never been hurt by one of those where you have one thing is them? I have experienced them. Yes, I have almost flown into the crowd on occasion, but the ones that are the one that this one that hurt. I actually just tripped and fell on my hands and knees. And then someone on my team kind of fell on top of me and push down. I just felt my knee pop and like everyone skated by, and I was just, I was still on the ground and the ref was like, are you okay? I am like, no. He's like, can you stand up? I am like, no, probably not. And he was like, okay. So they usually like once you're down for more than 20 seconds, they call off, it's Jam. Every. Every you go around 42 minutes unless a Jammer can take Jimmer can cancel it. Yeah, he just called it off. So not put me off. I think that was, that was like a week before my wedding, too. So that was not great. All right. So you have look are. So, you have hung, I have one fear and it was that's amazing. Is it? So is it like hockey where you do you have to pay to play in this league or did it get, do you get paid? How does that work? Don't get paid. You definitely pay dues. And that's to help, you know, cover your practice space, and, and helps, you know, money towards like is hosting a game cost money up front. You do make someone some money back. But yeah, I think it's like it's no worse than a gym membership, really? So you phrase it, no worse than a gym membership. Well, I can term of in terms of cos you know like I think it kind of good life membership is like way more expensive than what I was paying for Derby and I get way better. Workouts at roller derby. So I have got a little aggression, aggression, daily aggression out as well. Oh, for sure, there's actually like a certain kind of personality that we tend like graphic designers, nurses, and like, peanuts. W's tend to be like our top three like careers that I found in Ruby today, you could have gone into rolling. There we go. Yeah, PSW back in the day. Yeah, just a lot of like, frustration that you can vent at work, that you just need an outlet for think that's what it is. Cosplay is also big amongst. That group is that something that you have ever dabbled in or not specifically, like, I have done, I have done costumes of like I did the, I have done the Fifth Element, both of leeloo. Dallas has outfits from that movie, just things like that. But nothing anything like super hardcore. All right, well when we announced that you're coming on, we had some we put our feelers and question for questions for you from our Twitter, DM group. I have got a few here, this one you from somebody you probably know what do you mean? It's not awesome. I think you might recognize the name and I know that I am a little bit. Her question is canned I please buy a who's a good beard poster? It's not on the web store so who do I talk to make that happen? So please explain first what's the who's a good beer and yes maybe how can she get one? So I think that I think what she's referring to is the sort of retro Style puppers with the golden lab that's sitting there and there's a hand coming down to pet the good boy, which is like one of the first I think puppers posters that we put our there and there's been quite a few since then there's kind of little pepper Shrine in Bodines three so it is good one and I wish I had control over the merch but I do not, so I Can't promise that they will be a poster that's available but I can put it out there right and C so that's a good point. There is a Letterkenny merchandise site that you can go to. What is it Letterkenny TV? Is that I think father carried on TV? Yeah. Which I know. Awesome knows about. But yeah, she's probably, she's probably trying to get an inside track on her own. You know? Your powers of influence. Yeah, exactly. Or you can just tell us Um, to wait, that's right. Yeah, are we going yeah our friend Stephen he already had. I mean some of these are already answered to. What's her inspiration? Her inspiration. How collaborative is it? Personal favorite episode? You have answered most of these questions that she sneak things into Letterkenny for family and friends like subtle nods. And I think, I mean, Matt, you kind of already asked that, but so, is there anything you could like, any Easter eggs, you can kind of give us of something, you might have, maybe not. Again but you know, because we don't want to get you in trouble but you know that you yeah it's always been with permission. Like there was the one episode I think it was the one of the ones with gay where they're playing a retro-style video game on the screen and you actually like see it and obviously, we couldn't, we could get permission from like Nintendo to use anything, you know, recognizable. So that was actually a video game that was created for like the Northern Ontario. Like gaming challenge. I think it was my friend of mine and it was called the Frozen dungeon Saga. So, I was like, oh, this is a retro looking video game. Would you guys mind if we use in Letterkenny? And they're like, well obviously, yeah, that's amazing. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it looked, it looked fantastic. So it really worked out well. Another listener called not Hannibal Lecter. She asks, is it weird to ask what make model and type of Machinery owns and Wayne owns and operates for Science? And I had to ask her to clarify because I wasn't sure what she was meaning by that, she means the tractor. What is it? Is it large imposing? And I want to get to know it better again. I am not sure what ever she's going with them. I do you know where she's going with that? I am not entirely sure that's a first. So maybe we can talk this way. The form that they shoot most of the scenes in is a working farm, right? Apparently, the oldest working farm in Sudbury, the tractor shed where they do some of those scenes? I mean, is that all on the same Farm? Armand. Is that? Like that's just the tractor? That's their rights. Not like Letterkenny. Put a tracker. There has a John Deere deal with know everything. Yeah. Everything's already there. And it was. Yeah. Working farm. And then, you know, we, the first few seasons, they shot it in the actual house that's there. And then later we didn't want to keep, you know, displacing the elderly couple that live there. So it's a set now. So that's pretty cool. And I don't know if people have noticed That changed because it's the reproduction is honestly, it's wild. It's like to have seen you know in person and then like the set. It's extremely cool. Interesting. So all those interior kitchen scenes are on a rebuilt set but I mean anything outdoors 0 is still at that farm. The all right? Any others are definitely still at the farm interesting, but you can just better know that it's a Dear John Proctor. Yeah, I think maybe she's just wanted to hear me. While asking that question, I wish them many happinesses I guess. I think she's going to Be Our Guest next week or in a couple of weeks she's have to dig a little deep, so we will ask her then what she meant by that. We want to elaborate the story. There she's one of our Patron, so she's gonna come on for season 2 episode 5 to do to as one of our panelists, so we can ask her then what she meant. Maybe, we will have to have it. You back on to re-ask, the question just like it. All right, it's time for our speed questions. These are meant to be just answered off the top of your head. Don't have to think about it, just whatever comes to mind you ready? No pressure. No pressure. Okay, let us go. They're easy. Here we go. Coffee or tea? Coffee Tim's ra Starbucks. Neither. Okay, so where would you get your coffee? I just make it. Oh, yeah. So that's grimy brittle star. He's, he said he was a, he was a bit more of a cafe guy, because he lived in Stratford. So, yeah, that's, you know, there's no wrong answer. Their cats are dogs. I know you have got a, you have one of each. Don't you? I had a cat. She passed away last year. Oh, but definitely both or hedgehogs, all three, all of the above anything animal. I pretty much like, So do give it a give a shout out to your hedgehog. What's his name again? Or her name? Her name is sable and I mean I will disable she's less than a year because I only got her I think June last year, and she was a baby. So a Hedgehog's. An interesting pet. You don't often hear. A lot of people with hedgehogs. What why? Like what was the idea there? I follow a lot of hedgehogs on Instagram, which sounds ridiculous, but it's true. Follow her Danny, and they're just extremely cute. And like you said, they're kind of interesting, and we weren't ready to get another cat yet but I wanted something that would be kind of just chill on my lap. Why do you work so? And so does it do anything like, does it? Can you teach it at Rick's, it's a teach her trick? Sorry, I missed. I don't want to Respectful, can you teach her tricks or something? I don't think so. They're, they're a very funny animal, and they're, they're just kind of clumsy and nocturnal and yeah, but just the facial expressions, are super cute, and they are cute. You know what our daughters. Always wanted an animal and unfortunately Tanya is allergic to anything with fur. So I am wondering maybe a hedgehog. Maybe we should look at sock isn't Ferrari, is it? It's Billy's. Pray there. Ellie's are furry but that's about it. I don't need to be allergic to it. Necessarily it go. Let us go Hedgehog. But yeah, there's this genetically predisposed to just being around, right? Yep. They're like enough avocado. Basically depending on age. So, Hedgehog is most comparable to something? It's a caged (animal) than is it? Or does she run? Does she have run around of the house? Knows that I can actually. Okay. Yeah, got a playpen. Yeah it's got a little playpen. I have recently upgraded initially was just a clear bin that was like her starter package. It just like a clear bin, and she's quite big now. So she knew a little bit more space, so we have this. Now we are basically a caged animal. Yeah. Like in the they will run on a wheel at night, and they're, like I said, they're nocturnal, they will wake up if you kind of pull them out and handle them further. But we had them in our house growing up, and they're more of a realist, badass ver. Yeah. They're awesome. They're more of a badass version of a hamster. Like they got the spikes on the back. Pretty chill. They run on the wheel is still drinking in the do all things have to, but they have this really awesome spiky coat that you can just keep at one way, only one way, and ya know, they're awesome. So I can confirm on that one. Just saying, so they're still cuddly and everything. He still high can be adding thing. Yeah. As long as you, they need to be handled regularly like usually taking them out, like once a day and make sure that they know your scent and that, you're a safe thing, that's not going to eat them. And then, yeah, they get you pretty adventurous. Some of them are really cuddly, and I think they're pretty awesome. Huh, interesting, nice. How accurate are the movies? Are they really? Really fast? Oh my God. I am just kidding. She's a gamer. She understands you love to run. They do love to run. It's true. All right. Back to the speed questions. If your life was made into a movie, who would you want to play you? I know Elliot page stone that a good one, dinner with anyone Dead or Alive. Who would it be? Oh man, these are so hard. Oh I just always blank on these so your cat. Yeah. Probably my cat. Let us see, my cat from one cat lover to another your best vacation. Hawaii. Yeah, I would love to go to Hawaii. Is that your honeymoon or is that just another? Yeah. Yeah, that was our honeymoon. We actually got We snuck that in just before covid happened. He went to Maui and it was like the food was phenomenal. We did somebody really cool things. There would recommend first place as soon as we can live. Again, we're going to Hawaii. You know what, travel, not live, you're still living. We're kind of living, what kind of liver Living Ash, you got to go up to Sudbury. I think if things are much more open up their window or aisle seat, Window, thank you, beer wine, or liquor wine. Okay. And what color? Red. Oh good. Good choice. You don't do cold refrigerated or room temperature for wine. Yeah, for red wine, or red, one of room temperature. That's the right answer. What I have heard. I asked this question to somebody else, and they said chilled. And I am like, no, that's wrong. Cubes in it. No thanks only way to Shield usually exactly are the dessert wine. Yeah. Yes. The Desert Winds been nice chilled the. Yeah, that's true beer wine, or is already set down early bird or night owl? Both can be someone else for a day. Who would it be? That's super difficult. Like I said, I always blank on these because I am not like super into celebrity culture. No celebrity, it could be a fictional character. Think about roller derby, maybe it's Wonder Woman. Maybe you have already answered it. Xena, Xena, I love the Xena. Yeah, Tanya's favorite Xena. Some, thank you very much Danny. That was a lot of fun chatting with you today. Is there anything you'd like to, you know, shed light on or promote anything like that? You're working on any new projects or anything in general. I mean, I guess, I guess my stream. I have been streaming kind of casually for the last like year and a bit. I mean, a lot of people have I am assuming because of covid, it's just become a lot. More. I would say a lot more popular, maybe a little bit more mainstream because people just like a community to hang out with and feel like they're interacting with other people right now. And I would concur with that because so many of my like even IRL friendships had become sort of like we get into Zoom calls like this, and we play games online, or we just chat and hang out. And so yeah if you like OverWatch, if you like 90s, Younes artwork hedgehogs, or I do tarot readings on Tuesdays? That's always fun. You can trust me scream? Well, I mean I have been you actively taking commission's now and you mentioned that earlier too. I am actually trying not to just because I am doing so many different things. Like I basically work working like seven-hour days and then I come home and I scream for four to five hours. So I am like, all right, it's like we're going to film again. It's like Securities is just normal me. So it's hard for me to take a missions right now? Maybe eventually, if people are cool with me drawing them on stream, that might be a potential two birds with one stone solution. Yeah. So there we go. I mean, you have got, you have already got around 1,200 followers on stream. That's, that's pretty good for something that's just casual. Yeah, it's not bad. I mean I think I had like six hundred a couple months ago so it's Kind of booming right now. It's kind of wild awesome. Do you guys have any other questions for Danny? I have what? I mean, just back to the Letterkenny thing. And I have asked us to, to anyone associated with show. I mean, you have been with it for seven years. I think you said, Seven Seasons. You have been involved, and so I, yeah, yeah. And I mean, I guess it's a two part of a, did you ever expect Letterkenny? Maybe you did to become what it is, and what does it feel to be a part of something that? I mean, you have already Held it up. It's already quickly. Becoming a cult following behind this show. It's expanded in the u.s. Its reach. We have listed as far as Australia, like it is, it is spreading like wildfire because there's so much about the show that people are connecting with the inclusivity of it and loving it. I mean, what does it feel to be a part of something like this? I mean, it feels awesome. Like that's just straight-up. It feels amazing. Like, I definitely didn't expect it to get this big even though like I could see, obviously, how funny it was the value, you know, how great the people are, who make it. It's just, it's just so many things. And like you said, it's just like, it's got something about it. That's, that's so relatable, even though it's absolutely ridiculous. And a lot of other ways, just that small town thing, that people just are like, I understand this, even though they're talking so fast, I have to watch it four or five times to get everything. And it's really cool and I didn't really think I think the real eye-opener was the peppers launch for the actual like real beer and there was a guy who came from. He came from somewhere in like the u.s. I think it was like Ohio he drove all the way to Sudbury. Wow to come to this bar to buy peppers and like what I mean like there was, and I am just like, that's hilarious. Arias, like how, like how it happened. And then, you know, you just kind of notice, it sort of snowball from there and it was just absolutely wild. That's fan ball right there. That brings to mind. Another question I should have because you, you live in Sudbury then and that's where this shows shot are there. And because I made jokes about this early on in previous episodes, are there Letterkenny tours. You can take if you, if you went up to Sudbury or is there like, can you actually go around and see some of the sets or is that Is there anything organized like that or not? You know, know, like, we don't really, we don't really want to advertise where like, things are shot, you know, because we, when we're shooting, were there to work. And, you know, we're really friendly the people who are like us sometimes we're outside, you know, like outside the dollar store people are walking by and like we're typically pretty friendly as long as people are respectful but you know, like we don't want To draw attention to that, because the day we are working, sure. It can be, it can be pretty, pretty challenging to sort of have that balance of like, boundaries with your own fans for things like that. I think, I think largely like, people are pretty respectable, like, they get pretty excited and, and we understand that. But yeah, we do have to be really, really careful about that stuff, right? Because I mean, the, the farm, for example, it is a working farm is the gym a working gym. Is it an actual like, when you guys are in there that people are actually in there, working out? Yep. And I was like pretty straightforward because like, yeah, they just let us use their name, you know, like so if you wanted to find it, I cannot stop you. But right, not tell you where it is, for example, Mo Dean's isn't an actual bar. It's just a set that you guys have, right? That one is actually a bar, but it's not a working bar. I don't think at the moment. I mean, I don't know if any of them are super open at the time, like, we were allowed to leave a lot of stuff there between Seasons sometimes. So I don't think that they're active, right? Interesting. Victor did you have any other questions? No, I just want to really thank you for, you know, coming on and being so open and genuine and It was just a pleasure learning about you and what you're doing and I can't wait to show your art to my daughter because I just think again, it's fabulous. Inspiring and also looking forward to having her listen to this podcast because again, you know, hearing others that have gone through it and are successful. I think it's just so important. Yeah. And Victor was careful not to drop any f-bombs in this one. So he Can you ask that? Because I tend to do that, and I was like, you know what, I am just going to err on the side of caution and not swear, it's okay. We have used all the worst words you can think of them, and I was just, you know, using lesser skilled humor. Yes. Thanks in our weekly reviews. Normally there's there're no holds barred so you can't really judge. Letterkenny without swearing, there's a lot like especially the Getting with the ostrich and stuff. Like there was a lot of crude things happening at that time. So yeah. Yeah. And I mean I figured I wasn't going to offend anybody but you never know what like for sure. What you're putting out as content? Yeah. Well like we appreciate it in that case. I will also get my son to listen and show him that people can have restraint that they want. So we're teaching lessons apparently he does always. Yeah, it's solid. With the learning, right? Well, now, I want Danny back to do a rated R version because I am wondering what kind of potty mouth she will have. It's not too bad. I mean, f bombs are definitely, you know, on the table f****** right there. All right, I am gonna Danny, thank you again, for taking some time and talking to us tonight. It was a lot of fun, and we learned a lot and it's been, it was really great to have you. I hope you had a good time. I had a great time, and they say, thanks for inviting me. I mean, it's I know it's exciting to get actors in here and hearing there is perspective, but it's always really nice to know that people, you know, appreciate the background stuff too. And the stuff that we do because we work really hard to make those little details and its really nice. That people notice so thank you. Yeah, you're well, I mean, it's our pleasure, and we completely appreciate the bed behind the scenes, sometimes more than, than the ACT. I mean the actors do what they do, they're good at what they do, but we know what it is to have, like all the work that goes in behind the scenes for some of these things. So, thank you very much, again, I am going to play ass off here with one of our favorite songs from one of our favorite episodes. This is a married to player get that one and going here on this one of my favorites too. Yeah. Let it marinate for a little bit. All the songs from that episode were more fire. Well, the, the music on this show in general, is just so good and that's all we have for this episode later. This week, we will have our regular thirsty, Thursday episode, where we will recap and review episode for season 4, Letterkenny talent, show. That's not right, we're reviewing episode 1. Season 5, you don't fight it. We don't fight at weddings. That's what we're doing. I didn't update my notes. Apologies there, please write us on iTunes but don't read this one, please. If you like the show, if you'd like to support us become a patron, there's a link to our patreon on our site and Twitter profile at produce 10 pods. We also invite you to visit our website, the produce tan pod.com for episode Recaps, and a list of our favorite episodes. Thank you for joining us. We're now going to play some OverWatch with O w. Grandma Danny where the cheat codes I need to start with 30 lives. Oh God, I want to get back on behalf of Danny Victor, Tania and myself have a good night.
